we knew. someone please tell me how, knowing what they were doing, why we could not stop them. I am concerned that it means we can never stop them

Matt Drudge: People are sick! How they’ve got here, you’ve been on a wonderful arc over, almost decades now, explaining why people are, and have become so sick. That being said, people are willing to be made over in the image of these corporations. The reason there’s so much anger online, also, is a newspaper like the Washington Post will leave a comment section. They don’t care what you’re saying. They don’t care what you’re thinking. That’s why you get this anger, that “oh, I have to be,” you know “I’m out here as a citizen, and I’m operating in their playground.” Make your own playground! The reason I’m here, Alex, is because you’ve made your own playground. This is a figment of your imagination, and the Drudge Report is mine. It is a very simple thesis; you are what you dream you are and become. And, I wish Americans would get out of the sickness and just become greater.

Alex Jones: No, I agree, but I’ve invaded all those.

Matt Drudge: Make your own place. Make your own. The engine that allows you to make your own dynamic, your own universe. Why are you gravitating towards somebody else’s universe? And, this is kind of, again, where Drudge to me, when I look at it right now, is a correction to this groupthink that has…

Alex Jones: Oh, I totally agree with what you’re saying…

Matt Drudge: There’s no difference from any of these websites! You go up and down. We talk about this. What’s the difference between the websites? Between a Slate or a Salon, or a Buzzfeed, or a HuffPo? What is the difference! There isn’t any! And, this is a travesty. It’s so much like, it’s almost like a weird conglomerate of groupthink that has developed in a dynamic era that should be vibrating. It should be vibrating. It should be controversial. But, I guess it’s fear. Uhh, not everybody is cut from the same genetic background as you or I, Alex, of being brave, and being able to stand up. You’re on the camera, I’m not. You’re more brave than I am. So, this is the dynamic that I’m in. I would just like to wake people up. Stop operating in their playground! Stop it!

Alex Jones: Well, let me say this. I totally agree with you. I’ve tried. I couldn’t pay for the bandwidth to put all of our videos out on our own platforms. Now we’re doing that at PrisonPlanet.tv and the Nightly News, and putting ourselves up on television to reach people because it’s kind of like jacking into the Matrix, going into their playground. I try to then claw them over here to see what we’re trying to do, what you’re trying to do. But, I totally agree with you. The answer is for all of us to create our own systems, our own ideas, because vibrant independent ideas will trump this corporate, plastic Borg, this brainwashing they’re trying to push. I mean, banning ‘father’ and ‘mother,’ banning the word ‘husband’ and ‘wife,’ I mean that’s so cultic that if I’d of been told ten years ago they were gonna ban words like that, I wouldn’t have believed it. They do it with straight faces. I mean, has the left, and of course the controlled-right as well, have they gone collectively insane on a control-freak bent? Or, is there a strategy?

Matt Drudge: I would also advise people to not waste their time on this. I had a Supreme Court Justice tell me to my face it’s over for me. He said “Matt, it’s over for you. They’ve got the votes now to enforce copyright law, you’re outta there. They’re gonna make it so headlines, so you can’t even use headlines.” To have a Supreme Court Justice say that to my face, that it’s over, they’ve got the votes. Which means time is limited. Time is not forever. How many more moons and sunrises will you see in your life rise and fall? There’s not that many! It’s a small amount! So, for people to be saying with this attitude “ohh, I’ll get on with my life, and my greatness, sometime.” No, you can’t!

Alex Jones: I have never had a ‘deer in the headlights’ experience this crazy. Because, I’m not really a fan of, like, rock stars, movie stars, people like that. I like politics. And, I’m sitting there during that seventy second break, and Matt Drudge rounds the corner over here, and it was like total and complete deer in the headlights, and I’m still double-taking here. And then, he’s hiding over there in the shadows right now, I’m not kidding. They’re going to say this is another conspiracy theory. And, uhh, we got Anthony Gucciardi, is Matt Drudge over there? He is over there. Come on, just for a second to give the national media a heart attack, can you just walk over here behind the stage, or they’re not gonna believe it. No, see, it’s. Yeah, right around this way.

Matt Drudge: I haven’t had one photo in eight years.

