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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +2 / -1

I gave this some thought. Instead of simply sending illegal immigrants home immediately, give them a one week class on basic civil infrastructure and how to operate as part of a guerrilla warfare cell, and THEN send them home.

If they come back again, arrest them and give them more training on how to make their own country better, and send them home again.

That way we are helping them. If we start teaching illegals how to resist the gangs and awful governments in their home country, and also how to rebuild basic infrastructure, I think the immigration system would start fixing itself.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you know how the electoral college works? Nevermind, you already proved you don't with your response to my last statement.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

What 11 million illegal aliens? Yale proved there were 20-30 million.

Most of them live in deep blue cities and states that Democrats won't lose unless God himself takes a direct hand.

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Farmerbob1 5 points ago +17 / -12

No. Most illegals are here because they want to work and make money here, not sell drugs and kill people like the drug cartels.

Don't get me wrong, there are violent people in the illegal population. A fair number of them, but most of them have done nothing worse than cross the border and work illegally in states and cities that have encouraged them to come here.

Send them home, sure. Put them in jails and humane camps, feel free. But the instant you start rounding up illegals and beating them or killing them? That's when people like me, who support the rule of law, will suddenly become your enemy.

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Farmerbob1 2 points ago +2 / -0

If they do pass it, then we just need to arrange with our local police to schedule them to pull us over.

"Officer, if you come to the corner of x and y, there will be a bunch of white guys driving around with dark bottles in paper bags. You might want to be sure we're all drinking root beer."

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

First, convince the middle-of-the road voters that the 2020 election was actually stolen. Remember the leftist base cannot win elections alone.

Second, a very large number of Democrats are not leftists and actually have some respect for the rule of law. If the Democrats are even MORE blatant about stealing elections in future elections, their party will melt away from the inside.

Our job? Make it clear and obvious to the nation that something truly fucky happened in the last election.

It's not time to kill people or give up yet. We still have options. If we were truly to the point where we had no peaceful way forward, the media giants and Democrats would not be trying their hardest to hide what happened in the 2020 elections.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why do you think the media giants are suppressing our memes, articles, and peaceful protests?

Because they know they are not in a position to hold power if the conservatives manage to convince the undecideds and middle-of-the-road voters that something truly fucky happened in the 2020 election.

Killing people or accepting tyranny are not the only two options open to us - at least for a while longer.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +3 / -2

We can still win elections. We can also work in polls and attempt to make enough noise where conservative lawmakers will work harder to try and implement national voter ID, etc.

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Farmerbob1 3 points ago +4 / -1

Good point, I missed that nuance in the post I replied to.

We are not 'controlled opposition' we are 'peaceful opposition.'

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Farmerbob1 4 points ago +9 / -5

While the 2020 election was proof of widespread election fraud to anyone with a brain, we have not gotten to the point of armed rebellion. IMHO.

There are still possible solutions open to us that do not include insurrection or civil war.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

You know, if they are waiting for sane people to stop being angry about the Democrats stealing the 2020 election, those troops won't be going away.

And that will make us angrier.

Wonder if anyone has really thought this through.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am Agnostic. Out of all the sorts of people who you might have discussions about religion with, Agnostics are going to be the rational ones. Atheists and religious folks both have beliefs that cannot be proven, IMHO.

So. What point were you trying to make?

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

They also share kids. My mother used to prepare taxes, and she had to turn some people away because two mothers would bring all their kids and both mothers would try and claim all the kids.

Fortunately she worked at a tax agency who understood this, so all she needed to do was document why she turned them away and they never gave her a hard time about it, though on several occasions the mothers would storm off and talk to the office manager.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Practically every religion on Earth has a dark history. Most of them predate what a modern person would consider civilization.

I'm talking about now.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

The problem with the concept of "doing it the way it was always done" is that with modern medicine, our parents and grandparents can live decades past when they would have passed away even a few decades ago.

One of the consequences of advanced medical care is that elder care can becomes a decades-long commitment. Not just Grandpa and Grandma living with you a couple years and then passing away after they can no longer live alone.

I do understand where you are coming from, but I do not agree that letting the elderly relatives live with you for decades is a good idea. A nursing home or elder community lets them live with others of their generation, and you SHOULD go visit them regularly.

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Farmerbob1 10 points ago +11 / -1

Any religion that justifies murdering innocents simply because they do not follow their religion is not acceptable in a civilized world.

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Farmerbob1 6 points ago +6 / -0

Aye. Smells like bullshit to me. 2300 years ago, if you made someone with political power mad enough to want to depersonalize you, they would simply have you killed.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Huh. Completely off topic here, but dude does not look like a typical Olympic-class runner. He's carrying a good bit of shoulder and arm muscle mass. Makes his accomplishments even more impressive if he didn't hyper-specialize his body for sprinting.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Voting is only a joke if we don't fix the problem.

Until 2020, voter fraud was not taken seriously by most of us.

Now we know better.

The only way to change things is to try, and it's not time to use violence. Yet.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I believe quite a few states tried to send competing electors, but were prevented from doing so by shady means.

It would have been better to create a Constitutional Crisis than allow the theft of the 2020 election.

If the election really hadn't been stolen, the Democrats would be all over themselves trying to get in good with Conservatives by helping to fix the laws and conditions that allowed the theft.

However, Democrats recognize they will need those loopholes and theft tactics for at least a few more elections before they can utterly destroy the economy, remove our rights, and establish the dystopic state they want.

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is not a violation of the Constitution to have Congress to decide a contested election.

Pence only had the authority to send the decision making process to Congress, not make the decision himself.

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