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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s irrelevant unless it’s purposeful. Does every protest in D.C. need to be ringed by a special race-based class in order to not be attacked by mobs and cops? Do people from other races get thrown into jails and held without charges?

Because it’s kind of a recurring thing under Democrats.

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

But if you look at it and the others I mentioned as the initiation of action that leads to mass deaths, it’s part of 9 — especially if it’s an irreversible process.

If you genocide a population by burning their harvest, slaughtering their herds, and infecting them with plague just as winter falls, do you have to wait until they are frozen corpses before you count it, or does it happen when you poison the well and light the field on fire?

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

The courts seem to consider rights absolute if a judge Intuits or induces their existence; and aspirational ideals defined by the many tests and exceptions to which they are subjected if they are specifically enumerated in the Bill of rights.

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Chopblock 5 points ago +5 / -0

The ol’ retreat into childish insults response to factual questions — the only weaker response is posting a ‘smirk laugh’ emoji

🤣

/the mark of Facebook

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Chopblock 2 points ago +2 / -0

We’re solidly at 8 and well into 9 with the devastating consequences of the shutdowns and lockdowns, the Vaxx (if it is as deadly as it seems), and the Vaxxpass rollout (a huge social upheaval that will lead to mass deaths if not stopped).

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Chopblock 3 points ago +3 / -0

A DOSE OF REALITY FOR HOPIUM HUFFERS

The Spygate case was chock full of obvious crimes, including real versions of all the fake things they tried to claim about Trump’s “team”. This indictment makes it pretty clear that Durham has approached the whole endeavor with an eye towards only looking at things he can view through a certain narrative construction, and remaining willfully blind to everything else.

It’s the famous Federal Bureaucracy of Matters patented “looking into it” scandal-burying and evidence seize-and-destroy operation, complete with a case on record they can file everything away under, to mark it ”closed”.

You can tell there’s nothing else coming because this indictment is constructed upon a narrative that works to preclude charges against other parties, rather than to expose them. And the legal penalties involved are insignificant, signaling that there is no danger to the other parties involved.

In fact, if you read it carefully you’ll see that rather than implicating the other parties, Durham goes out of his way to ascribe each one of them a justification for each of their actions other than conspiring to rig up a false investigation — essentially creating an official record that authoritatively absolves them of severe criminality. These charges work to cement the fix.

If Sussman is at fault for failing to provide notice of a potential conflict of interest, one can pretend that all the rest of what went on was merely downstream consequences resulting from poor judgements, mistakes, overzealousness, and incompetence by people otherwise acting in good faith, all stemming from a single misapprehension only caused by Sussman’s action.

Durham has spent the duration of his investigation collecting all the evidence and systematically assembling it to trace routes of cause and effect, in order to find some single point at which it all can be blamed on an ‘error’ — and this is it.

He could charge Sussman with the conspiracy to do it, which would open new pathways leading to others, for example. Instead, the charges are framed to self-resolve around a single individual.

It’s almost exactly what Mueller did, too — and Horowitz. On the surface, each issued indictments and recommendations that were pretending to “go after” people for wrongdoings, but the real purpose of each was to conceal crimes by creating an “official” narrative-setting device that can be referenced to redirect culpability away from certain actors by constructing a scenario that omits or ignores key facts and lays the groundwork for presumptive legal defense, investigation dropping, dismissal of charges etc. for those other actors, and to package it together in a format that isn’t directly falsifiable.

And the method behind writing each is the same: Collect all the evidence, construct the least harmful narrative that can’t be disproven using that evidence, and then write it into an official document as though it is fact. Promote it to both sides as though it will benefit their cause in order to get everyone to accept it as unassailable truth, and draw out the process until everyone doesn’t care anymore and chalks up the lack of actual significant results (for either side) as a fault of the system.

The final outcome reflects the ‘original sin’: An assumption of good faith effort by the investigators.

The truth is out there... for anyone who wants to look, plain as day. And the fake news narrative is firmly implanted in NPC minds, too; In about two weeks they’ll be smirking and saying: ‘They DID investigate, and they charged a couple guys for making the smallest mistakes! Why are you blowing it up into some vast conspiracy? Since you’re the one who thinks all our elections are hacked, I’d think you’d want them to look into it, but I guess not when it’s Trump working with the Russians, right? Only when he loses, and then it’s everybody in on a big conspiracy!’