Alex Jones: I know you haven’t had one photo in eight years. Alright, I’m gonna turn the mic your way. They can do voice print. Is this Matt Drudge? (laughter) Utt-ohh, it’s made up. It’s a stunt. April Fools came early. What, how many months early? 5 months early? April Fools folks, I fooled ya. Am I supposed to go to rebroadcast now that you’re here? Because you get to hang out with my crew and I’m on the air? This is, like, diabolical! Oh my gosh. Anyways, no, seriously, do you think folks are gonna believe Matt Drudge was here?

Anthony Gucciardi: (laughter) I don’t even believe he’s here!

Alex Jones: I didn’t believe it! Only because it was, like, such short notice! It was like boom! I remember years ago. Well, anyways, I’m not gonna get into it. This is crazy! Alright, well I’m not gonna be aggressive and turn the light on over there and aim the document-cam over there. But, Matt Drudge came in, said ‘hi’ to me, thought it was a three minute break and then went over there. I’m definitely going to have to play a clip or something. Do we have one of those special reports coming back from the next break? Alright, this has now entered complete Twilight Zone. Hey! But we got a new article up on INFOWARS: “Obama Arms ISIS Militants, Pushes Gun Control On Very Same Day: Obama authorizes resupplying “Syrian opposition” on same day he demands gun control against American citizens.” And, of course I was covering this Breitbart article a lot, but I missed, I miss stuff all the time. I knew they were doing this, but I didn’t know they were actually openly doing it. “Obama Administration and UN Announce Global Police Force To Fight Extremism in U.S.” And then we’ve got all these callers that want to talk to me. You know, Matt has hosted the Drudge Report Show for so long, but also Rush Limbaugh. So, I would imagine he could come over here and actually host the show for us, except he’s not really here! What if we put a microphone into the darkness coming out of the break, and folks can do a voice print analysis to see if it’s Matt Drudge? He’s not gonna do it? I’m telling you, this is so classically reclusive. I wish I could do that. He is back there right now.

Matt Drudge: It’s taken a lot of work to get to this point.

Alex Jones: I know it’s taken a lot of work to get to this point. I admire you! Maybe I should become reclusive! Huh? He’s a big guy! In good shape too! I was like “man, who is that big guy!? Who is that? I recognize that guy! Who’s that guy with him?!” I was like “Oh my God!” (laughter) What did I look like, Buckley, when he walked in?

Buckley: Uhh, flabbergasted!

Alex Jones: I mean, I was literally like “who is that!?” You are somethin’ else man! God, I tell ya! He’s got a lot of class, the way he pulls stuff off. I’m kinda the opposite, like a bull in a china shop. A loose cannon. Anyways, I was already super wound-up today. I’ve already had too many DNA Forces today, and this is now pushing me over the edge. I need some Jack Daniels, Buckley, immediately. (laughter) I’ve not been drinking since last Thursday. I’ve been being a good boy, and I’ve been bein’ nice, but I tell ya, I may have to. I don’t have any, what do you call them? Tranquilizers. But I think I need a tranquilizer dart or something. Alright folks, we’ll be right back. No, seriously, because I’m starstruck right now! This is crazy! And, the way he did it is even worse! And, then it’s gonna be even worse when they have, like, some major establishment, White House-driven, publications say I made it all up! So we at least, well, we can’t get a photo for Twitter. What are we gonna do? The suspense is deafening! DrudgeReport.com, you can read up there where this guy put stuff up on his Facebook. The supposed shooter, about how he just had so many pills he was on, psychotropics, lithium and other things, that he ended up just taking five at a time. So the question is, was he on meds? And the answer is, does a bear, you know, do different things like jump rope in the woods. We’ll be right back.

Alex Jones: Alright folks, Alex Jones here back live well into the third hour. I did not do this is a stunt, neither did Matt Drudge. He is here. We have a hot mic over there. He wants to stay, literally, in the shadows behind a curtain. But, this is the king of being able to push a story out and make it the number one story in the world. They even admit that in New York Times that he has more readers on politics and news than Facebook, The New York Times and the Washington Post, L.A. Times, put together. He’s got some of our stories where the shooter himself said he was on a bunch of drugs. He’s linked to that today, and that’s a story they don’t want out there. Or, the story where CNN took a mixed racial, Christian-hater and turned him into a right wing white supremacist, and turned him white. They don’t want people knowing that, but Matt Drudge and his great crew, can link to alternative stories, foreign stories, mainstream stories, photos, mug shots, and really just focus on what Matt Drudge thinks is interesting, and the public tends to agree with him, that what he focuses in on is really catching the zeitgeist, or the pulse of the people. So, he might have fifty links every day, where Facebook has five hundred million, but he has more traffic. That is the true David Versus Goliath story. And, this is not scripted. I have no idea where I should go. Matt Drudge, I guess you’re here for ACL, or why are you in Austin, Texas?

