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Bundabar 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is no legal definition of an "official" elector vote, governor's signature or not.

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Bundabar 1 point ago +1 / -0

No. Pence is supposed to count the official vote but there is no definition of “official”.

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Bundabar 1 point ago +1 / -0

New Deputy AG is light on overall experience in my opinion but is an experienced prosecutor and former military magistrate judge. Tribunals are coming.

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Bundabar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Okay. So after the number one comes two.

There were TWO Supreme Court decision in WI today.

One was “tossed” as you would put it. That ruling does not include the text that this post is based upon and was asking for ballots to be thrown out.

The 2nd, is the GOP case this text is from and was not “tossed” but was ruled in favor of although with no defined action.

Don’t know how to state it any clearer.

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Bundabar 8 points ago +8 / -0

https://www.wicourts.gov/supreme/scopin.jsp?begin_date=12/14/2020&end_date=12/14/2020&SortBy=date

There are two decisions today.

One for a GOP case that made the front-page because its says absentee ballots without photo ID are a no-go.

The other is President Trumps case that got denied relief because it says absentee ballots without photo ID are okay.

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Bundabar 1 point ago +1 / -0

I keep hearing this but any links to the other ruling? Search of the WI supreme court site only shows one.

EDIT: It's not from Trump's lawsuit. https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=315283

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Bundabar 0 points ago +2 / -2

It doesn't say he doesn't count it either, and that's the point.

Stop making stuff up.

Constitution is the supreme law of the land so unless you have a source that usurps that then whatever you want to link is quite simply, opinion.

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Bundabar 1 point ago +2 / -1

Nowhere is it written that he doesn't have the power. Stop making things up.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-2/

"The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted."

He doesn't "preside" over it, he doesn't watch congress count it, The President of the Senate counts it. VP Pence does the counting and there is no law saying one way or the other if he can swap out electors.

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Bundabar 16 points ago +16 / -0

Not all evidence, someone tried to unsuccessfully wipe them on 11/21 too.

The bigger piece that is missing, but is still there for prior elections, are the adjudication logs. Someone intentionally deleted the piece the could 100% confirm the fraud.

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Bundabar 4 points ago +4 / -0

There’s no definitive action. The WI Supreme Court just said that COVID shouldn’t have prevented people from have to follow the law.

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Bundabar 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don't try to force your definition of fraud on him.

Ask him what HE thinks would constitute fraud, then show him that. Then ask him if he'd like to know more citizen.

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Bundabar 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can you point me to where it says the court shall do it for him?

The portion you quoted is widely argued as being the part that gives VP Pence the authority to decided as it doesn't say congress shall count the votes, it says the President of the Senate shall do so in the presence of the legislature.

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Bundabar 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, no they won’t. They only VOTE tomorrow.

The votes aren’t counted until January 6th. No electoral winner until January 6th.

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Bundabar 4 points ago +4 / -0

I started watching his video and abandoned it halfway for a lot of the reasons you cited. Seems a lot was pulled out of thin air but I’m not a “numbers” guy so was waiting for a numberpede to weigh in.

I work in high-level IT and know when I explain things I sometimes make a lot of assumptions about the listeners knowledge and they get lost in the sauce. I was hoping that was what was happening to me here.

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Bundabar 11 points ago +11 / -0

Also since it’s not the business of other states how you run your election, per SCOTUS, do it and dare someone to do something about it.

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Bundabar 19 points ago +20 / -1

“Vote”.... you understand what good that will do right?

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Bundabar 1 point ago +1 / -0

From what I’ve read it’s more complicated than people seem to be posting. If the states have their electoral votes thrown out, then it is majority of the remaining electoral votes. (PA is 20 so if they just got outright barred from sending electors they number to win would be 260 instead of 270).

However, if PA was just told to assign their electors via the legislature then the majority number would remain 270 and we likely won’t know how they vote until January 6th.

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Bundabar 2 points ago +2 / -0

The document you posted says otherwise.

8.1. Known Benefits The known benefits among recipients of the proposed vaccine relative to placebo are: • Reduction in the risk of confirmed COVID-19 occurring at least 7 days after Dose 2 • Reduction in the risk of confirmed COVID-19 after Dose 1 and before Dose 2 • Reduction in the risk of confirmed severe COVID-19 any time after Dose 1

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