Credit my parents... but I grew up knowing that doing something that is permanent, whether taking vows, or having a child or even getting a tattoo - if it's permanent you better be damn certain you're not just being obedient to social pressure. If you're considering the Vax, please give my parent's wisdom (which they got from the Bible) some serious consideration.

No judgements though, we all damage our flesh one way or another.

...

Until 2021. [In the U.S.]

• federal "rescue" money to farmers except for one race.
• vaccination preference excluding only one skin color. (Not that I care)
• prosecution of law: lawlessness violence and mayhem from "people of color" is ignored and excused. But the true protesting of certain people is called a racist mob and they hunted down.
• certain people are held to impossible standards by the institutions that facilitate speech.

But if I'm being honest ... it's still not "racism" - it's just the fully expressed hatred that the elite has for free people. They like us mired in nonsense called "racism" while they carry out their plan to enslave or dispose of us.

No fear though. God wins.

If your opponent ghosts you or changes the subject, that's a win.

• granting that you didn't disqualify yourself already in you last response.
• I'd say, give them 72 hours ghosting.
• subject change gets a challenge, if they don't get back on topic - win.

/s <- that is sarcasm training wheels.

Plot is about human trafficking and Chinese money laundering. Shipping people on a cargo ship. The ship runs aground. The refugees paid 35K a head. Then someone says the smugglers made 14 Million. (Oddly familiar figure) Someone asks where they come up with that kind of scratch. They don't; they have to work it off. Captain Murtaugh goes full libtard and starts harboring "refugees" because he's "freeing the slaves, like nobody did for his people". So he takes a family home.

Then there's an odd scene where the refugee guy (who almost looks more chimichanga than eggrole 😉) is watching an old black and white documentary about Mao! It kind of sounds sympathetic to Mao.

Chris Rock and Danny Glover throw in constant racial crap. And Joe Pesci reminds us "they're fucking us with the cell phones".

Watching old movies is trippy.

... Naw - he's probably causing red‐pill whiplash.

political parties, media, government, church, NGOs, science, employers, civil rights movements, law enforcement agencies, unions, science experts, clergy, educational institutions, public health organizations, judges, co-workers, medicine, technology, elections ...

• Ok, I just discovered I started the endless list. Please, if one came to your mind that I didn't list - Add it.

They just learned how to spot swamp creatures and recognize how they operate. Then they see the same creatures and activities going on in the 'church world'?

Let's be honest, many in the church see them too. Come to think of it, if the swamp is running your church, time to leave. Not saying to judge the flock or any individual. "There is only one who can save and destroy: who are we?" But doesn't it seem to be a good time to be more cautious about the 'house' we've grown accustomed to?

So James gave us some advice about religion.

NKJV ****James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

I don't know if that's his actual title but he's legit. Teaching at a university, masters degree from a disease lab.

I'm sharing this just in case someone else find themselves in a similar matchup.

No idea if it will help even in my case.

Here's some boring peer reviewed stuff that I would guess you agree with.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

I've done this homework before but I kind of revisited it to share my thoughts about this kind of material.

The irony of referencing the "Manchurian" plague is actually quite interesting - from deep in the rabbit hole.

It would seem that if I respect science literature, then my own silly ideas about mask wearing can be dismissed because these published scientists say "We recommend that mask use requirements are implemented by governments, or, when governments do not, by organizations that provide public-facing services." These science lords would also like to see mandatory vaccinations too. Why waste our time with all these fake elections when scientists have computer models to dictate how we live?

These same scientists say this "Cochrane (7) and the World Health Organization (8) both point out that, for population health measures, we should not generally expect to be able to find controlled trials, due to logistical and ethical reasons, and should therefore instead seek a wider evidence base." and "Only one observational study has directly analyzed the impact of mask use in the community on COVID-19 transmission. " (sponsored by W.H.O. not checking the credible box with me.) plus "None of the studies looked specifically at cloth masks" A good scientist recently told me "Science is a process". It seems sometimes the process is too challenging, but that doesn't stop scientists from publishing massively consequential peer reviewed articles in top journals.

Ok so it sounds like they are not going to produce any data that would allow my common sense to reach a natural conclusion. Time to cast a "wide" net and pull together whatever data points can be arranged to lead to endorsing government mandates. Weird how they have "ethical" concerns and "logistical" problems with conducting the science process but no trouble suggesting tyranny via the government. Maybe banning bush-meat is just too culturally insensitive?[unlocking zoonotic originating viral outbreaks] But forcing Americans to permanently adopt mask wearing and vaccinations is just fine? I'm not saying that people should not be allowed to harvest bush-meat. I'm just noting how tyrants think.

Recognizing that the science isn't very convincing these scientists have advice on how to manipulate people with symbolism. (seriously, this is in the linked article "An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19") Creating New Symbolism around Wearing a Mask.

