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IWanttotalknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Um… Yeah. Because that’s essentially what they are. Herbert Marcuse’s “Repressive Tolerance” is all about this, he thought the Nazi’s had the wrong idea but they had the right way of going about making change to society (i.e: raging grievance politics + identity politics).

It’s not like he hasn’t written as much, at length. He was anti-capitalist like crazy, Communist, but “no, no, not like Stalin, that’s bad Communism” types. Basically, he wanted to use grievance politics + identity + revolution, but instead of Nazism, he wanted his own thing… you might have heard of it: Critical Theory. Lots of people have heavily imbibed Critical Theory for years now, let alone the people who were doing it decades ago.

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

For those who aren't certain what's what with the whole Critical Race Theory thing, or needs a video they can provide to normies, etc. that is very accessible and James does some great work here.

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IWanttotalknow 3 points ago +6 / -3

You’re completely correct - yet not correct at the same time. For the most part however, today (and honestly, the last 10 years especially, but steadily since the late 60s/early 70s) what you are dealing with is a near totally corrupted left.

Specifically, what you’re dealing with is Herbert Marcuse’s “Repressive Tolerance” theory. It’s the backbone of Critical Race Theory, Social Justice, etc. I suggest going to NewDiscourses.com or looking up James Lindsay but I’ll give you the gist:

It attempts to overthrow all opposition based on ludicrous propositions and covers them with “We’re fighting oppression.” That’s it. The opposition in this case is Western society, or more specifically post-Enlightenment society. How do you do that? You claim ALL of it is bad. Every little bit. You’ll notice Critical Race Theorists (Robin DiAngelo, Ibram X. Kendi, etc) do not engage in debate basically ever. CRT, again based on Marcuse’s Repressive Tolerance, has actual rules as crazy as they are, and one of those rules is “Don’t engage with oppressors.” Even speaking to someone in debate is generally considered a taboo rule to break for them - from their point of view, it’s like trying to have a polite debate with Hitler while he’s slaughtering Jews. Only problem is they apply this to everyone who is not them.

They consider modern society to be every bit as oppressive as Nazi Germany - which is why they’re constantly calling everyone Nazis. And some people eat it up - it’s in the government, it’s in the schools, it’s woven into our media and even culture to a degree. But the fact is, actual Critical Race Theorists, by definition, are authoritarian - they want to rip down society, they don’t (or didn’t) have any power for a looooooong time (this strain has been going on since the 90s). They can’t just overthrow things, not enough people, not enough positions of power, no military, etc. So they lie, and they lie all day every day and repeat their lies non stop.

It’s been particularly effective in America, because it basically took root because of the good nature of people + a huge lack of meaning. People want to meaning, and they can now fight for the “oppressed”, without realizing the “oppressed” are basically Nazis of a different stripe. It’s telling, because Marcuse’s own theory states that right up until the moment Hitler took power in Nazi Germany, even .1 seconds before that time, the Nazis were “oppressed”.

Of course, the Left says that’s not what Marcuse said, but you can read his own works for yourself, or rely on James Lindsay - who just yesterday was giving testimony in a New Hampshire representatives meeting about supporting a bill banning CRT in NH if memory serves - and had one of the representatives call him anti-Semitic and that the SPLC hates him. Did a great job too. :)

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IWanttotalknow -2 points ago +7 / -9

Idk who you are, but I'm betting you could do that in under 10 minutes if you had the materials. Christ, did you have no childhood or something to consider that as even a possibility? People have silly fun, especially small, little people of a younger age. It's called being a child.

Could be other things, but damn, don't rule it out.

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IWanttotalknow 15 points ago +22 / -7

I'm not so sure this is bad as y'all think - have any of you been a child before? Christ, I can easily imagine "Haha, this is dumb, if I post this online, so many people will laugh or get angry."

Kid's probably mocking it, and it deserves mockery of that level. On the other hand, it's nuts that it even got to the point where this could be a thing to be mocked. No gulags yet!

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ridicule as the socially accepted reaction to the illegitimate regime is exactly the right answer. The truth is a lot easier to swallow if it comes wrapped in a good joke. It's also a take on Solzhenitsyn's "Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me."

