Reasoning and logic yes.
Statistics don’t lie, liars use statistics.
Do you honestly think the amount of B on W murders are for no reason ? Cold blooded murder is extremely rare.
While murder isn’t right and they should be punished with life. I don’t agree with the actions murders take but most of them have a reason that they see as ‘just’ it isn’t just 99.9% of the time but if individuals don’t put themselves in bad situations like being associated with drugs and dangerous individuals you probably are not going to end up being murdered by a black man.
I still can’t agree you can paint any group of people the same.
People are a product of there circumstance, that does not excuse there behaviour but it can allow you to understand why things are the way they are.
If you where born black improvised in a gang addled community with no education your only option for the survival is the streets.
Thank god for trump allowing school choice and hopefully through there education and personal choices will be able to make a change in there lives so they don’t have to follow in the footsteps of those who did heinous crimes.
It’s 2:30 in aus if you’d like to continue this discussion tommorow please do, even though I am whole heartedly disagree with the way you put shit and a lot of your opinions I can see you care for you daughter more than anything and you fear for her safety so I know you’re alright man, anyway god bless you and your daughter and your family stay safe out there fren.
Immigrate !! America needs more people who stand for America !!
Thankyou for the tip.
Believe me I’ve read your entire reply 5 times and I’m not trying to not answer all of your questions I’m just a slow typer so I’m going to try to get to the heart of the question.
Yeah dude I know that there are radicals and people who are secret radicals but I also believe that there are good people in there just it’s not as a many as we’d hope even if only as little as 1% where truly good that’s still reason enough to not paint a brush. The best anology I can think of is the death sentence for rapists say you support the death penalty and there are 100 people on death row and 1 is truly innocent is it justifiable to kill all of them ? That spiel goes for both muslims and Jews of the congregation.
Even in Pakistan there are polls of are suicide bombing justifiable and similar questions even there in the most radicalised nations a few percent 1-2% believe it’s not justifiable so how can you say every single sect is corrupt sure the high imams or whatever there called of these sects promote the most radicalised beliefs but not every local Imam belives in killing christians although I’m sure a lot do,
However talking about the leaders of religion priests,imams,pastors your 100% correct they should be thought (not that they are ) of as nothing more than the embodiment of there books. Thats where the fight is there is know point going after a member of a religion the leaders are how you destroy the ideology they must be scrutinised to the highest degree.
Jews are better with money and they create ways to get more money they are pure capitalists and I’m sure just like your justification for hitler “freeing” his people because of there financial position that’s why there exiled because they become rich and people don’t like that, you wouldn’t like a bunch of Chinese people coming over and making ludicrous amounts of money while you’re suffering you too would start an exodus and claim that they shouldn’t be here as for the child sex stuff man every religion and every sect of these religions has pedophiles man at some point or another and pedophiles tend to claim whatever they have to to get access to your kid so whether it’s a pastor an imam or a priest any one of these positions pedos would take because they know they will be trusted because people trust the religion therefor they trust the religious leaders, is there anything in the Talmud about being allowed to rape children ?
I understand how to manage risks i work in finance, by prone you mean there’s a chance something can happen. Sure Audis are a terrible car but if you bought an Audi and it lasted 30 years and didn’t break down once you could see the value in that car even know the Audi’s around it are shit it doesn’t mean that your car is bad in fact it’s probably better than other brands while unlikely it does happen you can’t rule the possibility out just by looking at it you would have to see it for what’s inside and how that works.
I believe that one day my children may be judged on the content of there character not by the colour of their skin. MLK
And no again you can judge the individual in the context there in but you can’t just say that every black person is 30x more likely to kill you because some blacks will kill you 100% chance and some have a 0% chance when you aggregate everything into one statistic it no longer becomes true at the level of the individual that’s why you judge people on where they are what they are doing and at what time and you can make a much more rational and likely decision about that persons motive e.g if you see a black man in an alley at 2am laughing and talking to himself you best run the fuck away from that situation because that seems sketchy as shit he could be a murderer or he could be a drunk homeless man talking to a friend but you don’t take the risk because you understand the chance of danger is high understanding how to keep yourself safe isn’t a racist thing. Or what if one day god forbid obviously your daughter later when she is older is walking home from a club notices she’s being potentially followed by a black man if she fears for her life she may go seek refuge or help from the closest white dude and if she belives that her risk is much higher being on the street she will go off with him and not think twice that could end terribly all people are capable of evil no matter your skin colour it’s not about being PC.
I would talk to my daughter about risk management always making sure you have a plan b, self defense training, teach her to be confident in her self, make sure she understands the degenerates that could seek to harm her and anything I could to make sure she was safe from any potential attacker.
However this whole comment was about you saying hitler freed his people from the Jew bankers I find that wrong for these reasons and still don’t think all Jews are bad just like I’ll never think all christians are good.
Well sorry I forgot to add to my other reply haha.
