That I don’t know. I’d say the county recorder. And the AG is involved with this at a criminal level investigation.

The treasurer is out of the loop because he never got them. And officially so far nobody has a chain of custody. That’s why Borelli, Finchem, and Peterson have went to go for a criminal investigation via the AG. This is a crime scene.

These are highly technical things they don’t quite understand. I’m trying to edify them on different tactics we can take without original ballots. They still can’t stop us if even all we get is the tampered with machines.

Kind of hard to say, the county treasurer went all the way to the AG to get the ballots over and over and over, he’s a good guy but nobody listened to him. Board of Supervisors would be my best guess, but I really don’t know what happened to the originals as far as chain of custody.

Yes

That is true, and I’ve CONFIRMED that to be true 100% at this point. And the machines were tampered with heavily. We have missing hard drives, reset machines, just quite bad. On top of you have “auditor infighting” and Fann backpedaling. I’m pretty close to a private lawsuit a la Bailey via proxy in Maricopa.

Update: ASOG just told me the ballots are being moved? We were to do it at the MCTEC building where the ballots already were supposed to be. I believe these ballots are print outs of the digital scans which are next to useless, something is up, AG is applying major pressure.

I have, basically there’s an issue I can’t get into much besides some people (not politicians) are grandstanding who have sway. And Fann is still back peddling, but ASOG is still hopeful.

The ballots are print outs from the digital copies as far as I've seen evidence for. So, worthless.

I don’t think the entire senate will- but watch for Finchem and Borelli.

Nobody ;). But I was there early for advisory reasons and then to begin the audit which still hasn’t taken place.

Even if they were copies of the originals auditing the paper would be next to impossible, and the second issue is chain of custody, like when were they printed, WHY were they printed, etc.

So ASOG is the only company who has an offer of intent. It’d be a 7-10 day audit, 7 auditors, asking for 500K ballots, and 300 machines, asked for $10k which just covers expenses of travel, food, cars, etc.

We still do not have an official start and end date, but the last that was talked about was mid March. Fann is causing problems, and another..”auditor” is causing problems.

There’s a lot of issues at play. I can’t speak of them publicly because this person knows what they’re doing and they’re not a politician- but they have political stroke. The legislature as a whole has some members with cold feet, but the Borelli’s, Finchem’s, Peterson’s are as strong as ever.

ASOG’s proposal is 500k of the ballots, and all 300 machines. $10,000 for the entire 7-10 day audit with 7-8 auditors (that barely covers lodging, food, car rentals, etc).

Yeah resume is the first thing, even resumes of who you employ. We have about every certification, experience, security clearance you could think of haha. Some real genius level guys employed under ASOG’s banner.

And oh yeah, we provided the a scope of the audit and methodology, and we answered step by step- point by point what each is done for. You can’t just go, “give me everything, trust me I will make sure I do it right”. They did all- even democrats ask why we need to do X, or what Y is.

And I’ve had companies try to provide me what I will be working with. For instance like a casino, “hey here’s 3 machines”. Nope. What we’d do is, find a percentage that makes sense for the type of material we’re auditing and the purpose, and say again it’s a casino, well walk on the floor a random day even- and pull say 3 out of 12 machines randomly for say a WPU test.

And I know exactly what YouTube math genius you’re talking about, he’s an absolute moron. He said because he “showed one (election fraud statistical analysis) was wrong, than they’re all wrong- no need to do the rest”. Absurd.

Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG). Did the Antrim audit with them, best of the best.

This crap is fever fuel. I saw it in action, it’s as secure as an unlocked barn door and the ease at which it can be manipulated and also hidden is mind blowing. Closed source- of course lol.

They won’t. At least not as a collective. Right now I’ve bent sent pictures of the “paper ballots” which are the digital image ballots basically printed out. These would not be sufficient material to audit in any way.

Online voting that a literal 10 year old could hack. They want it nationwide.