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

To be fair, it's not like the vote mattered this time. Boy is that dude gonna be pissed when he votes differently in the future, and it's still the same thing. I can't even begin to imagine that they'll do vote integrity laws.

You know it's bad when Canada dunked on you for how bad your voting system is. Yeah, yeah, Americans don't care... which is why they have a voting system that's accessible online, and has Secretary's of State overriding State Legislators, and all the rest. It's really not that hard to count things by hand one night a year.

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IWanttotalknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

How could it cost anything? I thought we just print the money we need now, so really, nothing costs anything. Sure hope this doesn't have any unexpected outcomes that no one could possibly predict from the myriad of historical examples of Why That Is A Bad Idea

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IWanttotalknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, Biden removed it, as well as an Executive Order to have the federal Critical Race Theory ban undone as well.

For those of you who aren't familiar with what Critical Race Theory is, please check out James Lindsay's work (Sokal Squared hoax, recently put out the book Cynical Theories with Helen Pluckrose). Essentially, when you hear "Critical Race Theory", think "Nazism, but they call it equality." The ideology is very, very, very similar to Nazi rhetoric. This link has a good essay on the subject: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/

As is often the case, based Yuri Bezmenov has wisdom on this as well:

Education. Distract them from learning something which is constructive, pragmatic, efficient. Instead of mathematics, physics, foreign languages, chemistry, teach them history of urban warfare, natural foods, home economy, your sexuality, anything as long as it takes you away.

This was damn near prescient on his part. It didn't exactly take that shape, but close enough. And, from the same lecture of his is this gem:

Are people born equal? Is there any mentioning in the Bible or any other holy scripture in any religion, any religion — if you don’t believe me, go to the library and check it — there is not a single word about equality. Just the opposite. By your deeds, God will judge you. What you do is important, the merit of your personality. You cannot legislate equality.

And if you can get me, someone who was default "left good, right bad" to start quoting a guy, and understanding what he's saying when he talks about religion, there's still plenty of hope :)

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don’t really use Reddit anymore. Basically never used Facebook. Never used Instagram. Never used Tiktok. Twitter I used to follow news / politics / niche interests / hobbies.

Gab seems much better (though I kinda like Parler as well, but both allow for longer conversation), but I’m not going to “get off” Twitter for a week or two. Gab has been mostly stabilized from my time using it over the past ten days or so, but people aren’t quite there yet. I’ll see someone post ten times on Twitter in a day, but there will be 0-2 posts on Gab. As long as I can get my news there and not have it be like 3-5 days after the fact, that’s when I’m good.

Already have a good list of people to follow for my own interests, going out of my way to comment and like things to help stuff grow, because it’s the least I can do, only takes a little bit of time. I really hope Gab goes all out, get Gab TV up to 1080p instead of 720, get live-streaming instead of just hosting, etc. Probably sign up for the Pro User thing if I get enough utility out of it.

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IWanttotalknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's scary how true that is. Some part of me think it's just the decades of lack of morality and education that got it to this point. Or the culture.

The funniest thing for me, as just a normal person who isn't insane, is that I can swap language to speak to the left or right. And the thing I notice? The left refuses or cannot understand how a right-wing person thinks. If you don't want to dump a hundred million dollars of tax payer money into any program, no matter how obviously retarded, corrupt or whatever it is they will not hear that. They will hear "You hate the people that project is for, you just say you don't. You're all bigots and liars". It's like some kind of insane brainwashing. I imagine it's what living in China is like.

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's far, far, far worse than that.

Imagine it's 2008, and you're a transgender person. No one's talking about shit, you know something's off with you, and you go to get the best help possible from doctors. Life's not that bad, it's still difficult, but no one's really paying any attention to you, it's just a problem some people have and need help with, not crazy, not radical, none of that.

Fast forward 7-8 years, and suddenly everyone associates you with complete and utter lunatics, radicals, radical communists, and ideological insanity and now, even though you take no part in it, hate it... everyone tags you as one of "them", despite sharing almost nothing in common with them.