He said “SADLY hitler was the last person to free his people from the Jew bankers” we are all for financial freedom but I don’t believe that’s a good enough reason to kill millons of innocent people who did nothing to the next person, ever stop to think that Jews know a lot about money and therefore have control of a lot of financial assets and even if Jews controlled 100% of the economy through legal means that’s not wrong at all, it’s the free market and I sure wouldn’t support a modern day uprising against the jews if they owned all financial industries, I fail to see how you are claiming his not being anti-semitic when he literally says “we are debt slaves to JEW bankers” why Jewish people just cause there rich you sure there aren’t any other people that aren’t Jewish profiting of of you haha most banks are owned by white man getting payed milllons to just hold your money, real estate agents take massive cuts of your investments so does taxation which again mostly goes to greedy people who aren’t Jews so was hitler justified to free his people through the actions he took ?
You don’t free people by committing religious genocide.
Oh I don’t know the crossover may be that if you kill millions of Jews you might be anti-semitic and saying that hitler freed his people by killing millions of Jews is stupid. Even if we are to follow your mindset and hitler ‘freed’ his people, do you not think that he could of maybe not used gas chambers, shoot them etc maybe instead if he cared about “freeing” his people, he would of used the Jews only as prisoners. Why did hitler order as many Jews to be killed as possible when he new he lost the war ? He could have released them there is no point killing them unless you hate Jews and that would make you anti-semetic make sense buster?
Don’t know how to quote I’m a new pede but yeah man I’m all for the destruction of the whole catholic system I don’t believe it’s a good form of Christianity one needs to look no further than catholics praying to saints & the fact they think priests are the people who you must repent/confess to that goes against the whole idea of that we are forgiven through Jesus, so I agree.
Man it says in the quaran many times to kill or torture those who do not believe in allah does every Muslim follow that order it’s about people’s personal ideology not what there book says I’m sure the Talmud has some wicked things and if people choose to do them they are despicable, but you can’t stereotype anyone well maybe besides lefties but that’s only because there literal NPC’s haha.
So despite your objections fren, how do you explain yourself ?
Yes the entire world should turn on China but diplomatically not in a militant way.
The greatest victory is that which requires no battle - Sun Tzu
Well maybe not a reckoning aussies in general support trump it’s the governments who would use there power to control our thought. I believe the main reason even right wing gov’s are applauding Biden is to cover there ass because they don’t want the most 1984 government to come and fuck there countries up somehow, if trump sanctions them they can’t just get the best of both worlds.
Wow dude that’s to far you don’t say hitler was a freedom fighter get the fuck out anti-semitism is stupid Jews are not bad people sure fucking some are terrible people and as a Christian man I wouldn’t stand here and let the church get dragged because of the kiddie fucking catholic priests, I hate the Rothschild dynasty because they are power hungry dogs not because they choose to be Jews. The problem is with peoples ideology and not what a religious book says. How about you say the problem is the greed and corruption of mankind and mention the people responsible instead of stereotyping fuck we have had enough of being stereotyped on the right as nazis, radicals, dangerous etc and if you despise what the media has done stereotyping us then you sir are a hypocrite.
Sounds like a good plan, but do you think China would start a war ?
Any country in debt shouldn’t be required to provide aid to anyone but there people that’s just plain wrong.
Do you mean for America to claim sovereignty over HK & Taiwan so that China can go eat dicks if so then 100%
First of all you I hope you are exaggerating when you say “ALL with dual citizenship” obviously not all muslims have DC that’s impossible. Dual loyalties, everyone has more than one loyalty, we are loyal to the American government, we are loyal to our families and we are loyal to above all god. If the American government backflips on our Christian beliefs I’m sure many would as I would disavow the government and break my loyalty. The government could stab us in the back at any time.
In America dude the only threat the Muslim people pose is expanding there population through birth to conquer the voting system and usher in sharia. That needs to be addressed because if we don’t besides obviously fuck sharia law we will end up in civil war and than there will be a Muslim exodus when America wins.
You’re children have a birthright to what ?
As far as terrorist threats go there aren’t all that many and every plot is foiled by the fbi/cia I’ll find you the report if you’d like.
Ah but the innocent person is just that innocent, would you support the death penalty still if your daughter was wrongfully accused of a crime she didn’t commit and sentenced to death ?
You could say the same for the church. Every time we give our money to the church we are in some way financing the physical, mental and sexual exploitation of children, if we know child abuse happens within the church and yet people still donate we are no better than the muslims who fund the mosques.
Obviously 99% of christians want there money to be used for the betterment of humanity, and it’s proven that mosques have been and still are used as a way to funnel money to terrorist organisations but you must judge everyone the same according to your ideals.
The reason you will not find a single Pakistani saying there is a flaw with the Quran is because the psycho radical leaders will put them to death. When did I lie about Islam ? I haven’t once stated Islam is good I’ve tried to make you understand that not all muslims are bad.
I know how many terror attacks and how many lives have been lost by the so called religion of peace, I am well aware of the damage they have done to once beautiful countries and I do not want that for us or anyone.
I believe Jews are better with money because all household income reports I’ve read state they earn more than pretty much every other group, that’s not a generalisation that’s a bunch of individuals saying how much the make there answers are aggregated into a collection of data and they come out on top 90% of the time.
