I'm with you on almost all of this.
I'm still confused about the nature of the Q psyop - i don't think it's possible to be certain about what it is at this point, maybe it never will be. But it got me looking at things I wouldn't have looked at otherwise, and I just had a really interesting chat with a friend where I think my awareness of Q probably helped direct her away from where the MSM was telling her to look, and towards actual issues, and what is and isn't certain - issues such as child sex-trafficking, pedophilia, MSM propoganda, uniparty etc.
Maybe the most important thing we can do is take a deep breath, sit with God, ask him what he wants us to learn from all of this - today he's been teaching me about patience and kindness... lessons i need to learn.
I'm encouraged that many of my conversations seem to end up with people wanting to talk about Jesus... It think its because in a sea of uncertainty, Jesus is a certain, and people see that, and it makes them curious... Follow Jesus is the only thing I'm certain of in this uncertain world...
This is the conclusion I have drawn, and it keeps bugging me. He was either in on it - in which case he's either a seriously evil fer totally up for manipulating people for his own ends, or he's playing a really deep game to try and undo some serious evil in the world. Or he's duped, in which case someone else is a seriously evil Fer. All 3 scenarios point clearly to the presence of at least one seriously evil F***er.
Trying to judge it by the fruit it bears... It's made me more aware of my biases and less trusting of media, which I think is a good thing. But it's also created both a sense of hopelessness around ever knowing what to trust, at the same time as keeping me hooked on the whole show in the vague hope that there really are things going on behind the scenes.
Testimonies such as that by Anneke Lucas have convinced me that there are people out there doing things I wouldn't have dreamed of. I want to believe that those kids aren't out there without any hope of anyone ever helping them... I'm well aware that that is almost totally wishful thinking...
In some ways I hope someone does try to push this through - for my skeptical and super rational husband this would be the flag that tells him the conspiracy people are not nutters. I think it's really important that we establish the idea that the moment government or business start threatening some denial of service to those who haven't been vaccinated is the moment that totalitarianism is unequivocally present - WHATEVER the justification behind it - and that any such actions must therefore be resisted - even if one was previously inclined to comply. This is the point at which the sacrifice of resisting is as important as the sacrifice of taking a vaccine to protect others (which is some people's motivation for taking it, and I'm not saying they're misguided).
As ever we have to balance competing evils, and it is often the evil of control/abuse of power that goes undetected until it is too late... I think it is super important that we don't allow the Overton Window to be moved on forced vaccinations. Vaccinations should be processes that people undertake willingly because they are personally convinced of their efficacy and safety - diffferent individuals will require different levels of evidence according to their temperment and experience and it is likely that government will try to shame and censor people instead of doing the necessary work of addressing genuine concerns.
As someone living in the UK I'm confused - are you implying the UK will deny entry to anyone who isn't vaccinated? If this is so, please point me to relevant info as I need to check it out pronto!
And on another note, if you can, maybe just be quiet with your daughter and wait and see how it turns about - I was very left for a long time and my parents and I quite violently disagreed on things during that period. We had some distance for some years, and I disparaged them a lot behind their backs (although not openly to their faces although there were a few heated conversations). But we never burnt any bridges, and now as I have gained a different perspective we are once again close.
Damn right. It's because we are here on the ground with our kids and we know that all the good intentions (being kind here) in the world don't mean anything if they cause your kids to make life choices that are going to lead to more suffering in the long term.
The thing that really gets me is the idea that it's nothing but a matter of personal desire as to who you partner with and how you raise your kids - that is has no long-term consequences for you or your society. To create and sustain a stable family life is one of the most important and challenging tasks any person faces and its just so arrogant to think that there will be no consequences to undermining the traditional family. I am not "anti" anything - I treat everyone with care and respect and would stick up for anyone I saw being treated unfairly or with cruelty or malice whatever their race, creed, beliefs, lifestyle... but that does not mean that all choices are equal or that lifestyle choices don't have consequences that go far beyond your own personal considerations.
It's sad that I know even writing this puts me beyond the pale in the eyes of many I know and love.
I think the way to respond to that is to say "What do you mean by Tyranny?" and not in a combative way, but with a spirit of curiosity. Only in getting someone to precisely define what they mean by Tyranny and how they believe Trump to represent that Tyranny is there any hope of them seeing the issues with their argument and for a crack to begin to appear. This is usually a drawn-out process but it begins with a seed...
