Civil war isn't the answer.
That is what many people said in the 1770s as well. I suggest you go read Patrick Henry's address to the VA House of Burgesses, aka his "give me liberty or give me death" speech.
I don't find what's funny about honest American's being able to provide for their families.
I don't find anything funny about it either. If your ability to provide for your family is dependent on me not being able to provide for my family then I couldn't care less. The police swore an oath. They are not fulfilling that oath, that makes them completely useless and a burden on society.
They had no problem using the full weight of their ability to use force to arrest people playing catch with their kids in a park. They had no problem arresting people who were just trying to keep their businesses open. They have no problem kicking peoples' doors in and shooting them for having a tiny bit of marijuana. Yet when violent rioters are burning their entire city down they can't figure out what to do?
Cops are not the enemy.
They are when they choose the side of the enemy.
The problem lies with the elected officials in those communities that refuse to act to stop the violence.
So again, I ask you, did the police swear an oath to do the bidding of the elected officials? Or did they swear an oath to uphold and enforce the laws as passed? Their refusal to uphold law and order is a violation of their oath. If that is their choice then so be it, but good men and women are not going to sit back and do nothing as their lives are destroyed just because the police are unwilling to do their job.
If the police are unwilling to do the job that we are paying them to do, then we shouldn't pay them anymore. Period.
But what you're asking is that for the vast majority of regular cops to throw away their livelihood and ability to care for and protect their families.
Thats a funny way of saying that I want them to uphold the oath that they took. Did they swear to carry out the orders of their superiors? Or did they take an oath to enforce the laws as passed? What about the livelihoods of the people whose businesses are being destroyed, looted, and burned? What about the families of the people that they swore to "protect and serve"?
They will see no support from their leadership if they disobey orders.
That defense didn't work for the Nazis and its not going to work here.
If the police in this country want to follow orders then they should be prepared for the consequences of following those orders. Never forget that all that it takes for evil men to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
If the police want to sit on their hands and watch their cities being burned to the ground then we don't need them. Its long past time for them to choose a side. Do they want to choose the side of the people who will gladly support them? Or do they want to choose the side of the people who would gladly put their heads on a spike?
Respect is earned, not given. Time for the police to start earning the respect back that they once had. if they are not willing to then we will handle it ourselves.
For pistols and SBRs only. There is an exception for rifles right in the code.
Yep, only applies to pistols and short barreled rifles and shotguns. Retarded internet lawyers would have every jail in the State of Wisconsin full of 17 year olds on the first day of hunting season if their mis-reading of the statute was correct.
Everybody on this site needs to get one thing through their heads. The police do not give a fuck about you. If the people that sign their paychecks tell them to stand there and watch commies burn down their town, they will stand by and watch commies burn down their town. If they tell them to come kick your door in and arrest you for wrongthink, they will come kick your door in. When the DA tells them to go and arrest Kyle on first degree murder charges they will go and arrest him.
They do not give a shit about you. If 10% of the police in this country had balls as big as Kyle Rittenhouse then he wouldn’t be sitting in jail right now. They care about their paychecks and their pensions, that’s it.
This is the next step. While what Kyle did was heroic and honorable, it is not productive to kill 2 Communists. What we need to start doing is detaining them. If our justice system won’t find out who is behind these riots then we will have to.
When we find out and have evidence, it is time to go to the source and end this once and for all.
Ok, so maybe I’m just late to the party here and everyone else already gets this. Isn’t it ironic that every single one of these people seems to have an extensive criminal record? Is it by chance, or are there people targeting these felons and paying them to participate in these events?
I just find it hard to believe that a white dude that repeatedly shouts “shoot me nigga, bust on me fo real” and then proceeds to attack a guy with a rifle has the IQ or the social wherewithal to be at a BLM rally.
This children is what finding out looks like. Look at the rage coming out because someone would dare stand up and prevent them from looting and destroying with impunity.
These people are losing their minds because they just got dick slapped by a 17 year old. They are realizing that they have pushed people a little too far and now they may very well be fucked.
Notice how they all point out that the police were handing out water to the armed Patriots. Their smooth brains are slowly starting to process the fact that the police were there to protect them from us.
Have you ever seen a chihuahua barking at a Rottweiler through a fence? The chihuahua acts like they would eat that Rottweiler up if it weren't for that fence. This is what it looks like when the Rottweiler has had enough and starts shredding the fence.
They need to feel the heat. I don't see any way that this kid gets convicted, but the prosecutors need to understand the shitstorm that will descend upon them if he does.
If the police and politicians hadn't abdicated their responsibility to preserve the peace then this kid wouldn't even be in this situation. They caused this, and then they want to railroad him? I say hell no.
It needs to be made very clear that if he gets railroaded that 50k+ armed protestors will descend upon the facility that he is being held at and nobody will be allowed to enter or leave until he is released unharmed. If one single hair is harmed on this boy then all hell needs to break loose.