It was 2am so I don’t blame you for not understanding my spiel, according to your links below on the 1,031 Jewish expulsions the majority are “Jews expelled” with no reason attached or “Jews massacred” “Jews enslaved” all with no reason attached. The very first expulsion states “this first entry may need to be removed because its largely mythistorical.” The post than goes on about the “Jews where expelled for not paying tribute” (586 B.C) “Jews where massacred after a revolt against a new tax” (12 B.C)
According to your source the only thing they where “convicted” of before Christ was in 139 (BC) for “attempting to corrupt romans into religious cults and cheating people of money” wow that’s certainly grounds for 800 years of persecution.
Imagine my shock when I learnt that 2000+ years ago the world was a war torn place and the Jews had not struck first instead revolted against taxes only to be massacred. They are in the right to uprise against a regime of persecution there’s is not a single instance in your source (B.C) of a Jew being expelled for kiddie fucking. So that’s 1500 years off your estimate you drop kick I’m not going to go through the whole A.D but you should and find me every instance of your supposed “ Jews are kiddie fuckers”
No I was suggesting you get your sources from the most whacked out parts of the internet if you’re going to make a crazy claim that goes against the narrative the vast majority believes you best be able to back yourself up. I’m all for having my mind changed if you could actually present factual evidence instead of “3500 year of pedophilia” only to be debunked in seconds that would be wonderful.
Also the burden of proof is on you to prove the Jews are rapists not me I don’t need to read the Talmud you need to provide evidence or have you forgotten how debate works ?
Yeah there’s not a 5/6 chance your going to be killed by a black person there is not a 5/6 chance your daughter will be raped by a Jewish gang in fact both those events would be less than a 0.001% chance so stop with the “it’s almost certain death” analogy.
It not luck the car survived 30 years it’s the fact it was made to last more than the cars around it was held together firmer, it was made of a higher quality but if all you ever see is the Audi symbol and can’t get past it before saying it’s deplorable then you judging the book by it’s cover. Just like a Toyota could break down 20x in the first year the brand dosent make the car good if wasn’t made well in the first place. Again not all Toyota’s are made great and not all Audis are made trash. It’s not 5/6 in the chamber if a Toyota lasts 15 years and an Audi lasts 7 you need to use an actual probability rather than “everything is an 83% risk”
You proved my point MLK was a great individual but his accomplishments must be overshadowed by the bad actions of the black community right ?
You have no idea what risk is or how to calculate it I’ll give you a quick rundown.
Maybe she should “take the risk” because a 1 in 232,203 chance of being killed is not worth being fearful and paranoid of the entirety of black people. Statistics don’t lie but liars use statistics. Let me explain how I got that number.
According to FBI data there was 13,927 people murdered, 1,146 people where under the age of 18.
Of those 1,146 there was 314 female victims. Equaling 27.39% Of those 1,146 there was 437 white victims. Equaling 38.133%
So of the 314 female victims it would be fair to reason 38.133% where white. Equaling a grand total of 119.7 rounded up to 120.
According to kids count the estimated under 18 population of America is 73,039,150 of those over 50% are female but we will say 50% for ease. Equaling 36,519,575
According to the us census 76.3% of Americans are white.
So 76.3% of 36,519,575 is 27,864,435 which is the amount of white under 18 American females.
27,864,435 divided by 120 equals 232,203.
Likewise it is expected that 1,190 children will die of cancer under the age of 15 in this year.
There’s approx. 60 million under 15’s in the USA that’s a ratio of 1 in 50,420.
So statistically you’re daughter is roughly 4.6x more likely to die from cancer if it’s your daughters life you are concerned about you best start getting weekly cancer screenings on your 15 yr old, or would that be scaring her more than it’s worth ? Fear mongering at its finest.
Again. Statistics don’t lie but liars use statistics.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-2.xls
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/99-total-population-by-child-and-adult-populations#detailed/1/any/false/1729,37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133/39,40,41/416,417
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/POP010210#POP010210
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-in-children/key-statistics.html
What I said was 100% right “ when you aggregate everything into one statistic it no longer becomes true (at the level of the individual)” Starting to sound like the MSM taking my words out of context to make me look stupid.
The statistic you used to try and say your daughters at risk didn’t account for age, race or gender of victim it could not be further from the truth, the statistic that took me 15 minutes to make is far closer to the risk your daughter faces and you should thank me to know you don’t have to worry so damn much.
Statistics don’t become false simply because you don’t like them, remember that.
No I’m arguing that although most can’t some people can be 10x the legal limit and still drive safely just like a Muslim or Jew can read the radical shit in there book and not be radicalised.
To understand what dude haha explain yourself ?
Do you have to take everything so literally my first comments in this thread where about why I find your opinion of the “freeing” hitlers people absolutely deplorable, I wasn’t talking just about the last comment I made.
Well considering usury means “ the practice of lending money at unreasonably high interest rates” so if for example someone gets a payday loan no I don’t think that’s wrong, but I’m sure that’s not what you mean maybe try rewording that sentence.