In an audit of this magnitude? When I’ve even done larger Fortune 500 companies, you may have 3 different audits running back to back or in some cases concurrently. It is all based on pinpoint accuracy, so you’ll have two companies say, who are completely independent from one another perform separate audits on separate dates the same thing,

So if I go in to say a casino (just for a simple example) “you have a vulnerability on your network switch but everything else is good,” but the other company already reported a vulnerability on the switch and also said the slots WPU (win per unit) is abnormally high, the casino will come back to me and ask for my slot audit findings, and there’s, and compare to see why one audit is reporting an abnormal WPU and one isn’t.

As far as auditing guidelines, laws, regulations, etc, there are a TON of governing bodies. If you don’t even have a CISA certification you couldn’t audit a lemonade stand. That’s why I’ve been trying really hard to be nice here with Jovan because I do like the guy, I even hope maybe he can be involved, but I can’t go be a pilot for a passenger plane tomorrow even if I invented planes, auditing isn’t just knowing about something, it’s about professionalism, credibility, accuracy, planning. I’ve met tons of people who know their shit but can’t audit themselves out of a paper bag, it is it’s own unique science.

If they have actual experience absolutely. I can contact him see what he’s about, that’s the type of resume you need to perform these audits though.

I like Jovan, it’s just simply you can’t perform an audit of this magnitude with no actual experience performing it no matter how simple it is. I bet any above average technologically intelligent person could do what I do, but for your findings to have credibility, you can’t just say “I invented X”. Everyone needs to know you’ve performed these tests before and what your protocol is, if those findings were accurate when checked, etc.

I still hope the guy can perform the audit regardless of this, but he can’t be the first guy in the door and on top make demands (IE, I need every ballot I can’t do a fraction!”) when he doesn’t have leverage or the credibility in the scope of auditing to do so. Auditing companies I know who audit for instance gambling, it’s widely utilized that you start off with a randomized fractional allotment of say the slot machines on the floor and depending on the outcome, if there’s a high enough issue you then audit higher and higher fractional sizes until you can ensure your findings to be credible.

I get the point “oh if you audit all of them there’s no room for debate,” that sounds good but logistically that’s not how things are done. Usually say a casino again, you may have X number of machines audited by Bills company, and say Bill has a 20% error rate, than X number machines are done by Bobs company, so that you can compare the sample size results, and corroborate one another’s results, that Bill did not incorrectly do a number of possible different things that skewed his test.

There’s just a lot more to this, and Jovan wants to just keep simplifying down and down “to make it easier for everyone”, it really isn’t how auditing works in the least and that’s not his fault, his line of thinking would make sense to someone who doesn’t audit things for a living haha.

You’d think so. But the latter is what is there thinking.

UPDATE: This has nothing to do with the Maricopa audit first off, but I just need to write this somewhere-

You think Dominion was bad? Well, I just found out who this “Dominion 2.0” is.

Voatz. Research it. That’s what’s coming. It was pilot ran in 2018. I just got the audit data from it. I can’t give it to ANYONE yet, but please research Voatz, and tell me if you want that it to be the future of this county- because it will be in 2022 and 2024 how you vote. Almost nationwide.

Right now there’s only one being selected, but we’ve always recommended as many as possible. Jovan has also been saying no one can touch the ballots before him, so it poses an issue there too. And money is not an issue, our offer was so small ASOG will have to come out of pocket. Of course though I don’t know what he asked for because he never even had a verbal deal to audit AZ’s ballots.

Just think, it’d be like me saying when the Enron scandal came up, step aside, let me audit Enron’s books. I have no applied professional experience in auditing financial records, Jovan has never (to my knowledge) audited ballots or any paper for a large company, period. You can’t have every Tom, Dick, and Harry say they should be auditing.

There’s also some calls into question with him saying he was shot at in Georgia (no police report, nothing that I could find), and him telling people he’s the auditor for AZ. He was never even offered a contract. That lends to credibility.

He’s whipping people into a frenzy in AZ and he may be the best guy for the job, but having no actual applied experience in auditing paper for anyone and telling fibs does not help his case.

Oh that’s one of many, many “issues” with their adjudication methodology.