The UCMJ is an extralegal set of rules designed to punish people in the military. It is actually unconstitutional because it overrides the constitutional protections of due process and eliminates many constitutional rights.
IF the UCMJ limited it's punishments to job-related punishments, such as loss of promotions, defrocking, and being fired, it would be fine. But there is an entire penal system within the military based on UCMJ courts that sentence imprisonment. This is so outside of the Constitutional protections every other American has, it is amazing it is still allowed to exist.
This is why a sailor who took a selfie on a submarine goes to prison but Hillary never even saw a judge for sharing highly classified information on a home server.
I believe in a strict code of punishment within the military, because it is vital to have one. But it should not be outside of the Constitution. Military members are citizens of the United States and deserve the same rights and freedoms and due process that anyone else has.
And yes, I am a veteran. No I was never punished under the UCMJ.
You also write so damn well
Thank you for that very kind compliment. It's pretty much all I am good at. I spent the past several days using that one skill to try and keep spirits up. This whole thing has been a real gut punch for people who, as you said before, follow the rules and think things work as they should.
I still think all of this will be reversed in the courts. It's gotten to the point where it is impossible to ignore. But we're going to feel like we are on the losing side because every voice that has a microphone or a camera is going to be acting like Biden won, regardless of the reality.
It's frustrating man. I get that it is frustrating. But the best thing we can do is outright reject it and continue to support Trump. His goal in his second term was to do what he ran to do in the first place. Not trade deals, not the economy, not any of that. His aim was the cause of all of that stuff; to take out the corruption in government.
And they knew it. And that is why they went to this extreme to try to get rid of him. That is really who we are fighting against. We cannot let them steal our right to make them accountable for countless crimes against the People. That's the actual fight. It's not about Trump. And taking down Trump cannot be allowed to take down this MAGA movement, which started as the Tea Party Movement.
All of this, all of us, started back in the 2000s under Andrew Breitbart. I know that someone who used to be Left might not have been privy to this movement or how it started and how Trump comes into any of it. But the movement has now grown to half of the country at this point. The vast majority of voters who voted for Biden represent the "uninformed voter". That is not the case on our side. And if the elite thinks they will simply rig an election and all will be well, brother they are wrong and they are signing their own death warrants if it is not reversed.
As much as I hope if the worst happens we are smart enough to simply target the bad actors and force a conciliatory outcome, I highly doubt it will stop there. Some people will want blood and it will be hard to hold them back. Revolutions and civil wars always lead to unnecessary deaths. I pray to God we do not have to get to that point.
SCOTUS, if they let the outside color their choice instead of the law, will have to decide between Leftist riots and civil war.
As much as I preach constantly against the boogaloo crap, if the court actually allows fraud on this level to stand, we have no choice. No election will ever mean anything if this is not slapped down. Which means we lost our country and will have to take it back.
I hate sounding bellicose about this. But what the Democrats did is far beyond what I thought even they would try. It's time to see whether our Constitution is still the law of the land or an old piece of paper.
you follow rules and think things work the way they should, they do not
If you think people like me are naive, we are not. We trust the system up to the point it fails us. There is a reason why those of us on the Right are so well armed. We hope to God we never have to go that route, and we will depend on the law as much as possible to avoid ever having to use arms.
But if the Left and those in power think for a minute that we are unwilling to make it violent if they overstep too much, they are wrong. And they have way overstepped here. We see what is going on. If President Trump is basically ousted by a coup under the guise of an election, then we know that is the new "normal". And we do not accept it. Elections will never mean anything after this if we do not rectify this situation.
That sort of thing is a last resort. We are calm in the face of these things because we do not want to see that last resort. It would damage our country for a generation.
But if you think we are not willing to physically take our country back, you're wrong.
Many of us served in the military because we are cut from that sort of cloth. We do not want to see our country turned into a battlezone. But if we must, we are determined to fight. A lot of what you say is true...for past elections. This one is different. Especially because of how it was blatantly stolen. No "Conservative" or even an objective person can look at this and ever believe in an election again.
If SCOTUS refuses to do the right thing, then they will avoid riots. But they will invite civil war. Your read on this is based on the past. We are looking at an entirely different scenario than has ever played out before.
Fair point. And as someone who considers myself a calm and reasonable person (compared to the boogaloo crowd), I must say that if justice does not prevail, I am now willing to take up arms if necessary.
What happened this week simply cannot be allowed. We cannot go forward and just accept it. It's too dangerous. I still have faith in the system and that this will be won through lawsuits. It should have never got to that point, but what else can be done?