Those trying to argue that’s its “just the beginning” are depending upon pure speculation, falling for the exact same thing Mueller fans did, and for the same reason: they fail to understand the purpose of these actions in the context of a long history of similar examples, and project their own misunderstanding of ‘good faith’ onto the investigators (solely due to hype and suggestion).

The impetus for further indictments would have to come out of Biden’s DOJ, currently staffed with the friends and co-conspirators of the Spygate plot. Not to mention, no D.C. judge OR jury is going to aggressively pursue real justice, as proven by the Sullivan fiasco, the FISA courts, Clinesmith and McCabe’s sentences, the Stone, Manafort, Butina cases, the BLM cases, and the current gulag they are allowing to occur with imprisoned election fraud protestors

Durham cucking out as expected will secure the last gentle sheet-throwing over the furniture to remove any chance of accidentally forcing anyone with an obligation to do something about it from having to see it in any official capacity, because that might cause news dramatic enough to burst the NPC illusions.

Of course, in the Post-Covid Confederacy of Dunces these kind of whiskered soft touches are increasingly unnecessary — the citoyens of idiocracy have shown themselves to be impervious to all but the most painfully evident truths, so long as the TV channels keep blaring out hysterical trash uniformly.

Face it: The plotters buried much of their conspiracy under national security classifications and prevented Trump from getting to it by making him the target of an investigation. Mueller covered up the evidence by holding it under the special counsel (and destroying some), the Inspector General limited his inspection to avoid finding clear guilt, the D.C. courts stalled the discovery process out clear to Election Fraud Day, and Barr head faked that he was looking into it, then wrapped it up under Durham to stall for another year, and now they’re closing it all up with a minor process charge against a single scapegoat.

Nothing new is being revealed that wasn’t known a three years ago, a few RINOs will make some hay grandstanding about it, and some of the news coverage might spark a very few people to doubt the story the press fed them and actually research what happened.

The institutional corruption that became first apparent to many at the start of Spygate has accelerated far beyond that scandal; the rate of institutional collapse has outpaced its rot, and trust in every institution and many core assumptions about our country have failed to such a degree that skepticism of the DOJ almost seems like a quaint relic of a bygone era; events have accelerated to such a level that our society and nation is existentially imperiled, and we stand at the brink of cultural immolation, civil genocide, economic ruin, famine, pestilence, world war, and civilizational extinguishment.

The fight is upon our doorstep.

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Chopblock 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are there other examples from history?

Yeah, during the term of that guy Michelle Obama is hugging in the photo

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Chopblock 9 points ago +10 / -1

Perhaps her doctor knows something we don’t... about her.

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Chopblock 10 points ago +10 / -0

A DOSE OF REALITY FOR HOPIUM HUFFERS

The Spygate case was chock full of obvious crimes, including real versions of all the fake things they tried to claim about Trump’s “team”. This indictment makes it pretty clear that Durham has approached the whole endeavor with an eye towards only looking at things he can view through a certain narrative construction, and remaining willfully blind to everything else.

It’s the famous Federal Bureaucracy of Matters patented “looking into it” scandal-burying and evidence seize-and-destroy operation, complete with a case on record they can file everything away under, to mark it ”closed”.

You can tell there’s nothing else coming because this indictment is constructed upon a narrative that works to preclude charges against other parties, rather than to expose them. And the legal penalties involved are insignificant, signaling that there is no danger to the other parties involved.

In fact, if you read it carefully you’ll see that rather than implicating the other parties, Durham goes out of his way to ascribe each one of them a justification for each of their actions other than conspiring to rig up a false investigation — essentially creating an official record that authoritatively absolves them of severe criminality. These charges work to cement the fix.

If Sussman is at fault for failing to provide notice of a potential conflict of interest, one can pretend that all the rest of what went on was merely downstream consequences resulting from poor judgements, mistakes, overzealousness, and incompetence by people otherwise acting in good faith, all stemming from a single misapprehension only caused by Sussman’s action.

Durham has spent the duration of his investigation collecting all the evidence and systematically assembling it to trace routes of cause and effect, in order to find some single point at which it all can be blamed on an ‘error’ — and this is it.

He could charge Sussman with the conspiracy to do it, which would open new pathways leading to others, for example. Instead, the charges are framed to self-resolve around a single individual.

