You guys are fucking retarded, they'll steal the Georgia Senate election too, you didn't stop them stealing the Presidential election and now you're fucked. Vote or not it won't make any fucking difference.

It's like I'm watching the movie the 2nd time, just exactly like it happened in my home country Venezuela.

I was calling up Tucker as the traitor he is/was months ago, and you guys refused to believe me: https://thedonald.win/p/GIc6Vqsb/x/c/13zztFh1JQ

Well, now it's clear as day.

It should be Trump or Civil War, but the right is full of pathetic losers all over the world, only the left fights.

That's fine and dandy, but what difference does it really make?

White, Asian, Hispanic, Black all have fallen to communism and burn their countries to the ground.

Are White communist countries better than Hispanic or even Asian communist countries?

Maybe, but they're still fucking awful shitholes.

Okey... and what do you want me to do about it?

I don't even have any problem with racists BTW, I just don't understand what it have to do with the conversation.

I'm not in the US, I'm in Chile. My sister live in Tulsa, Oklahoma though.

Chile is also on the path to Venezuela too, I give Chile about 20 years to be at Venezuela 2010 (which was the point of no return), and the US 20-30 years at most. Keep in mind that Venezuela was already awful before 2010, that was just the point of no return.

And yes there is no anywhere else to fuck off to, yes there is countries like Japan that are in better shape but first they're really hard to emigrate to and second they're already been subverted by the left too, just in an earlier stage but China will subvert them no question.

The eastern European countries are useless for an American to go because their standard of living is way lower and they'll fall pretty soon too, they just aren't strong enough to escape the EU, specially if America falls.

The only way I see is to corrupt yourself to survive in a communist regime. I couldn't so I left, and honestly it wasn't even a matter of values, it's just that being corrupt it's suck an annoying clusterfuck, see you cannot be straight about anything ever.

I kinda don't know if I'm explaining myself, but you cannot imply someone it's corrupt when you're dealing with them, even if what they're doing it's extremely corrupt, people learn to justify to themselves the most ridiculous things under a Communist regime. You cannot be direct, you have to allude to things and other bullshit that's just super fucking annoying.

For example, once crossing the border from Venezuela to Colombia, completely legal through the public normal checkpoint that thousands went everyday. The reason I went to Colombia that way was because I needed to come to Chile and I couldn't find flight directly from Venezuela nor from Venezuela to Colombia so I had to go on bus, you cannot pass the border on your own car, we used to but not anymore. So you take a bus to the border then go on foot cross the border and then get another bus in Colombia to reach your destination.

But a fucking Venezuelan National Guard stopped me and took me to one of their rooms, of course they didn't find anything on me to detain me except American dollars, which was a bullshit excuse because you could have up to $10.000 by law, but he didn't care. Basically what he was doing was delaying me so I would be at risk of losing my flight, so I had to bribe him for him to let me go.

The ridiculous part was that I didn't offer the fucking bribe, he offered it to himself but pretending like I was offering it, all completely bizarre, I almost laughed even as pissed as I was. Finally when I said whatever I need to go and was giving him the money, there was no cameras, no ranking officer, no one else for him to pretend to, just him and me and the motherfucker still put both his hands behind him looked the other way and weirdly signaled me to leave it like I forgot about it or something, and it's still illegal for him to take that money even if I left it or fell from my pocket so WTF.

Be prepared for anything to be an annoying pain in the ass to do, you need contacts, you need people to owe you favors if you want to get anything done, it still will be a pain in the ass but at least not impossible like it become through legal means.

You need to learn to protect yourself from inflation which will become increasingly and increasingly difficult because the government would always be looking to fuck you over and doesn't like that you don't take it in the ass from inflation.

Yeah... they're going to install an unelected President, sorry but an unelected congress it's really not a stretch.

Ha, ha, ha.

I actually am white, not only that, I'm actually of English descent (which is pretty rare on Venezuela), some German and Italian too, and a little Spaniard.

What I don't get it's what does that have to do with what I'm saying.

We also fought pretty damn hard, much harder than Americans have so far TBH, tough you still have some time left, not much but some.

At the end what matters it's not how hard you fight but how, the left fight way way less hard but they're also way underhanded, actually use violence and use any mean necessary hence much more effective.

Nope.

Honestly it's much worse than you think, in Venezuela it reached a point where most of the population that opposed the government got involved in protest, men, women, teenagers, everyone was willing to risk their life and hundred and eventually thousands were killed and people still kept risking their life.

You know what was what actually most people didn't want to do, the only thing that works, killing the enemy, very few of us in the opposition were willing to do it, so we were always stopped by our own side who insisted you could achieve things pacifically even though the government was willing to kill as many as was necessary to remain in power.

Eventually I got tired of our own side always sabotaging itself and left because I knew nothing would ever be accomplished, and they continued for years and years and the chavista government only got stronger and stronger.

When I left I told them something like this: "Until you guys are ready to kill your own neighbor, your own family if they side with the government you'll never accomplish shit", and they were happy to see me go because they thought I was crazy, over the years I've come in contact with some of the survivors and now they've told me how I was right and how futile it all was.

We'll see, as of right now I don't see much of a difference.

Even just the threat of violence could be enough but I don't even see that from the right and a lot from the left.

They won't really take away your guns like you imagine, they will isolate you and little by little make the 2nd amendment a non factor, little by little they'll control more and territory where only the government would be able to wield the threat of violence, people there would become accustom to it and dependent on the government and they'll side against you and they will eventually vastly outnumber you first 2 to 1, then 3 to 1, and after that it's pretty much done.

And honestly they already took away your guns, just because your part of the woods hasn't been affected yet doesn't change the part that the 2nd amendment essentially doesn't exist anymore in vast parts of the country.

We'll see, it is true that you have many more layers of protection that we did.

On the other hand a lot of things seem a lot worse for you guys, for example your intelligence agencies seem completely compromised even with Trump in charge which actually took years for Chávez to achieve, universities in Venezuela also turned against Chávez and the same with entertainment, in the US the're completely against Trump along with Silicon Valley and Wall Street which weren't a thing in Venezuela.

No, they're leftist and they're communists.

Hillary, Biden, Obama they're all communists, it's just that not all communists want a revolution to get into power some prefer to do it little by little.

They may have different methods but the end goal is the same, they're all pupils of Saul Alinsky.

Honestly I would love to see it, if it's a prolonged conflict I would even try to join it but I just don't see anything happening, they have already pushed way too far and nothing happened why would it happen now?

We don't have the 2A but we do have/had the 350 which it's very similarly to the Insurrection Act, but honestly I just don't see how 2A would make any difference, it haven't mean anything until now, so why would it matter when they gain even more power.

You never have any unfortunately, and the fact that you think that there's still some left is very worrying.

Well, I hope so.

But, even though the election was only 3 days ago, what is happening right now started decades ago.

So did Venezuelans, and honestly do did the American founding fathers.

They're stealing the election completely blatantly and nothing has happened nor will it happen.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people on the right think like this, but the problem I see that they are always waiting for the left to come for them like suddenly they would use the whole power of the government at once to take all your rights at once.

But it's obviously not going to be like this, they've been chipping away little by little for more than 50 years now. It's the proverbial boiling frog and people refuse to realize it's already boiling.

Like for example, would you have thought 10 years ago that what's happening today would be happening, hell would you have though it 5 years ago?

Let's be honest the right isn't going to use violence, at best you'll see some rednecks fighting back when they finally use the army to take away their guns, by then it'll be way way too late.

Again what's the purpose of the 2nd Amendment if you don't actually use it.