As they should be because Lin Wood is fucking nuts.
We had a solid case, without Kraken. Kraken stole the show, and fucked us. Some people like Robert Barnes called out Powell and Wood and got lots of hate for it.
Absolutely. Robert Barnes fucking called it. We have factual provable evidence. We have witnesses. We have solid proof of impossible statistical anomalies.
Then out of left field, "Kraken" steals the show, and Lin Wood gathers shit tons of attention on twitter.
I hated that Robert Barnes was right, but I acknowledge truth. We had solid cases, but instead the courts only really opened up the Lin Wood / Powell cases because those were easy to throw out, while ignoring the Trump-team cases.
No, absolutely not. What Giuliani was pursing actually is factual. This is the proble mwith the Q-anon crap. People who fell for Q-anon are suddenly thinking that all the stuff that wasn't associated wiht Q-anon is also false.
The election absolutely was stolen. We absolutely have evidence. I fucking found evidence myself on election night with just me and an internet connection.
This is why I've been so pissed at the Q types and trying to encourage people to not follow them.
When did Trump or Giuliani say that?
Trump did not. He was never going to lead a 2nd civil war or anything of the sort. People like Lin Wood hyping up Trump as that kind of figure are why some people think Trump is letting them down, when from the perspective of someone who doesn't believe the Q nonsense, Trump didn't let us down, he just didn't have any choice.
That's not to say Trump is perfect, he made plenty of mistakes, but people who bought into the Q-stuff let themselves down.
I think he's just crazy and has no filter.
Trump is going to make 10k arrests after he's out of office.
What should we do? Well, I Can tell you it's absolutely NOT what the Q-types were doing. All followers of Q-types did was spread misinformation and hopium .... and then a few of them fucked us over when they raided the capital.
But onto what we can do is be stratetic, creative, innovative, take initiative, opportunistic, plan ahead, and take action. Not everyone should do the same thing. Some should run for office. Others start podcasts, or political-watch-got organizations. Others track the RINOs and their backstabbing, so they can be evicted in 2-4 years. Others pursuing election integrity. Others be whistle-blowers. Others can help fund efforts like project-veritas. Some can start websites, alt-tech, or new businesses.
Keep in mind there are at LEAST 75 million of us, and we outnumber them. If they had to steal a few million votes, that's not because they've won. It's because they're desperate and evil.
Not true. Robert Barnes called it. He called out ACB being a weak pick. He called out Pence for not having the fortitude to do the right thing, and instead acting based on political calculation. I didn't want him to be right, but he was.
Exactly. Even in the last week, most of my posts critical of Q-larps were getting about 50% downvotes.
I gave him several chances, and I'm not one to assist our enemy in attacking our allies.
The dude is fucking nuts though. There's a reason all his former partners are suing him for being abusive. He thrives on attention. He has no filter, and will promote any conspiracy theory without investigating it.
I've heard he thinks he might be the 2nd coming of Jesus, which I'm treating as unverified in the same way I treat Lin Wood's nonsense as unverified, but it does match his behavior.
The #1 thing I am frustrated by though is I feel he sucked other people into his trap. Sidney Powell. Michael Flynn. As MAGA we need to be skeptical of "our side." Not paranoid, not attacking each-other, but it's important we check our own facts.
For example:
- The election absolutely was stolen, likely millions of votes. However the "kraken" stuff distracted the entire legal process from EXTREMELY SOLID EVIDENCE of mass election fraud.
- The Q-anons who participated in the capital raid were tricked into participating in a false-flag attack, which hurt MAGA severely. I'd even bet that whole thing was orchestrated by the FBI or DNC.
- "Trust the plan" means don't do jack shit. Don't protest. Don't demand Barr is fired. Don't question injustice. Don't investigate. Hype yourself on hopium!
- Remember all the nonsense about Bill Barr laying traps? Bill Barr spent his entire time downing buckets of KFC and backstabbing Trump.
A lot of us called out Lin Wood when it became blatantly obvious he was unreliable, and his crazy started to come out more and more, and we were all shut down. Yeah, I'm a litlte annoyed, but I'm all about winning, and just hope everyone wakes the fuck up so we can start being realistic, and actually start working on strategies and tactics that address the world the way it actually is.