It’s almost exactly what Mueller did, too — and Horowitz. On the surface, each issued indictments and recommendations that were pretending to “go after” people for wrongdoings, but the real purpose of each was to conceal crimes by creating an “official” narrative-setting device that can be referenced to redirect culpability away from certain actors by constructing a scenario that omits or ignores key facts and lays the groundwork for presumptive legal defense, investigation dropping, dismissal of charges etc. for those other actors, and to package it together in a format that isn’t directly falsifiable.

And the method behind writing each is the same: Collect all the evidence, construct the least harmful narrative that can’t be disproven using that evidence, and then write it into an official document as though it is fact. Promote it to both sides as though it will benefit their cause in order to get everyone to accept it as unassailable truth, and draw out the process until everyone doesn’t care anymore and chalks up the lack of actual significant results (for either side) as a fault of the system.

The final outcome reflects the ‘original sin’: An assumption of good faith effort by the investigators.

The truth is out there... for anyone who wants to look, plain as day. And the fake news narrative is firmly implanted in NPC minds, too; In about two weeks they’ll be smirking and saying: ‘They DID investigate, and they charged a couple guys for making the smallest mistakes! Why are you blowing it up into some vast conspiracy? Since you’re the one who thinks all our elections are hacked, I’d think you’d want them to look into it, but I guess not when it’s Trump working with the Russians, right? Only when he loses, and then it’s everybody in on a big conspiracy!’

Those trying to argue that’s its “just the beginning” are depending upon pure speculation, falling for the exact same thing Mueller fans did, and for the same reason: they fail to understand the purpose of these actions in the context of a long history of similar examples, and project their own misunderstanding of ‘good faith’ onto the investigators (solely due to hype and suggestion).

The impetus for further indictments would have to come out of Biden’s DOJ, currently staffed with the friends and co-conspirators of the Spygate plot. Not to mention, no D.C. judge OR jury is going to aggressively pursue real justice, as proven by the Sullivan fiasco, the FISA courts, Clinesmith and McCabe’s sentences, the Stone, Manafort, Butina cases, the BLM cases, and the current gulag they are allowing to occur with imprisoned election fraud protestors

Durham cucking out as expected will secure the last gentle sheet-throwing over the furniture to remove any chance of accidentally forcing anyone with an obligation to do something about it from having to see it in any official capacity, because that might cause news dramatic enough to burst the NPC illusions.

Of course, in the Post-Covid Confederacy of Dunces these kind of whiskered soft touches are increasingly unnecessary — the citoyens of idiocracy have shown themselves to be impervious to all but the most painfully evident truths, so long as the TV channels keep blaring out hysterical trash uniformly.

Face it: The plotters buried much of their conspiracy under national security classifications and prevented Trump from getting to it by making him the target of an investigation. Mueller covered up the evidence by holding it under the special counsel (and destroying some), the Inspector General limited his inspection to avoid finding clear guilt, the D.C. courts stalled the discovery process out clear to Election Fraud Day, and Barr head faked that he was looking into it, then wrapped it up under Durham to stall for another year, and now they’re closing it all up with a minor process charge against a single scapegoat.

Nothing new is being revealed that wasn’t known a three years ago, a few RINOs will make some hay grandstanding about it, and some of the news coverage might spark a very few people to doubt the story the press fed them and actually research what happened.

The institutional corruption that became first apparent to many at the start of Spygate has accelerated far beyond that scandal; the rate of institutional collapse has outpaced its rot, and trust in every institution and many core assumptions about our country have failed to such a degree that skepticism of the DOJ almost seems like a quaint relic of a bygone era; events have accelerated to such a level that our society and nation is existentially imperiled, and we stand at the brink of cultural immolation, civil genocide, economic ruin, famine, pestilence, world war, and civilizational extinguishment.

The fight is upon our doorstep.

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you should re-examine how the executive branch and judicial branch interact. You might start with some of the arguments surrounding the dropping of the case against Flynn and Judge Sullivan’s refusal to close proceedings.

Basically, the court has no power to order an investigation and no investigations unit to command. All they can do is dismiss the case, make a ruling, or perhaps penalize either sides’ legal team for misconduct.

The impetus for doing so would have to come out of Biden’s DOJ, currently staffed with the friends and co-conspirators of the Spygate plot. Not to mention, no D.C. judge OR jury is going to aggressively pursue real justice, as proven by the Sullivan fiasco, the FISA courts, Clinesmith and McCabe’s sentences, the Stone, Manafort, Butina cases, the BLM cases, and the current gulag they are allowing to occur with imprisoned election fraud protestors.

