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HoganP 9 points ago +10 / -1

They're just that stupid and they, federal employees in particular but state and local aren't far behind, are the most entitled collection of assholes in modern society. They don't just think that they'll get away with it forever (why wouldn't they?) but they also think it's owed to them.

Every penny of every paycheck and benefit they receive was confiscated from a taxpayer, the silver platter keeps getting bigger, and they genuinely think they are entitled to it.

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HoganP 11 points ago +11 / -0

The republican party orchestrated deposing it's own president against the will of its voters. The sooner that sinks in, the sooner the next logical steps can happen.

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HoganP 5 points ago +5 / -0

Honestly, it warms me cockles knowing there's at least some politics involved in the wide view, intended or not.

A lot of people never understood why wall street was so overwhelmingly Never-Trump and donated so heavily to democrats and RINOs during his term. They're predominantly in New York and the tri-state area and a bunch of rich liberals are still liberals, for one. Another is that Trump stabilized the stock market with an upward trajectory in a growth economy. All of this is great for small business, most big business, and average investors. Great for the country. It's really bad for hedge funds. They need volitility in the markets and they weren't paying lobbyists in DC because they just didn't like Trump.

So, basically, a bunch of nerds on reddit are hitting a bunch of rich charlatans who funded democrats and RINOs against Trump for 4 years in the shorts and it's great to see.

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HoganP 4 points ago +4 / -0

Gotta suck it up and rip the band-aid off at some point. Probably will be painful but it has to be done.

The GOP has been given every opportunity to reform and it has shown time and again that it cares about its voters and the country only as far as the DC corruption allows. We, effectively, have a choice between the democrat agenda in a deluge or the democrat agenda in a slow creep. What you mention is precisely the carrot they dangle from the stick. "We suck but don't suck as much as the other party" isn't a platform that any civic-minded person should indulge on any level and we have all done exactly that for far too long.

This is before you even consider everything they did to Trump and MAGA from the first to last moment of his candidacy and presidency. Actually, that's a gross understatement considering they are openly working to impeach him post-office. It's beyond ridiculous for them to expect support from anyone but the donors they clearly work for.

If you want there to be a United States that even resembles what was founded here for future generations, this simply cannot continue. The Republican party is irreparably broken and must go.

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HoganP 6 points ago +6 / -0

Small-L libertarian and can confirm. Forgetting about issues, it's just not a serious party on any level.

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HoganP 8 points ago +8 / -0

You can see it in everything they say and do. They have a big fat legitimacy problem, they know it, and they know absolutely everybody else knows it, too.

As pissed off as I've been since election day at the sheer audacity of it all, here we are where the rubber meets the road and I find this all fascinating to watch more than anything.

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HoganP 2 points ago +2 / -0

Be refreshing if they were. Eastern Europeans have a tendency towards being based AF.

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HoganP 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm the same. Not dooming, necessarily, but overturning election fraud is exceedingly hard to do, for good reason, and that's been most of it for me as that whole shitshow played out. But there's a bunch of unprecedented crazy shit going on and it's an objective fact that Trump is still president, ostensibly running all of this.

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HoganP 2 points ago +2 / -0

But you'll waste your time and energy whining online.

Sound like a winner.

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HoganP 1 point ago +1 / -0

What about them? They are statewide elections. My state always elects republican senators but they tend to be RINOs. There's no fraud but that doesn't get fixed by not voting.

Nothing gets fixed by not voting.

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HoganP 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's your problem, then. President is the least consequential office with a great deal of what government does. One of those things being running elections.

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HoganP 1 point ago +1 / -0

They fixed the elections in about a dozen counties in 6 states to steal a presidential election. There are 3000 counties in the country and 400+ congressional districts. There's only one office that's elected nationally and besides that, what happens in one county doesn't really affect any other except in statewide elections and when they share congressional districts. The offices that are decided locally have a bigger impact on securing elections than president.

We are all pissed about this election, but a lot of you guys need to get some perspective.

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HoganP 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean, isn't that like polling if people think water is wet?

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HoganP 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think a lot of normies do, actually. They completely jumped the shark with the first one...Can't even think of an appropriate metaphor for this. They rushed it, had no hearings, don't have any evidence at all and, to cap it off, got in there and oversold it like mad with the thinnest of talking points. Even for the lowest information people who don't even see all of that, the glaring reality is that they are impeaching a president that has a week left in office which makes no sense.

Honestly, I think that's the wrong question...More like is there anyone besides people that just hate Trump no matter what that thinks this is anything other than a dishonest ploy?

Besides, if this was supposed to piss us off, I'm not really sure that's worked either. This is so patently absurd that most people are just laughing about it.

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HoganP 5 points ago +6 / -1

I know, it's crazy. I don't do conspiracy theories but I'll entertain the questions if there's reality behind them. It's an absolute fact that there are like 15,000 troops in DC right now with another 5000 coming in the next week. That's just nuts and I'd love to know what's up.

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HoganP 13 points ago +13 / -0

Why would you launch a coup on an outgoing administration? I'm not a Q guy, either, and "the plan" is super far fetched, too.

Regardless, 1000 troops would be security. 6000 is a statement. 20,000 is what you invade countries with and that's what we are looking at.

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HoganP 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not about "The System." It's about which part.

There are 3000 counties in this country...3000 individual voting systems that operate under 50 different sets of state laws. About a dozen of those were subject to targeted fraud to throw a presidential election. Presidential elections operate under an electorial college system which makes this possible. All other elections do not. It's the results of those elections that, ultimately, made the fraud possible. It's the results of those elections that made preventing and rectifying it post-election impossible. We need MAGA candidates in those seats as well as congress.

This is entirely fixable. If you think it's going to be easy, you're going to have a bad time. If you think or ever thought that just electing a president is or was going to fix it, you're going to have the bad time we are all having now. But it is fixable. We just have to stop whining about it and get to work. Anyone who makes the excuse "the system doesn't work" for not participating and thinks that means anything real is the zombie.

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HoganP 2 points ago +4 / -2

Bullshit.

There were anywhere from half to a million people there. About 50 were violent. Just because "98%" of the crowd were Trumpers doesn't mean those 50 were. Just because people are pissed off doesn't mean they were violent.

I watched the footage closely. None of these people dressed or acted like anyone I've ever seen at a Trump rally. They looked like antifa and their police harassment tactics were EXACTLY what we saw the trained agitators doing all summer. This was not a pissed off mob lashing out organically. It's very easy to see in their movements that they were trained and coordinated. We have no reason to own up to this because it wasn't us. Not that we would need to own up to it, anyway, unless we were there and one of the 50 violent participants.

People "pissed off" enough to assault the police and trespass don't do that with the end goal of standing around in hallways taking selfies jerking off with their soy-faced buddies.

You're glowing. Are you a member of law enforcement, any government agency, or any political NGO?

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