The problem up until now has been that while we outnumber them and have superior firepower, we have not shown up in real numbers. How many Patriots showed up in Wisconsin? Two dozen? Against several hundred rioters. This emboldens them and, up until now, they have bullied their way to at least a stalemate.
I pray to God that a significant show of force will change things. If 10k Patriots had shown up last night things would have been way different. Remember the Bundy's in Nevada? There was such an overwhelming show of force that the Feds tucked tail and ran. Remember the march in VA in January (it feels like it was 10 years ago) to protest gun bills? 40k Patriots showed up and openly defied the Governor and they had to back down.
We must keep optics in mind, but if the situation becomes hot we need to be able to end it quickly and with overwhelming force. We did not ask for this fight, it has been thrust upon us. We are going to be demonized and chastised no matter what, just look at the coverage Kyle is getting. We must keep the powder dry until all out war is inevitable, because once it starts we cannot stop until the cancer has been excised.
Ever notice that they will rally and circle the wagons around their own? They will protect and defend criminals, murderers, pedophiles, it doesn't matter. Are we willing to stand up for our own?
They are going to try and railroad this young man. Donate to his defense fund. Rally around him, its time to circle the wagons. If we keep letting them throw the book at us then we will have lost the fight before it even really starts.
Make no mistake, they aren't prosecuting Kyle because they believe he did something wrong. They are prosecuting him to intimidate you. They want you to be afraid to stand when the fight comes to your door.
Our ancestors pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. They knew that if they lost the fight they would be executed, their property seized, and they would be remembered as traitors to the crown. When the crown tried to intimidate them they sent off the most eloquent "fuck you" in history. They all signed their names to it knowing full well what the ramifications would be.
This is not going to be a walk in the park. If you're scared then stay home, but the fight will come to you regardless. These people are hell bent on destruction and subjugation. We either push back and end this for a few generations, or our children will wake up homeless and enslaved in the country our ancestors fought and died to create.
At this point I see zero chance of it ending peacefully. They have unfortunately put us in this position. They are not going to back down. They got caught off guard in Wisconsin, but they will regroup and adapt.
I know people on this site don't want to hear this, but we are fighting an uphill battle. While we have been talking shit on the internet, they have been out on the battlefield. They are better organized, they are more coordinated. They have the prosecutors in their pockets, as well as the entire media establishment. They also have an established chain of command.
We have a decided advantage in manpower and firepower, but that advantage means nothing if we are not united and organized. I saw someone earlier today mention having a way on this site for us to post and organize based on States. The fight is coming and we are woefully underprepared.
We need to immediately begin organizing, because every day that passes is an opportunity lost. When it comes to our door it will be too late and you will just be one person fighting a mob. United we will never be defeated, but divided we will be picked off one by one. This is our Lexington moment. The enemy is at the gate, its time to stop talking shit and start getting busy.
I think we need to stop and appreciate the efficiency and accuracy as well. As far as I can tell he shot 4 times and got two head shots, plus a body shot. That all while alone and under attack. This is why you train, its why you train more than just shooting from a bench.
They couldn't handle a 17 year old, they sure as shit don't want the smoke from the rest of us.
Unfortunately I think you are correct. I don't see this ending peacefully. Either Trump loses in November and we lose our country, or Trump wins in November and this violence and destruction amplifies.
I don't seek violence, but I will not die on my knees.
I do too. I pray every day that God give me the strength to do what I must, to be at peace with what I can't change, and the wisdom to know the difference.
Unfortunately with every passing day my hope that this can be resolved peacefully is slipping away. These people are hell bent on the destruction of everything I stand for. They are going to put a man that just wants to be left alone in a situation where I must take up arms to defend my beliefs and my way of life, and they have no idea how dangerous that is.
I don’t care what they consider me. I am not a savage and I believe every human life has value. If it comes to it then I am perfectly willing to do what must be done, bit I’m not going to sit around and pretend it’s a pleasurable thing.
Yes if it was a pedophile I would feel the same way. You do what must be done, and you find peace with it, but if it brings you pleasure then you are no better than them.
We are all programmed to kill when necessary, it’s human nature. The people that take joy in it are wired wrong.
Haha “Cowardly, out of shape, poor uneducated rednecks”.
Sweetheart, we’re you not watching the news today? A 17 year old just went HAM on 3 of your faggot buddies last night. You are going to need a little bit more than your bare hands.
If this kid gets convicted of 1st degree murder and there is not an armed militia surrounding the jail until he is freed then everyone on this site is chickenshit and our ancestors should be ashamed.
Go ahead and convict him for this bullshit, we dare you.
To attempt to get a plea. They threw the book at him because he is 17 and they are trying to scare the hell out of him in order to get him to plead guilty to SOMETHING. He has a crack legal team in place and he will walk on all charges including the weapons charge.