Face it: The plotters buried much of their conspiracy under national security classifications and prevented Trump from getting to it by making him the target of an investigation. Mueller covered up the evidence by holding it under the special counsel (and destroying some), the Inspector General limited his inspection to avoid finding clear guilt, the D.C. courts stalled the discovery process out clear to Election Fraud Day, and Barr head faked that he was looking into it, then wrapped it up under Durham to stall for another year, and now they’re closing it all up with a minor process charge against a single scapegoat.

Nothing new is being revealed that wasn’t known a three years ago, a few RINOs will make some hay grandstanding about it, and some of the news coverage might spark a very few people to doubt the story the press fed them and actually research what happened.

The institutional corruption that became first apparent to many at the start of Spygate has accelerated far beyond that scandal; the rate of institutional collapse has outpaced its rot, and trust in every institution and many core assumptions about our country have failed to such a degree that skepticism of the DOJ almost seems like a quaint relic of a bygone era; events have accelerated to such a level that our society and nation is existentially imperiled, and we stand at the brink of cultural immolation, civil genocide, economic ruin, famine, pestilence, world war, and civilizational extinguishment.

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Chopblock 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hey there lil’ lady! Got me a filly, name of Clover, brought ‘m up from Sooner country with a load a whisky n’ mail. Saloon boss said y’all folk’ll have sumthin’ fer curin’ worms an whutnot, on account a I got to git along little doggie up the high timber trail, n’ a cowboy w’thout uh horsey set to cry a lonely mountain river, as the injuns say...

‘Sir this is an Arby’s...’

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

What’s funny is that I’m the only person NOT speculating. It’s currently not going anywhere. There’s no indication it will go any further, because this current indictment helps preclude that possibility.

Meanwhile, those trying to argue that’s its “just the beginning” are depending upon pure speculation, falling for the exact same thing Mueller fans did, and for the same reason: they fail to understand the purpose of these actions in the context of a long history of similar examples, and project their own misunderstanding of ‘good faith’ onto the investigator (solely due to hype and suggestion).

The “type of person who said Durham didn’t even exist” was correct in the sense that your conception of who and what he represented existed only in your imagination.

Perhaps if you get a tattoo of his face that will change. Hold a Christmas wish in one hand and a belief that government agents will accomplish good deeds in the other, and wait a few months to see which one the world signals is more likely to come true.

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think my answers are more realistic than your speculation and sarcasm.

The Grand Jury isn’t laying out the charges, they’re simply going to go forward (or not) with this existing weak-sauce indictment— and what’s the penalty, even if he pleads guilty or loses at trial? Suspension of a law license?

I stated that the real evidence is plain as day for anyone who wants to look — but implied criminality isn’t something that’s actually penalized by the legal system, especially in D.C., unless you’re conservative (and even then, the process is the penalty, usually not the sentence).

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Chopblock 3 points ago +3 / -0

CNN: Americans rally under Biden infrastructure proposals

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

They weren’t the exact opposite, really. On the surface, both are pretending to “go after” people for wrongdoings, but the real purpose of each was to conceal crimes by creating an “official” narrative-setting device that can be referenced to redirect culpability away from certain actors by constructing a scenario that omits or ignores key facts and lays the groundwork for presumptive legal defense, investigation dropping, dismissal of charges etc. for those other actors, and to package it together in a format that isn’t directly falsifiable.

And the method behind writing each is the same: Collect all the evidence, construct the least harmful narrative that can’t be disproven using that evidence, and then write it into an official document as though it is fact. Promote it to both sides as though it will benefit their cause in order to get everyone to accept it as unassailable truth, and draw out the process until everyone doesn’t care anymore and chalks up the lack of actual significant results (for either side) as a fault of the system.

The final outcome reflects the ‘original sin’: An assumption of good faith effort by the investigators.

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Chopblock 4 points ago +4 / -0

‘Pedes should fund these guys legal defense

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Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s all there in the indictment. Just compare it to the way the Mueller indictments and the Horowitz report were used, or the way Comey concluded the investigation of Hillary — this is a standard method for burying scandal.

It’s like if them Duke brothers lead the Hazzard cops to raid a garage owned by Boss Hogg that’s running a pimping operation with hookers turning tricks out of the cars... and they go investigate, and then finally charge the pimp a small fine for having unlicensed valets. The fact that they referred to them as “valets” means no other charges are coming.

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