Matt Drudge: (laughter) Well, you were just talking about Facebook. And, thanks again for having me here. Umm, I’m not on Facebook. Umm, I don’t do the socials. I’ve got that little Twitter thing, even that’s kind of disgusting. You know, I’ve been doing the Internet as long as you’ve been doing this radio show, Alex, literally every day as you have literally every day, practically. I think you’ve taken a little more time off than I have actually.

Alex Jones: Yes, I’ve kinda gotten…

Matt Drudge: And, I can’t say that about many people, because you are a peer without peer. And, I’ll tell you, I was there before Facebook, I was there before CNN.com, I was there before mostly all of them. I have a very clear perception what the Internet is in my mind. I’m free. I’m not defined by what they say is the Internet is. Meaning Goldman Sachs, meaning who they invest in for the latest start-up, meaning the latest Buzzfeed, or Salon, or Gawker. Well, Gawker’s more independent. But, there’s a lot of corporate makeover of the Internet that I have not adapted to, simply put. I’m friends with some of them. When I go to New York I make the 6th Avenue rounds, but I am not a part of that system. I’m a free-thinker. I’m an American. I’m very concerned with what’s happening. So, I just give it my all. I’ve learned how to take care of myself and detach from outcomes because, otherwise, you can’t survive. And, I don’t know where you are on that topic, that’s…

Alex Jones: I just follow my instinct because they always tell us how to adapt to be successful, but really we’re just adapting to their mindset to be their slaves.

Matt Drudge: I don’t! I don’t!

Alex Jones: No, you don’t!

Matt Drudge: I have remained completely independent from all of them. All of them! I am not influenced by any of them. I need no traffic from Google. I don’t care if I get one traffic referral from Google, or Bing, or Yahoo, or any of these others. It’s always been that way. Now, if you think of that set up, how rare that is, because everybody is so hungry for referrals, for ‘likes.’ I don’t need to be liked. I don’t need to be liked at all. I don’t care if there’s a button right there at the top of Drudge saying ‘like’ or ‘dislike,’ ‘thumbs up,’ ‘thumbs down,’ it doesn’t mean anything. Now, I hope that you come! It doesn’t mean you necessarily have to like what I have up there. Now, where I’ve had a lot of successes, I’m getting people from both sides of the aisle. They’ve always said “he’s a right wing gossip-monger,” mainly because of Lewinsky and those years, which by the way are back. Why aren’t we seeing Hillary’s lovers? Excuse me. Why aren’t we seeing Hillary’s lovers?

Alex Jones: That’s a good question.

Matt Drudge: Where is the cover-up on this? So many issues that are suppressed on a daily basis. So, that’s what I try to do every morning.

Alex Jones: Incredible. Well, it’s amazing to have you here in Austin, Texas. And, I tell ya, you certainly know how to make an entrance. I’m in a seventy second break, and I turn around, and there’s Matt Drudge, just boom! (laughter) I tell ya! I almost had a heart attack, a good one. My cousin said he’s never seen me look like that. What was the word, Buckley, you used? No, it was flabbergasted. I was flabbergasted. He used the word flabbergasted. Well, I tell ya, this is, like, the biggest Christmas present, early, ever, because I just admire true independence. And, I gotta tell ya Matt, and you know this with your crew, and Congress knows this; we wouldn’t have won some of these gun battles, some of these border battles, some of these energy battles, and we’ve lost some too, but, but we would have lost so many of them if it wasn’t for the focal point, and even the White House, and the Democrats, admit that, I know you’re saying you’re non-partisan, I mean, I would guess you’re more of a libertarian, correct me if I’m wrong, you’re just a freedom guy…

Matt Drudge: I can’t be controlled! I cannot be controlled! There are no interests here, but what I see as the world events, period! That is the truth of the situation.

