There's a few important differences between the Green Party and Libertarian Party:
- The Green Party only gets 1 or 2% of the vote per state. There are 18 states where the Libertarians top 4% of the vote
- The Green Party only gets turnout in states where it's a Democrat landslide anyway, and there's no chance of changing the outcome. The Libertarian Party however, is alive and well even in swing states. Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Minnesota would all lean red without it (that's 30 Electoral Votes)
- The Green Party tends to bow out whenever it's an important election. Whenever there's actually a chance they split the vote and the Republicans win, the Green Party disappears
The Libertarian Party is a serious issue.
HW was indeed a plant.
Like Trump, Raegan was an outsider candidate deemed too "risky" for the establishment so (like Pence) HW was chosen to look like the unexciting, government type to round out the Presidential ticket. In both cases, what a mistake...at the very least, they both could have chosen a NEW vice presidential pick for the second term.
For those looking for "controlled opposition" however look no further than the Libertarian Party.
Yes, we do have Republicans that stab us in the back over and over again, but the Libertarian Party exists purely to split the conservative vote. It has been a thorn in our side going back decades now.
We've reached the point that even absolute airheads are calling out the corruption.
But you still have so many friends/family who would bow down and kiss Biden's feet. The worst part of 2002 was watching people you love and trust(ed) sell themselves out completely.
I knew it from the moment I found out he's an ex-Catholic.
No one leaves the Catholic Church these days. Yes, the Church has a lot of problems but when you look at Protestantism's choose-your-own-adventure cafeteria of 10,000,000 denominations, it becomes immediately clear to you that (for better or worse) the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ.
A man who gives up on fighting for Christ's Church is not a man to be trusted.
I know there's a lot of anti-Catholic propaganda, so I forgive Protestants who grew up outside the one true Church (and pray for them to come home and help us fight in the trenches) but Pence is a man born in the trenches - he was raised Catholic - and yet he fled into the arms of a false church.
He had the courage to do it, now we need the courage to do something about it.
Bingo.
If Biden is installed, learn your lesson. If Biden is installed, the lesson is that the time for peaceful processes (like voting) is over.
I'm not seeing it the way you're saying.
Gangs are a great example of how being in combat (but fatherless) does not lead to based thinking. Also as for "widespread" you should look at statistics on fatherless homes - sounds like there are way more than you think.
Like I said before, I think you have a point. I just think you're taking it too far.
I have friends with fathers, and friends without fathers. The friends who had fathers that took them out hunting, or had them play contact sports (like football), or hell splitting wood or working on a farm - those friends of mine seem ready to fight.
My friends without fathers are the issue. Period.
Now, if you had a kid who grew up without a father, and then that kid enlisted and learned how to be a man from being in the military...that does happen, yes. But that's more like a backup plan.
Tulsi Gabbard?
You are correct that there used to be more parties, but that is because it takes time for plurality to settle on two parties. Once it is down to two parties, it stays two parties forever.
This is a video that explains why
Man...I'm trying to help you understand.
We have to deal with the world as it is. It would be amazing if Trump could start a third party and the GOP collapsed. But look at history - that's not what happens (remember Ross Perot?) You are arguing with mathematical laws.
I linked you to that Libertarian chart earlier. We are already dealing with a third party that is splitting the conservative vote. And there's the Constitution Party that picks up half a percent too.
The only reason someone like Clinton or Biden even has a chance of winning Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Minnesota, or Maine is because 2 to 10% of our votes are being flushed down the toilet.
No party is ever going to be perfect. A lot of people in the GOP suck, you're right. But with how our voting system works, you get to choose between two parties. Just two. That's just how it works out mathematically when you're using plurality voting.
At the end of the day, history has shown again and again that all third parties do is split one side and deliver victory to their enemies on a platter.
We really don't need to learn that lesson again.
Yes it was ugly, but ultimately he won.
What would you have preferred? Trump running third party in 2016 so that Clinton won?
remember what happened to the Tea Party?
Yes, seven years after the Tea Party started the GOP nominated Donald Trump for President. It was a huge success
What was your point again?
I think if the founders were alive today they would have tallying livestreamed.
After all, there's no identifying information on a ballot.
The bipartisan system is broken, but the solution is not to start throwing your votes in the trash.
We should be working on voter reform, hopefully with our momentum on addressing voter fraud we can start talking about the way we vote and maybe solve the bipartisan aspect of it. Under our current system, voting third party is not a solution and only makes things worse.
Voting third party will do nothing but dissolve our efforts - that's what I'm saying.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
We're not the ones asking for war...they are!
No it's not.
Trump has around a 95% approval rating among Republicans. When you are 95% healthy you remove the tumor, you don't grow a whole new body and give control to the 5%.
Free and fair voting can resume when elections are run fairly:
- Results posted publicly by midnight local time
- Pen and paper only
- In-person only
- Photo ID
For all you ladypedes out there..
Do not be afraid if the men around you are getting riled up and ready to act. This is God answering your prayers. He was never going to send down a meteor or strike Biden with lightning - that would be the easy way out.
God wants men to be men. Glory be to God
I do think you have a point, but you're taking it too far.
You are saying war is necessary for a functional society...War is necessary because without war men never have a crucible within which to become fully-formed men who can cut through and confront bullshit.
That is false. There are many challenges in life that can form a fully-formed man, whether that be taking risks in a career (like starting a small business) learning skills or hell, playing sports. If your theory was true, then only veterans could become fully-formed men and that is most certainly untrue.
The way boys learn how to be men is from watching men being men. They follow the example of father figures in their life.
The reason boys are failing to become men now is because men of previous generations chose to stop being men. They abandoned their posts. They ran away from the responsibility of raising a family, it was easier to get divorced and more fun to sleep around. So like Peter Pan they used birth control, abortion etc. to remain boys and bachelors forever.
And since they chose not to be fathers, their sons never learned to be men. Instead they chose perpetual boyhood, like their fathers before them (Monkey see, monkey do.) Then another generation goes by and another and next thing you know...no one remembers how to be men anymore.
We don't need war to make boys into men. What we need is men to be men.
The only solution is to step up to the plate and prove them wrong.
You can't fake masculinity - many Boomers have tried to - but most are overblown balloons. Never too late to join the fight though. If there's any Boomers out there with regrets, you still have time to redeem yourself.
Yes.
Now do TFW you remember all anti-gun legislation is unconstitutional and therefore it is your duty to ignore it.
To summarize
Democrats in 2019 - "Noooooo Trump can't block people on Twitter, it's a public forum and that would be a violation of free speech"
Democrats in 2020 - "Hooray Twitter finally blocked Trump's account...what are you talking about freedom of speech it's a private company"