I really fear for this country right now. Even if we get justice, there will still be violence. The Left will absolutely go full crazy. If I were a SCOTUS Justice, I would hate my job right now. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But I hope they do the right thing and give us a chance to clean the system up to prevent this ever happening again. No matter what happens, we have some hard years ahead. Hopefully it ends with the Left being stamped out for good.
Noise doesn't, and SHOULD NOT affect the Supreme Court.
The legal questions in all of this are clear. The Democrats broke multiple laws in states that were designed to prevent election fraud. Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and ACB have a pretty easy job here, as long as they are willing to do what is right. And considering the character of those people as we know them, I do not see any reason why they would not apply the laws as written.
Gingrich is saying we need to get mad because we do need to get mad. What the Democrats did is the most offensive thing ever. Nothing like this should be possible or even considered to be allowed ever again. There needs to be serious prison sentences for anyone involved in the planning and execution of this crime against the People. There should be years of televised trials, parading one criminal after another to answer for their deeds in the full view of the American People.
We need to get mad and demand it.
I'm not going to condemn "world leaders" for congratulating Biden. They're on the outside looking in and have an even dimmer view of what is going on. It's tough enough to convince Americans that there is a real legal battle to be waged and the election isn't over, much less people in other countries.
Any world leader has to be looking at this and assuming Biden will be it, even if he cheated his way in, and as the leader of their country they need to respond to that and do what's best for their country.
Getting salty about it would put them in a bad position if the courts do not favor actual justice here and allow the steal to happen. If things are reversed (which I believe they will be) and Trump is reelected, then any of these world leaders can come to Trump and tell him how glad they are he got it reversed.
If I were a world leader, I'd probably do the same as Netanyahu and others are doing. Your country comes first. Starting off on the wrong foot with a new administration is bad for your country.
I do. I've gone to things like this and like a handful of people show up. We stand around looking like idiots and just get laughed at. We say we'll have "thousands" there or something, and then when we only get a few dozen the media makes sure to point out how few show up.
It hurts our cause on a psychological level when we don't actually show up for these things. And nobody wants to be a part of a failed attempt at getting lots of Trump supporters to come out. It's embarrassing and it sucks.
I live in the DC area, it is nothing for me to go to something like this. But I'll still not show up if I have no sense for how many others are going. I don't want to go through that again.
People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.
Maybe that is the issue. I have no beef with the OP. Or with anyone. I am just comparing 2016 TD to 2020 TD, and it has gone from facts to feelings. I want facts. I want all of that beautiful autistic information to dip into.
Instead I get "well, I think this is happening" on the top shelf and "here are numbers showing things" that gets like 2 upvotes.
If I dig hard, I can find the information. It's there. Pedes are doing the work. But they are not getting voted up to the top. That is my complaint.
When Presidential elections are invalidated, the state legislature determines how to assign the electors.
Gotta stop you right there buck-o. The power of state legislatures in this is not dependent on "invalidated" or "contested" elections. They have supreme power under Article I, Section 2. All states have chosen to have elections. They do not have to have them constitutionally. It's a good idea they do have them, their citizens would likely riot if they didn't at this point. But it was not always this way.
The courts and the administration of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania have no power here. Nothing they say or do overrides what the Constitution, which they agreed to over 200 years ago, says. They can rant and rave and make big waves, but they have no power. The Legislature of PA does. And that body made amendments to laws concerning elections this year, and they stipulated that mail-in ballots or any other ballots made after 8 pm on November 3rd are invalid. And that they reserve the right to nullify ALL mail-in ballots. At the time they were worried about the mess we are currently in. It appears they were prescient in that regard.
OK, we got that out of the way, and we probably agree on all the points.
What I am saying is there is nothing available to SCOTUS to demand a new election. It's not a thing at all for President and Vice President. All they can do is use various state laws to invalidate certain ballots. That's it.
Pennsylvania Legislature could decide to run a new election. That is a totally valid option. But it is equally unlikely.
I agree with your opinion in this. It is more prudent to simply disregard any of these late vote counts. They played a game and showed their asses, and thus disenfranchised thousands of voters along with fake ballots. PA needs to fix their shit, but it shouldn't decide what happens to the rest of the country when some of their citizens play fuck fuck games with the election. Keep the consequences at home.
I will also say that while it is bizarre in the extreme for the SCOTUS to come out with any sort of ruling on anything in this (this is really unprecedented I think), they are not technically bound by any law from doing so. It is signalling that SCOTUS is willing and ready to adjudicate these issues as quickly as they can.