Ritual and solidarity are important in human societies and can combine with visible signals to shape new societal behaviors (119, 120). Universal mask wearing could serve as a visible signal and reminder of the pandemic. Signaling participation in health behaviors by wearing a mask as well as visible enforcement can increase compliance with public mask wearing, but also other important preventative behaviors (121). Historically, epidemics are a time of fear, confusion, and helplessness (122, 123). Mask wearing, and even mask making or distribution, can provide feelings of empowerment and self-efficacy (124). Health is a form of public good in that everyone else’s health behaviors improve the health odds of everyone else (125, 126). This can make masks symbols of altruism and solidarity (127). Viewing masks as a social practice, governed by sociocultural norms, instead of a medical intervention, has also been proposed to enhance longer-term uptake (128).

Let's just say, I agree that mask wearing is symbolic. I just have a much different opinion about what it symbolizes.

To answer the question : "Is mask wearing a necessary part of the conquering of Covid19?" The peer reviewed article from PNAS failed to answer that with data. Oh sure the scientists writing it, no doubt with a lot of W.H.O. support, are certainly married to their ideas and willing to watch people arrested and punished for non-compliance. But there are some severely insensitive cultural impacts (as in loss of freedom and body-autonomy) so you would hope the data backs up such demands.

https://rationalground.com/mask-charts/

The charts on that link are not peer reviewed science. That is just analytics. Come to think of it, while I don't have any degrees, I have been a support analyst for Emergency Call Handling for 15 years, specializing in Analytics(SQL) and GIS/mapping. I don't know how many times I've had to argue and prove that the data don't lie, people do (misinterpret it).

I haven't scrutinized the source data, I haven't even studied these charts for very long but it is plain to see that mask "mandates" don't seem to result in anything that would encourage or support further mandates. (The Sweden trend line is provided as comparison - I think better analysis would include several other non-masked regions of similar population densities.)

I think I've covered a lot here. But wouldn't you agree that there is plenty of information to consider beyond the hallowed halls of peer reviewed journals? Especially when we're considering a world of exchanging freedoms and body-autonomy for some notion of public health and security. One of the most heartbreaking data points to think about is the increase of suicide across all demografics, most alarmingly in younger ages, that we can directly attribute to covid response.

Love you man. I hope you're enjoying this debate.**

I disagree with one thing you said. We DO know that Ashli Babbit was murdered without any justification. In fact, in this situation the State owes us a very detailed and precise justification and until there is one provided we can rationally assume that it was NOT justified given all we do know plus the video. Maybe this sounds like I'm assuming guilt without due process. But I'm accusing the State. Think about it, does the State get due process? What happens when the State simply declares it is justified and declines due process (like a stolen election)? ... What I'm getting at is - there is NO presumption of innocence given to the State. - So the appropriate action of the State is to charge the officer of murder and then give that officer due process. They don't want to do this because that will expose the murderer in the shooter's ear.

If this was justified then they would be able to show the documented rules of use of lethal force, then show how the victim's actions justified pulling the trigger.

Edit: I posted before asking for a debate with the "Ashli is Fake" crowd. If that's you and you want to debate please use that post. The point of this post is a little advanced for you.

A few days ago I had an idea. I think this whole community needs to take the lead in our families and friends. Show them what Independence Day looks like.

I've stopped engaging with a lot of the family because all they seem to be talking about is covid safety and compliance.

Working from home, all conversations with coworkers are clinical and business oriented. We never have a happy hour out. We never gather at someone's house.

Some of my liberal friends who I haven't been able to red-pill are practically strangers now.

I want to gather everyone at my house and let them know there will be no social distancing, no masks, no BS, don't even tell me if you got poked. I want them to come party at their own risk - just like always before!

We're going to celebrate our freedom that comes from God! And dare them not to show up.

That was the most powerful red pill. I don't use "foul" language. Not really my style. But I've never seen a more F-word inducing speech.

PEDO Biden, just told America that the people's freedom is suspended until such time that elite lords are satisfied with our level of obedience.

This child-rapist thinks (or at least mouths the words to suggest) that we must obey his decrees or else we are to blame when the covid hoax takes a downturn.

This absolute shit of a person said we might be able to have a BBQ on 4th of July with a small group of friends if we do our part and get vaccinated and continue to wear masks and pretend science is just whatever faucci says.

THIS IS WAR!

this administration leaves America no choice but to remove him and his whole fckng cabal by any means possible. At this point I hope it's maximum pain for these demonic bastards.

Sounds crazy to do it so soon, but I'm imagining from their perspective ... Why not?

There is nothing more they need or want from his withering carcass. They did all of the rhetorical ground work already. Joe even said he wanted a VP who would be ready to take over on day one... Something like that.

Another time he said he might just get sick of some disease and have to hand it over. Just paraphrasing.

So they can flop him out there and have him ready a simple fluffy resignation speech. Then the media will lavish praise and shift the narrative to the historic rise of Kamala.

... But more likely it'll just be more invented words and racist blunders.

I get the super straight point. It's an effective meme too. But I thought making your identity all about what kind of genitals you want to interact with was more of a clown‐world thing. ... I guess I'm just hoping y'all get it out of your system soon, or take it to some other place because saving America just seems a little more important to me.

I think of it this way, if you feel like you have to tell people your sexual orientation, then maybe you're a little unsure about it yourself.