The interview with the Tech contractor in Detroit gave an example of what may have happened and why it might be important:

What is easier? Filling in tens of thousands of ballots with a 'Joe' dot, or simply filling in perhaps 50 or 100 at a time... and re-scanning those things again and again and again through the tabulator?

(Assuming in any way these are similar systems).

If it were my state it might be suspicious if the two marks from the election judges aren't on the ballot, etc. Such a ballot would have scanned correctly but it's not a legitimate ballot without the 2 election judges/workers signing it.

I'm less concerned about supposed backdoor glitches - I think the system, as advertised how it works, is just very shitty and irresponsible.

One of the good things about this is it shows how stupid this process is.

Basically you have people who can't run a copy machine in charge of our future.

It's not about software. All of you obsessed about software and backdoors are chasing your tails.

It's about people LITERALLY stuffing ballots into the tabulator and looking the other way.

That is how things are done.

She would have called one of the 99.999999999999999999999999999% rank and file who would have dismissed it.

That's like some crazy shit you read about in a history book from the 1890s or 1910s. What's old is new again and I'm a fan.

I think a big thing this aligns with is that report that someone was attributing ballots of people to people in the book just willy nilly.

Sort of a stupid question, Chris. Certified by who? Independent of what?

Dead voters on registration != Dead voters who cast a ballot.

Database may not be able to do what you expect.

That will be a nice thing to put in his garage in a month.

This is fucking stupid. Because if you're in the hospital for COVID right now you might have milder symptoms. This isn't old ass people on ventilators (which was actually the wrong treatment).

That's probably the easiest way to run up the counts, if it works like that. That will get you tens of thousands and 100,000 votes quickly.

I'm...surprised the machine would even allow this.

Each ballot should have unique ID.

OR the tabulator should also have a marking function that marks every time the vote is run through the tabulator.

Well... not all of them.

Police find no evidence of planted evidence.

Why in the fuck would these use USB?

They SHOULD use a serial cable. Yes, that's right, a serial cable.

RJ-45 ethernet cable? No. Have it connect using a RJ-11 cable with some sort of weird ass modem emulation.

Anyone taking a look at these machines should go 'WTF?'

All connections on these things should not be widely available in the consumer space (IE: old) and should be proprietary where possible. The thing that programs your key fob in your car probably has more security than this.

It's very likely, however, that there is a 'legitimate' get out the vote operation run by these groups.

And then, very conveniently, piggy-back operations that are not legitimate. Individual workers at these operations may take it upon themselves to do what is described. Perhaps with a wink and a nod.

But you're using 'evidence' based on what the TV showed you - you don't know what those changes meant. You don't even understand how those numbers show up on the TV and how they were connected.

Any network that advertises mobility scooter social security scams, reverse mortgages, exorbitant life insurance, and silly gold coins does not take you seriously. They reveal what they think of you by the kinds of advertisers they attract.

The thing the networks are using to know what number to put on the graphics on screen is NOT the same machine that counts or tabulates votes. Numbers get looked up by literal people in a room and they have to update a number which the networks then use. It's not a data feed.

Okay so follow along.

The machines tabulate in the canvassing area/precinct. That number gets reported to some apparatus in the state's Secretary of State office or election commission. That number, in return, is fed to or looked up by some data sharing service (Edison?) the media uses. That number is then used to generate the chyrons on screen.

Seeing numbers change on your TV screen chyron isn't an indication that votes have changed as far as the Secretary of State or board of elections is concerned. It could be an error at the data sharing service level. Like someone fucked up and misclicked. Every state probably has their own format so it's likely manual and cumbersome as fuck. A game of telephone told with copy and paste and spreadsheets.

The fluctuations you see are mistakes being fixed... in the thing that tells the TV networks the count.

I'm not convinced this has any connection to fluctuations happening in the actual tabulation. The Sec of State's count never fluctuated or switched.

Audit what?

What you see on the screen isn't some direct feed to the actual vote counting machine.

I really don't understand this.

The numbers networks report aren't actually the numbers. They are given those from a data provider (Edison) who is getting those from the election boards. If there's an issue of data entry or mistake entering this into the vote tabulations for Edison...that has nothing to do with what each state's board of elections/secretary of state will certify. Votes weren't lost or switched - data was being updated and corrected.

I just think you're looking in the wrong spot. The thing that generates the graphics on TV isn't the thing of record.

Or am I wrong? I just don't think this is looking at the right spot.

Edit: OK, the more I think on this... this post is fucking stupid. I'm sorry. Subpar, guys. This really shouldn't be stickied.

You never know what you're going to find on TD.win

Paying income tax isn't the same thing as voter registration or eligibility.

I mean, this stuff is confirmable. It's also possible to issue subpoenas and court orders. Depositions under oath.

"Did this happen? What happened on the inside? Oh, nothing?"

Security cameras. Cameras from down the street. Cell phone videos of the GOP people getting kicked out.

You don't think they didn't have text messages going back and forth? "Hey, what door do I go to?" etc.

Maybe they used burner phones.

Well... they probably used a credit card.

Maybe they used cash.