This is what Yuri Bezmenov was referring to when he talked about not letting certain groups get into power - because they are easily corruptible to an insane degree, easy to take over. Most trans people (not the shit you see "I hate being a man, no dysphoria, #Resist #EatLandlordsAlive, you're a bigot if you don't want to have sex with me.) just shut up and hope they don't get tagged with it.

Like the dude in Captain America said, the German scientist - everyone forgets, the first think the Nazis took over was the German people. Commies work the same, they take over in areas where no one will fight back, then claim power on their behalf. Yeah, I'll probably get downvoted for this, but whatever.

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IWanttotalknow 13 points ago +13 / -0

You have to stop and think 'How on earth did the left convince people that the guy who made Dominos commercials in the 90s, McDonalds commercials, did practical jokes.... into Hitler. Literally."

Then you realize how thoroughly uneducated and lacking in any basic knowledge the average 40 year old is, and you start to understand how.

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IWanttotalknow 3 points ago +3 / -0

They don't view it as genocidal. They don't recognize propaganda at all. They just think "If we can just get rid of those non-human beings we share a country with." and it never crosses their mind that that specific level of hate is probably most well known as coming from Nazi Germany.

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IWanttotalknow 5 points ago +5 / -0

Not sure. It's not point for point exactly identical to Nazism. It is much closer to Communism, but with even more extremism. Basically, it's a different abomination of a political ideology, but it's still, y'know, abomination.

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IWanttotalknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's how you know they're propagandized. They won't answer a question. "How can you have a coup if you're still in power?" is just a question. He could've responded with "I meant specifically that blah, blah, blah." The goal was polarization, so people DO NOT have those conversations. People actually do change their opinions when presented with new or more accurate information - they do not want us doing that, thus the polarizing tactics never end.

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IWanttotalknow 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is a shockingly salient point. If you want to fight meme magic, how do you do that? Turning them into LARPs would do it :)

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IWanttotalknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is potentially literally what is happening. Academic Agent has a video on this, it's interesting history and an interesting point of view, but I think a lot more other things happened too - but one of them is denazification coming back to bite people int he ass.

https://youtu.be/niiF8hCSrYQ - "What Yuri didn't tell you"

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IWanttotalknow 15 points ago +15 / -0

What makes this more amazing is George Washington. Read the biographies. The guy was fully aware of his situation, and how he would need to act, set precedent, etc... And did it. There's a reason everyone wanted him to be the first President.

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

For the life of me, I cannot understand why Trump didn't nickname him "Uncle Joe". Just like, y'know, when the US tried to get Americans to like the last "Uncle Joe", you know, Joseph Stalin. They're pretty similar. Should've labeled every one who voted for him as a Stalinist, and not been shy about it. But I guess connecting him to China is almost as good.

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

To be fair, she's not a Democrat as much as she's a brownshirt. Literally. She's a brownshirt. It's just harder by the day to tell apart a Democrat and a brownshirt.

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IWanttotalknow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Simple: Your government cares about themselves, does not care about it's citizens. It's more concerned with having more people they can use to vote for them, to give low-wage labor to corporations, and the more people they can control, the better they feel. They don't know what the meaning of "That doesn't work" or "No" means.

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IWanttotalknow 5 points ago +5 / -0

I live in Canada. We line up at the clinics 2-4 hours before they open, every day of the week, for decades.

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IWanttotalknow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lots are. Lots of "office jobs" are essentially "you're a call center worker for life, in some regard." Low paying, an insane amount of rules to memorize by heart (can't be looking stuff up too much when they're pressuring you to answer more calls), being monitored for your bathroom time, etc.. It's not a good "career", even if you bump up in the ranks to other roles. And for me, I don't want to come to the end of my life and go "well, thank god I spent 1,794 days of my life running spreadsheets, the past few hundred are way more than enough."

So if you offer me a lower status job, like Uber, that pays 1000-1500$ per month more, I'm going to take it lol. Means I get to wake up, drive for a few hours, hit the gym, sauna, have lunch with a friend, drive a few more hours, come home. More control over my schedule, time off exists when I need it, etc etc etc. I'll take that over staring at a screen and spreadsheets all day, or getting shit on by 25% of the customers I talk to.

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