Alex Jones: Well, they hate the fact that they can’t control the agenda. The Pentagon has briefings with the head of psyops, as you know, saying “we’ve got to stop Drudge changing the subject and showing when we’re lying!” I mean, that’s when you know, that’s crazy town when you get… What is it like? Is it surreal to think back to something you started back in the early nineties has now grown into this?

Matt Drudge: Well, no, because it’s been every day. So, it’s, just like, it’s happened so organically. It started with one reader. I don’t know who that one reader was, but it started with one reader. I’ve never placed an ad anywhere, ever. This has all been a true, organic reader to reader to reader to reader. Yes, I dabbled in the corporate with the Fox News show and the Clear Channel radio show for nine years. But, even that, the website was on its own terms, and remains so to this very minute.

Alex Jones: Well, you’ve only gotten bigger since you stopped, uhh…

Matt Drudge: Well, I don’t know, because this is another thing. The measurements that we have, this is another bogus thing. Yesterday they released on the A.P.A Wire, Twitter followers. Hillary is the queen of the Twitters with 4.9 million. They don’t say how many are fake. They don’t know how many there are.

Alex Jones: They admit the First Lady’s is like eighty percent fake.

Matt Drudge: Well, the A.P. did not do that, Alex. So, this whole thing, this whole socials, these socials. You know, Beats One Music, which I’m obsessed with, which has been launched on Apple, uhh, which is probably one of the best things they’ve done since Steve Jobs died. One radio station. Interesting. They don’t know how many listeners they have. I heard some streams, they were down to five thousand an hour. This whole social media stuff is bogus. Facebook, we have two billions users? This is garbage! This is designed to demoralize the individual. I’ll never have two billion followers! This Internet is what you make of it. It’s the same now as it was in the beginning. I remember having this argument with Brit Hume once live on C-SPAN. He goes “oh, the Internet’s all UFOs and all this crap,” and I said “no, the Internet is what you make of it.” But, in the beginning they were dismissing the Internet. They were poo-pooing it!

Alex Jones: Isn’t that good for us, that for so long they were in arrogant denial? And, they seem kind of like they’re still in arrogant denial.

Matt Drudge: No. Now they make it over in their image! Now it’s these endless, monotonous Tweets. Meaningless! Meaningless! Uhh, to me. It’s just a lot of gnats, a lot of confusion. When the reality of the situation is life on Earth has not changed. We need facts, we need events, we need specifics on things, not all this confusion. It’s almost, they’ve made the Internet over in their image, these corporations, and I think they’re failing quite…

Alex Jones: Skip the break. Skip the break. Oh, sorry Matt, go ahead, I had to interrupt. You say you think they’re failing?

Matt Drudge: I think they’re failing to the point, this is a whole other discussion on how sick are the American people right now? I’ve been saying they could put Hillary Clinton’s brain in a jar in the Oval Office, and she’d be elected. People are really sick. I think you know this deep in your soul, and this is why you get demoralized here on this very set.

Alex Jones: Yeah, I shouldn’t, yeah.

Matt Drudge: People are sick! How they’ve got here, you’ve been on a wonderful arc over, almost decades now, explaining why people are, and have become so sick. That being said, people are willing to be made over in the image of these corporations. The reason there’s so much anger online, also, is a newspaper like the Washington Post will leave a comment section. They don’t care what you’re saying. They don’t care what you’re thinking. That’s why you get this anger, that “oh, I have to be,” you know “I’m out here as a citizen, and I’m operating in their playground.” Make your own playground! The reason I’m here, Alex, is because you’ve made your own playground. This is a figment of your imagination, and the Drudge Report is mine. It is a very simple thesis; you are what you dream you are and become. And, I wish Americans would get out of the sickness and just become greater.

Alex Jones: Well, that’s profound. I mean, because, if we start creating our own maps, our own world, our own vision, then there’s no way for these cultural tyrants to program us. And, that’s why they’re pushing so hard to get more outrageous. I

Driving traffic to twitter and other enemies helps them. After they improve their infrastructures, drive traffic to freedom loving tech

are we too stupid to build our own social media and other tech infrastructure?

Parler does not count because it requires a phone number, blocking people who want the news but who also want a lower level of engagement, and who want PRIVACY

it is their playground not yours, not ours

I do not have a twitter or FB account