YES - if you're referring to those traitors who came out with crocodile tears using this as an excuse to ignore OUR OBJECTIONS to the electoral college.

They needed blood to prompt the histrionics they had practiced in the mirror.

We gave them no blood. So they drew it.

Why order 600 Million vaccines when your data shows only about 200 million are even considering it.

yes, this.

But the whole headline sounds like an internal democrat agenda note.

interesting - are you saying that the [Ashli is fake] narrative is being planted by leftists?

as in disinformation?

very true. They were hoping for bloodshed all day. No police or EMT presence for the vast rally area or the march. A pathetic defense at the capitol. They have admitted to having intel that dangerous people were going to be infiltrating the rally. Rumors of people being armed.

These people KNOW how to provide public safety. Therefor they KNOW how to promote public disasters.

Here is my opinion: They were hoping violence would break out and people would start killing each other - so that the mighty State could come to the "rescue". They would have used tons of force and blamed Trump for all of it.

I have been sharing many on this thread. Also started the debate with logical arguments. keep searching, you'll find them.

edit - just gotta love that you started with a direct question and then thought you'd use the 'last word' dig.

I wish it weren't true but the State has a long record of leveraging innocent death for some hidden objective.

face it nobody has empirical evidence. That's why we have to use reason and logic and all the best sources of raw data that we can access.

Your assertion amounts to - you saw a video where someone said something you agreed with. Fine. But do you have a logical reason to believe what you are saying?

right. I agree with you. I was just adding to your point about excessive force.

of course deadly force in this situation was extremely excessive.

OK... that's why I asked. Well to your point; "excessive force" is actually defined.

When you carry a lethal weapon for the government you are required to have RULES of engagement and RULES of the use of Lethal force.

This is why I am calling this murder. The MSM has taken up the narrative that this was a justified use of force (there's a first for everything I guess).

But if they were authorized this level of force then that should actually be documented somewhere. Speaking from experience, I can add that failing to use force when such a threat was going on would be considered serious dereliction. So why did other police allow the continued entrance into these areas?

And finally, why was there NO ATTEMPT TO ARREST. There were several other police standing right behind her.

sarcasm. I will not be using the /s punctuation so you'll have to put a little effort in.

well you've stated that someone produced a video so they could express their "opinion" and that video was 'enough proof" for you. So I would just ask that you stop parroting propaganda here.

SaveAmerica2021 1 point 36 minutes ago +2 / -1 Bullshit pal, you made your mind up and that is that. so be it...dont pretend like you are being objective.

I don't know who 'they' is. But I would ask - if 'they' can stage a murder in the US Capitol. Can't 'they' create whatever 'legal' proof you are seeking?

You're not an EMT I'm guessing.

The point is, sometimes the human body doesn't explode blood everywhere like you think it should when injured.

Most of my confidence in this fact is from my own personal injuries. But I have also seen some nasty ones on others.

I watched the videos. None of the camera operators were trying to steadily document forensic evidence for skeptics like you.

I love that more and more people are searching for the truth. But let me caution you, discerning the truth is a long arduous and humbling process. You can't feelz your way to it. This is an information war. There are evil extremes hiding behind every man-made ideology. And therefor, there are also lies coming from every direction.

I'm just asking you to be much more careful about the narratives that you get comfortable repeating.

I think you have to try making a positive argument for what you think happened. Because you're failing to challenge what we are saying.

You do understand that the State has no problem with the death of innocents, don't you?

I guess I'm not making my point clear to you. If you think the event was staged then why would you believe a picture of a fake document or a staged funeral?

Besides the video that someone made, do you have any evidence that the simplest explanation should be dismissed?

EXACTLY.

They were desperate to start a bloody war that day and Trump Supporters NEVER took the bait. I witnessed people STOPPING others from getting caught up in that.

So the State was forced to take the first shot. And we STILL refused to dishonor America.

They killed her thinking it would be buried in dozens or hundreds of other deaths.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that. Are you saying maybe she was shot but did not die?

I don't understand the logic behind these two statements:

The vastly witnessed shooting and killing of a protester was completely staged.

But I would believe it if I saw a death cert or funeral

are those impossible to fake?

well said. It's like people don't even try the Socratic method.

WHY - is an important question.

When I assert something as truth, I'm prepared to defend it.

I just made a new post. I don't think this post is the best place to debate this.

ok - if you're already doing that thing where you barely understand the reasoning of someone else's point so you simply strawman it and move on... well you're not going to get it. I'm talking to people who don't mind thinking critically about it.