Regardless of the fraud, the number of supposedly intelligent people who have fallen for this is a great disappointment. The vast majority of people are easily influenced by social pressure, appeal to authority, and repetition.
Yeah they seemed to be saying they were pausing vote reporting to rest and presumably sleep, but then we find out they spent the last 4 hours counting votes at 3 AM.
We all knew they were going to try something, but I admit I thought everything was actually on hold until morning.
Yeah it's weird. On one hand it's incredibly hard to believe Trump doesn't have some kind of plan for his happening. He obviously knows about it and it's perhaps the single most important thing that needed to be done for our country. On the other, we haven't really seen anything yet and we let it happen in 2018.
So hopefully that lesson was learned and we have a little more up our sleeves than sitting back and watching as the country is stolen and then trying to win a court battle later.
I'm definitely skeptical of the plan but if it got us even .3% or so of the total vote and that .3% was necessary not to lose the whole country, maybe it was necessary.
The parent comment above yours is deleted so I'm not sure how dumb it was but for now we obviously have other things we need to focus on.
Seems like they all called it a night at 9:30-10:30 PM. Long day, you know, maybe come back tomorrow and we'll have more vote counts for you.
So then everyone else went to sleep at 1 am or so since nothing is happening.
Then between 3-4 AM while everyone is sleeping, they tell us actually they found more votes in just about every swing state and those votes are all about 75% pro biden.
I thought they were all too tired to keep reporting votes at 9:30 PM?
Hopefully, you'd need to choose those intelligence officers carefully or they'll just join them.
It will be nice if we have a bit stronger of a path forward than just going to the courts as the media screams for 2 months about Trump trying to be a dictator.
I do believe you're right, and it's clear he knew this kind of stuff could happen from your speech. But 2018 did happen.
We should not panic, but neither should we assume everything is fine. Panic, no. Outrage, yes.
For the moment, we'll need to at least wait a couple hours to see where things move from here, and what the president has to say about it. We'll see what the proper course of action is when we have a bit more information.
This is why they fit in so well with the Chinese Communist party.
They'll keep a low profile and do the bare minimum to work with you when it's in their own self interest, but as soon as that changes it all goes out the window and they'll forget any promise or agreement they ever made with you. Once they feel they have enough power to do so and think that they no longer need you at all, they won't even pretend to act friendly towards you.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need to provide betfair with your identity info (name, address, phone) and verify it before withdrawing money? Maybe some people do this but it seems like a lot of extra trouble/risks.
It may be far less popular there, but any major sport is still going to have big enough global fanbase that people will be betting on it.
Plus, with the coronovirus lockdowns a lot of people betting sports have probably been desperate to have anything at all to bet on.
I could be wrong but as far as I know betfair has the best liquidity, so it's a pretty good place to check if you just want to see the current betting odds. Bear in mind you can't bet there from the US so it'll be slightly skewed towards Europeans, who usually shortchange Trump by a couple percent. Currently at around 73% Trump win chance.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441
If you want more specific odds like states, predictit is a good place to check (though their site is getting hammered now), though there are a couple of reasons the odds there can be off by a few percent as well ($850 limit I think, so long shots are usually given too high a % chance).
Anything of particular interest to link to?
I know he was saying how all the poll doubters were crazy and the election markets were giving Trump way too much of a chance. His credibility is going to be shot now. He was given a break in 2016 because of the other mainstream media idiots were even worse, but that's not happening this time.
Just watched the Destiny stream for like 30 seconds: two of the people didn't know what state Philadelphia was in, Destiny ten seconds later sheepishly says, "It's Pennsylvania, right?" Then after another 15 seconds of sitting there confused it's off to Google to double check.
(It's about 6h 25m from stream start, doesn't seem to allow me to time stamp a stream.)
These are our brilliant adversaries.
Posted this in the other thread but I think I can explain it:
From the tweets, Biden himself is only doing two events that are like an hour or so away from each other by car/bus. So each event will probably be two dozen cars, about 50 people, and at least half of those people (maybe all?) will be media and staff. He'll probably talk for ten minutes unless he starts struggling and someone bails him out, then after those two events we won't see him again until tomorrow, following Hillary's example. Maybe he'll stay in the basement forever.
