No it's on me, I misjudged you and your argument entirely and I'm sorry for that. You make some good points and I like your style, open minded. It's my bad brother.
It's that very point that's so frustrating for me, and I consider it just some horrible aftermath of a demoralization process, these rational and logical failings. Honestly until the last 5-10 years I have never seen anything like it in my life. I actually just typed this in a similar post but the path we are fighting for with Trump. I honestly think it could lead to American Renaissance that lifts all Americans up, and brings the whole world up with it. Of course I'm not certain but my heart believes that this is the best chance to get that. How is such a simple belief in a positive goal also seen as such a hateful horrible thing. I really can't come to terms with it.
It's just such a trip. I'm so certain in my heart that the path we are on supporting Trump would lift everyone up, and make a new American renaissance that all varieties of American citizens benefited greatly from. I can't understand how it could be viewed as polar opposite, that Trump would be terrible for them and Biden a savior.
Yea fair enough, I think society goes way over the top not holding women accountable in these matters and already blames men. I agree though that the meme would be far more reaching if it was split male / female on the left and right pointing out the standard traps both fall into in neglecting to make a cohesive family for a child. In it's current state it's just going to echo around with MGTOW types.
Absolutely agree, that's my fear as well. I do personally put a lot of stock into what Yuri says. If I had to throw down all my money on the root cause of everything that's happening today I would say the KGB planned some effective as hells psyops in the late 60s and it was so well done that it keeps festering long after the Cold War has ended. There's this never ending mental derangement in so many elements of our society that foster self defeating choices for ourselves and our country. As you say it's all be convoluted by these bizarre cultural conditionings.
On the bright side, this MAGA movement right now, this fight for the presidency represents the only chance we have to pull out of that nose dive. I believe if we win here that we can cure whatever disease this country has that causes it weather it's some crazy ex-kgb psyops or just a fallout of the times like maybe passing into the digital age sort of caused it.
Perhaps a more controversial point but I believe the baby boomers were the weak men that led to hard times unfortunately.
I'll get behind this, you have a point. The hurdle we face here is a terminology one that Fascism and Nazi and Authoritarian have been fused so heavily into "Whiteness". Those 3 terms are used daily to talk about Trump. I agree the shape of the threat you describe. We're kind of in a mental prison where all the needed terminology has been skewed.
To be honest, I don't really see much difference in any of the terms for state controlled systems, Fascism, Communism, Totalitarianism, they basically seem the same outside of romanticizing the word choice of what the state allows. That's the strange trap American politics are in. They consider far left "socialism" and far right "fascism". However the far right should be wild west, and all oppressive governments are on the left. In that case they are confusing a portion of Nazi Germany, nationalism, with the entirety of it's Fascism, since the right does demonstrate Nationalistic beliefs but doesn't really lend to the fascism.
It's like a mental word prison. I do agree with you but i don't know how you start spinning it correctly since all unfavorable words now mean, white/male/trump supporter/American etc.
Also the point you made in another post below: That's my understanding they allow traditional religions but I think it's similar to America's push towards socialism where here we have tons of anti-religion propaganda mocking it and pushing it way out of favor with each generation, ultimately demoralizing us into some shit form of government.
We can agree there, I didn't understand the angle completely you were taking. I do feel Nazi is an overused buzz word to insult non-woke white people, no one is going to even know what it truly means from here on out except "Trump Support" at this point. To our other discussion I do see your point and would place CCP closer I suppose to a Nazi style of Fascism than I would a pure implementation of communism.
Your point is that communism is to much of like a tin foil term for people to get behind? I think the issue with dealing with China within western culture is a global checkmate via the mental disorder that makes us terrified to be racist. Since China is an ethnostate we can't classify them as naziesque or racists, because they shift the wording in that case from the country to the race of people and convert you into a bigot.
To rectify: your point actually is growing on me, I misinterpreted you as trying to sell the "glory" of Fascist/Free Market hybrid communism when it sounds like you are interested in a more accurate clarification. It's an interesting point, especially because I think communism is a boogy man, if you say you are worried about communism to a normie here they think you are insane. (Although that's been easing up in the last year.)
I'll play though for fun:
No hell below us, Above us Only Sky: China heavily propaganda's against religion and that's always been the heart of demoralizing people into communism / fascism. Imagine no possessions: You own nothing in China unless the government lets you.
The part I would agree with you on is Imagine all the people sharing all the world, there are many things the CCP allows that doesn't seem to have this interest at heart. That's the 3 main verses so I'll give CCP a 2/3. It's like Imagine with slavery and genocide replacing the crunchy hippy stuff.
It's an unconventional communism compared to Russia or Mao, the state has it's hand in everything and permits capitalism to run only as long as they see it benefiting the state. Any business can be shut down or taken over at any time. So you are allowed property by serving as a delegate profiteering or completing a service that the state desires at their whim.
I think you are giving to much value to Chinese Propaganda.
Yea it's a good point. I have faith that the population of the USA at least on the Maga side will not act in a racist way towards our fellow citizens 99.9999999% of the time. In an optimistic view of things to come, there's a chance it's much different than 9/11 and instead we see an American renaissance that elevates the whole world with it, America first, restoring American industry and values and the middle class and potentially expose some of the bad actors on the world stage. I wonder also, we'll have to see, thanks for the conversation.
I think not allowing nationals from a country we are in a cold war with to operate freely here has nothing to do with Japanese American citizens being put into camps. It would be a ban on citizens of China due to it's government actions and has nothing to do with the race of the people that make up that country.
Don't apologize it's ridiculous to be told you can't expel nationals from a country we are basically in a cold war with. Thinking this way is leftist demoralization in line of "If you don't accept immigrations completely from every country you are a racist".
Lets get our own country in order first or we're going to be in the same boat they are then there will be no hope. Perhaps there could be some oversight to address fringe cases like you describe but it's sort of a heart string extreme case you are trying to put on me. We as Americans are going to have to make a stand against this threat and the Chinese should have also but didn't. Now the entire world is facing a threat of communism because of it.
I never heard of him and he doesn't seem remarkable enough to warrant research into.