In ALL cases Trump will win. The Democrats overreached here, and it will bite them hard in the ass.
But again, a "new election" is not going to happen. PA would have to approve funding for it, and beg PA voters to show up to do it, and I really think none of that will fly. They voted. The Democrats played fuck fuck games. PA citizens are pissed off. A new election is not going to happen and should not happen. The Democrats should lose hard for trying to cheat. End of story.
I got your back man. We are a big beautiful family. Rant and rave and get if off your chest. There is a good reason for anger right now, but we are too smart for it. Kick the lawn chair and get back in here. We got work to do.
God is always ultimately in control, but nobody knows what He is doing, and anyone claiming to is a false prophet.
If we have to mix in this current election, I'd say that the United States is the single greatest force for Christianity on the planet. It would be likely that God might make sure it doesn't go down the tank. But then His perspective is eternal, so how should I know.
God is in control when it comes to the overall universal timeline. It makes no sense to me that He somehow picks political parties and football teams. It doesn't mean you shouldn't pray. God clearly will act based on prayer. He has promised He would.
But, elections and that sort of thing? If there was an intervention by God, it was when He guided our Founders in crafting the Constitution which is likely what will save this election. For us, that was over 200 years ago. For God, that was a few minutes ago.
Perspective is really important when thinking about God and His interactions with us.
There has been an unfortunate trend of "Pastors" preaching that Earthly wealth somehow is gained from faith. These guys act like motivational speakers and the like, and it's bizarre in the extreme.
If you want wealth on Earth, you have to work to get it, like everyone else does. And wealth can be a total positive thing, especially when personally helping people not just chucking it to this or that charity or paying outrageous taxes.
But there is no guarantee we get the goods here if we are Christians. It just doesn't work that way.
Love you buddy, and that was a really good question you had.
I upvoted you before even responding because I don't want you to feel like what you are saying is invalid. It is absolutely valid. And you are saying things I have heard and even felt a thousand times.
Perspective is a great teacher. It is perspective that answers all of your questions.
God is not a "genie" and is not there to grant wishes. God does sometimes change things based on prayer. God also does so sometimes based on the amount of prayer from people. Even sparing a place from disaster, or sparing some from it, based on prayer.
But God is not in the business of making our lives on Earth better. That isn't the goal in the first place. That is where we get to perspective.
Life is not about suffering. In fact, most people in this country do not suffer, because this country was based on some very Christian principles that prevent a lot of suffering. That is not true in the majority of nations on the planet. There is tons of suffering elsewhere.
We see everything from a perspective of life on Earth. Because that is where we are and what we live. On Earth, we have choices to make and choices have consequences. And we can benefit from those choices or pay the consequences. God does not necessarily come down from on High to fix mistakes you made. Nor does He fix what someone else did to you. It may seem unfair that you can pray every day and God doesn't help you in material ways, but it comes down to perspective.
Here is the perspective. Life on Earth, in our corporeal bodies is temporary. We know this. We die eventually. It is inevitable. What happens here decides life after death, based on what we accept or how we behave. If we can be perfect, we can be accepted by God in the afterlife. But nobody has ever been perfect. So we have an "easy pass" around that. Which is accepting the sacrifice of Christ.
Accepting that is what makes us Christians. Not being good. Not being perfect. Not whether we are rich or poor or any of that. Accepting that free gift gives us access to be with God.
It is possible there are different "tiers" in Heaven, although I am not sure I believe that much, but what we do here on Earth would likely affect that. None of that matters really, what does matter is accepting the gift of Christ.
And from God's perspective, our lives here are small and go by in a flash. And God is not too concerned with if your life was hard or easy. If He has you coming home soon, He's just waiting for you to come home. He'll take care of you in Heaven.
Perspective.
So as Christians, helping people is a duty simply as an act of Love, because God puts Love first above all things. But spreading God's Word is equally important. Bringing more of His children home.
I'm afraid that having an easy life here is not a priority. It just isn't. Pray anyways. God may find a reason to answer those prayers in a way you like. Either way He always answers them. We just don't always see it or like it.
He has a different perspective than we do.
I hope this answer helps you. If it doesn't, I'm sorry.
Why should Tucker bail? He's making millions and gets to say whatever he wants on the most watched show in the nation.
Fuck that. Let Fox continue to suck his dick while he tells everyone the truth.
I'm tired of people bailing. That is how these networks go to shit. Stay there and keep talking truth. Make them fire you.
Fox won't fire him, he's their cash cow and they know it.