For example, we're not going to win any elections, unless we start LOCAL processes to fight election fraud. We need people LOCALLY calling out LOCAL judges that are corrupt and spreading the word. We need to stop waiting for results, and start trying to make results happen ourselves. Be strategic, creative, innovative, opportunistic, and (of course) realistic.
I hate to say it, but Trump did far more to expose the swamp for what it is and who is part of it, but made many mistakes in not draining he swamp, and in trusting various swamp creatures. It's time we fight in the real world, and not in fantasy land.
I realized hat, and have been pushing people (Especially the Q-types) to realize that we can't sit back and "trust the plan." We have to get out there and actually do shit. What that is will be different for each of us. I'm working on a tech-platform. Other people will need to run for office. Other people will need to be whistle-blowers.
The #1 thing that hurt MAGA is we lack our own "infrastructure" and if we spend the next 2 years building that, we can start defeating RINOs. The whole reason we lost the election-contests was because we didn't root out the RINOs, or get people into LOCAL offices.
We still have Trump. For example, if Trump does something like launch a media-org, it's possible he could cripple Fox, cripple Biden (ok, he's practically crippled), cripple Big-Tech, and accomplish different things than he could in government.
Remember there are at least 75-million of us, and if you agree the election was a fraud, probably much more. We're the MAJORITY. Fuck being silent. In fact, I'd say wee were silenced, not silent. Fuck using platforms that silence us. Fuck Google ,Twitter, Amazon, Reddit, and Facebook.
If I have any advice, it's to be STRATEGIC. Learn from our mistakes. Learn from how we got fucked over. Be opportunistic, clever, innovative, and thoughtful. If you're not sure what to do, support those who lead the way.
Abbott is pretty okay. Not perfect, but he even went hard after Austin when they tried to defund their police. There weren't even many BLM protesters downtown or anything.
Apparently, he's also pushing for making Texas a 2A sanctuary state.
What evidence are we waiting for from Rudy?
I know Lin Wood hasn't delivered and a few others.
It's almost like it's a disinformation campaign designed to undermine, distract, and confuse Trump supporters.
I only ask that if there are no significant arrests by the morning of January 21st morning, that you introspect and re-evaluate. None of the "lack of arrests were part of the plan." No shifting goal post.
False-flag attacks by the deep state don't count, even the non-Q people are predicting that's possible, perhaps likely with all the security theater.
we all are fucked beyond belief...
Yeah, shit is fucked up. It's not all doom though. Maybe if we could redirect some of this Q-enthusiasm to other efforts, like launching free speech platforms, be a whistle-blower, launch political watchdog organizations, etc we might stand a chance.
Keep in mind there are at least 75 million of us, probably MANY more. Even if they have the seats of power, they're vastly outnumbered. It's time for MAGA individuals to start being strategic, opportunistic, clever, work-smart, etc. Obviously, we need to be a little more tactical than just running to the poll-booths in 4 years & owning libs on Twatter and CommieBook.
I started on a secret project MONTHS before the election, knowing it wouldn't be ready in time, and also knowing we'd need it regardless of how the election turned out. And now I'm months ahead of where I would have been had I started today. The best time to start is yesterday of course, but failing you haven't started pursuing something the next best time to start is today.
If you want another 30 hours to see how things play out, fine, I'll gladly rejoice if I'm wrong too. However, if it doesn't happen, be honest with yourself.
Obviously, there is one or more people behind Q. Everyone knows that. They have some kind of military experience, which is again really obvious.
However, if this was another psyop, or disinformation campaign, then isn't it also logical that such a disinformation campaign might have military experience?
Just because people couldnt understand the Q drops for 50 times, doesnt mean they are wrong, it means we dont have enough info to decode them.
Do you understand the logical fallacies you're pushing? There is NO scenario whereby you'll ever admit (to yourself) that you're wrong. Even when you're wrong, there's always one or more excuses.