I imagine the purpose of the events is not the events themselves, but rather so the media can say "Biden is here in Pennsylvania campaigning on election day." Not so people can actually see the event it is, but just to try to make voters thinks he cares enough about the state to spend election day there. It's actually not a bad strategy I guess, considering the candidate they're working with and the media control they have. It doesn't cost them anything and maybe can get .1-.2% of the vote just by people knowing he's there. They don't need to worry about distracting voters from actually voting because at most a hundred people will be in attendance.
But on another note, who exactly would go to an event featuring "Dr. Biden?" I guess it's going to be exclusively Democrat party donors and insiders, I can't imagine anyone else going.
From the tweets, Biden himself is only doing two events that are like an hour or so away from each other by car/bus. So each event will probably be two dozen cars, about 50 people, and at least half of those people (maybe all?) will be media and staff. He'll probably talk for ten minutes unless he starts struggling and someone bails him out, then after those two events we won't see him again until tomorrow, following Hillary's example. Maybe he'll stay in the basement forever.
I imagine the purpose of the events is not the events themselves, but rather so the media can say "Biden is here in Pennsylvania campaigning on election day." Not so people can actually see the event it is, but just to try to make voters thinks he cares enough about the state to spend election day there. It's actually not a bad strategy I guess, considering the candidate they're working with and the media control they have. It doesn't cost them anything and maybe can get .1-.2% of the vote just by people knowing he's there. They don't need to worry about distracting voters from actually voting because at most a hundred people will be in attendance.
But on another note, who exactly would go to an event featuring "Dr. Biden?" I guess it's going to be exclusively Democrat party donors and insiders, I can't imagine anyone else going.
Biden was always a C grade candidate with great connections. His job was to take in bid cash to flood their depleted coffers so their cashed up to run a young gun candidate in 2024, AND to beat Bernie.
Nah, he really is just the best they had. They had no one else in the primaries in a position to beat Bernie, so he was pretty much their only option. And the crazy thing is, if you actually could stomach watching part of the Democratic convention, Joe Biden actually comes off as one of their best speakers. Everyone else there was just that bad, as improbable as it sounds I think people who wasted an hour or two watching day 1 of the convention would agree. The senile guy talking about his leg hair was much more charismatic than "black people are oppressed empty talking point candidate #28." Those things were so boring and full of empty drivel that even Democrats didn't want to watch their own convention, just like they didn't want to watch the Democratic Party debates.
But the other reason I don't think this is the case is you have to look at their strategy. Their goal is to acquire power to gain more and more power until they can alter the process in a way that they never lose again. Get rid of voter ID, stack the courts, give citizenship to all illegal immigrants, and so on. This year is absolutely critical for them. If they win everything, they will likely never lose again for 50 years, if a republican is allowed to take the presidency it will be a heavily neutered and cooperative RINO. Meanwhile, if they lose, it gives Trump a big chance to dismantle everything they have spent decades working on.
This election is way, way too big for them to pass up and just try again in 2-4 years. Another billion or two in the bank doesn't make up for the fact that they could lose everything if they fail right now. So I know it may seem crazy, but Joe Biden is their real candidate. He's not a throwaway. They sent their best, and this was all they had to offer.
Yeah they may be incompetent sometimes, but they've got enough influence that we're still locked down 6 months later for a pandemic that kills less than 1/1000 people, while the lockdown itself almost certainly does more health damage than it saves.
Yet here we are.
We can't assume either victory or defeat.
Look no further than all the faggots on here preaching that Kenosha Kyle should have just stayed at home, and that he should be held accountable for “being somewhere he shouldn’t have been.”
Pretty much no one on here is saying this.
One thing I didn't think of before -
We assume all the fake polls are to influence the people, to try to convince them that everyone thinks Trump is doing badly so it must be true.
But what if one of the main purposes of the polls is actually to convince all of the politicians, media hacks, and everyone else associated in some ways with the major political parties - not to jump ship? If they were convinced everything was over for them, some would start taking actions to throw other people under the bus and protect themselves. Many of them have information they wouldn't want to get out, or even if it's nothing specific they know a lot of the lies and dirty methods that are used to play the game, manipulate the media narrative, etc.
They need all of the insiders to believe the lies as well or everything might collapse.
Maybe the most devious kind of concern troll is the concern troll who concern trolls about concern trolling.
Not that some aren't legitimate supporters, but the "OMG guys don't doom and gloom" might be more present than actual doom and gloom. People here are pissed off, but they aren't giving up. Being worried about what's happening is not the same as accepting your fate. It's what you do in the situation that matters.