We have to strengthen ourselves to fully understand and empathise with the thinking that produced this report because only from this perspective can we start to see the objective errors that it contains in a way that gets beyond our emotional response to it. This way of thinking has been carefully and methodically constructed over the last 70 years, and it is not going to be unpicked easily or by responding from a place of intense frustration (and for me, some significant level of overwhelm/fear). It is designed to slowly consolidate the idea that collectivism and control by "Experts" and "Elites" and "Right-think" is good. The only way to get someone to see the error in that is to keep encouraging them to think more deeply about where that path is taking them...
me too - there should be NO DOUBT at all about the results of ANY race - absolutely everything should be transparent, with any citizen having the right to pick over every aspect of the process to their heart's content, whatever party they vote for. I really believe that the best way forward with this is going to be a grass roots movement that demands transparent election monitoring right down to the precinct level.
Our communities and societies have changed without recognition over the last century, the bonds of trust are very different today than they once were, and we need systems that create confidence more than ever. If we don't have that, we have nothing.
All for that - the only way to bring people around that I know of is to be better informed than they are, and to kepp asking them - in a non-threatening way - to explain their ideas in ever more detail. Sooner or later they hit the uh oh moment where they see the road that they're travelling down...
So like a way of amalgamating it all into one place? I can see that's useful...I reckon the vast majority here realise the full extent of the issue so it's not so much a case of bringing awareness, but figuring out how to action it...
I was thinking about that this morning and wondering if the number of republicans still trying to address the issues of integrity and properly represent the actual inconvenient wishes of the people is actually reflecting the ratio of normies in the world at large... And then thinking that so long as we see it gradually shift, we know that more people are getting some awareness on what we're all ACTUALLY talking about, as opposed to what the media wants people to think we're talking about. That would mean that an important strategy is to keep up the pressure on each representative so they don't think we've given up (not that I can count myself in this exactly as I'm a Brit) and to make relentless attempts to get proper reform into the voting system processes at the county and state level. Showing them that MAGA is and always was about far more than just Trump, he was just the person who lit the flame...
It's not that I don't like it - it's that I'm inundated by the shit storm that we're in everywhere and I was really appreciating the relief of being around those who had moved past the "can you believe this is happening" outrage and were onto the "what are we going to do about it stage". More of a morale thing personally - I know it's not good for me to overwhelmed with the negative stuff as it saps my personal determination but that's just me... I do love the memes, the dark humour is like fresh air after that aspect of the conversation having been censored and suppressed for so many years, it's the non-humorous stuff that I was getting overwhelmed by and just felt like I'd seen a shift since it moved from the TheDonald to Patriots.
Its my husband, and the only way to bring any kind of shift will be to be well-informed and show him how the issue has been manipulated. I'm not very informed on the issue as I don't have the time to get past the propaganda and figure out what is actually known and what is actually being pushed for other reasons...
The thing they are really reacting against, and the thing that is really making them so angry, is that they can see you are resisting the control. But they don't understand that is what is making them so angry - they haven't thought it through to the point of realising that the thing they are really advocating for is one group deciding what another should think and do, and don't see the inevitable end point of it - it's the underlying pathology of socialist thinking, and it is as addictive and convincing as hell when you're in the middle of it. It's the most insidious of vices because it disguises itself as virtue. It is not seeking truth or equality or any of the things it professes to seek, it is seeking power.
Kekmanchoo, I am really sorry to hear this - I imagine that it is really distressing, and also lonely. The really hard thing is that most people who are caught up in it are longing for the same thing we all are, which is opportunity and flourishing for those we care about... The problem is that there has been such a profound conditioning of thought that they no longer see a way forward that doesn't involve demonising particular groups of people and seeking to control the thoughts and speech of others. Honestly I think the way through it is to keep praying for them - for discernment and blessings and all good things. The whole point of the Marxist movement is to make those who will not fall into line hateful and immoral and to make us hate each other. I believe we need to stand our ground firmly but lovingly against the tyranny. If you contine to hold love in your heart for your former friends - even if you can't associate with them right now - the poison will not eat you from the inside out.
If you do still engage with them in some way, something that you might try is, with a spirit of curiosity, to start getting them to lay out the details of just what it is that they are actually advocating for. What criteria do they want to be used when hiring people? Who do they want to take money from to give to others? How much should be taken? Is anyone exempt? Have you read any of Thomas Sowell's books?
Ah i thought I was famous for a moment...