All this "arrests tomorrow" and "Bill Barr running sting operations" shit gets all the Q people always get super hyped, it doesn't happen, which was part of the plan, which leads to the next "it's happening" LARP, which ... gets all the Q people always get super hyped, it doesn't happen, which was part of the plan, which leads to the next "it's happening" LARP, which ... gets all the Q people always get super hyped, it doesn't happen, which was part of the plan, which leads to the next "it's happening" LARP, which ... gets all the Q people always get super hyped, it doesn't happen, which was part of the plan, which leads to the next "it's happening" LARP, which ...
Only you can escape your own mental loop.
just because they didnt deliver doesnt mean it wasnt part of their plan.
Just listen to yourself. How deep are you willing to dig that rabbit hole. 3.9 years into Biden's presidency, are you still going to believe in this plan?
You have backed yourself into a logical fallacy, where no matter what happens, you're always right. If something happens, it's proof Q is right, and if something doesn't happen it's also proof Q is right.
Like I said, I'm not shitting on Trump. I'm not suggesting I could do better. I personally don't know enough about the political landscape in washington to know who is or isn't a swamp creature, without spending far more time cataloguing that stuff.
Pointing out these things is important because there are underlying lessons contained. For example: What if MAGA had one or more organizations (more is better, less corruptible) which tracked stuff like who is consistent MAGA, who votes for bloated spending, etc?
If I was to run for office (which is unlikely) my FIRST pick for an advisor would be someone like Robert Barnes. He often says stuff I don't want to be true, or stuff I disagree with, but then weeks or months later is PROVEN correct. Knowing who you can trust, properly vetting them, and then letting them delegate is important to running any kind of organization under such hostile pressure.
I acknowledge that without 2020 hindsight, I too would have probably made many of the same mistakes as Trump. If Trump spent the next 4 years finding people he could trust and won the next election, he could probably absolutely trash the swamp.
I'm as pissed off as anyone else here about the shit that happened, but also acknowledge realism in that we can acknowledge mistakes and become stronger from them.
Anyone "boycotting" pillows, was already statically unlikely to ever have bought a pillow from them anyway.
It's like me boycotting a restaurant in SanFransico, even though I've never been to SanFransisco.
I'm not the same person you responded to, but I think you absolutely can point out mistakes someone made, without crapping on them. A lot of us who point out Trump's various bad decisions (and good decisions) Are doing so because we WANT to be more effective.
For example, years ago I made an app and everyone seemed excited about it. However, when I put it up for sale, I didn't even earn 1-months worth of rent during it's lifetime. Sometimes the truth can be hard to swallow, but I would have been better off having that truth, and doing something else instead.
Someone should do a detailed analysis of the mistakes Trump made while in office. Not as an attack piece, but rather to understand what kind of nonsense, attacks, and undermining any future populists (even Trump, if he runs again) is likely to face, how to spot them, how to prevent them, what to do instead, etc.
Hindsight is 20-20, but we can learn from hindsight. I have no doubt that with a few small changes, things would have turned out MUCH differently. It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant to support someone like Rand Paul, despite being a libertarian. He's a good person, but too weak, fooled by the media, and would get rail-roaded.
A few things that come to mind are:
- Have your own uncensorable communications outlets.
- If the deep-state likes an appointment, run the other way.
- Find loyalists and do your own "background checks" well before entering office.
- Support candidates you ACTUALLY believe in, and not whoever the RNC asks you to back.
There's no a chance in hell I would have done better than Trump, so nobody take any of this the wrong way, but there's a LOT we can learn from what went right, and what went wrong.
Throwing insults at someone, but not addressing their statement is VERY unhelpful.
I'm willing to acknowledge my assessment could be wrong, and I've been wrong before, However, just calling people retarded doesn't help.
....such as the LARPers who kept spreading "Bill Barr is laying traps" and "Arrests tomorrow" nonsense.
Exactly. Powell's stuff was part true, part false. Since Lin Wood is very susceptible to misinformation, it was easy for leftists to feed him nonsense and throw that case into conspiritard land.
Rudy's cases were solid. Affidavits. Video evidence. Statistical impossibilities. Verified instances of fraud.
Does everyone remember when the Trump legal team clarified that Powell wasn't part of the Trump legal team? There was a damn good reason for that.
What's so dangerous about Q-nonsense, is we now have even our own supporters questioning whether there was election fraud, because all they know about is the Q-nonsense, and not the real evidence.