You could tell it was a set up because within hours of the crowd being dispersed politicians were back in the Senate read out long prepared speech about the 'terrible violence'. Not only that but they had clearly planned for the violence to be much worse, because the speeches seemed hysterical given what had actually happened. When they shot Ashli they clearly expected and planned for the crowd to riot, they were desperate for everyone in the crowd to know what happened, but they did not expect Trump supporters to be wise to it, call all the agitators for the actors they were, and not take the bait.
I've heard it said if the left did not have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
Based, but they still haven't sued Twitter for damages.
/r/jailbait was less of a free speech issue than an operations issue. The reason it was banned is rather intricate, but if you understand reddit, you'll get it:
First, something most people don't understand: naked pictures of underage girls (or boys) are not necessarily child porn. A naked kid in a bathtub is not child porn. A 17-year-old girl flashing her boobs is not child porn. Child porn has a somewhat complex definition involving pre-pubescence, intent, and context. Most people don't know this nuance of the law, but do you know who does know it well? Pedophiles.
The reason child porn is so serious is mainly because it is evidence of a crime, like if you have a picture of a 17-year-old having sex, it might be depicting them having sex with someone much older, and you need to report that. It's not necessarily illegal per se (the laws are changing now though; but this is what they were at the time).
As a result, the pedos know exactly what IS legal and what is not, and on public sites like reddit, they are very careful to only share legal stuff. Like 17-year-olds flashing their boobs but not having sex, like maybe they are just at a European topless beach or something. So that is the kind of stuff being posted on /r/jailbait. Because jailbait gets you put in jail if you have sex with her, not if you look at a naked picture of her. That's the jail part.
Ok, so this subreddit gets popular, and reddit checks with its lawyers, who at the time are Advance Publication's lawyers, a big media company who knows their First Amendment shit inside and out, and these old, conservative lawyers say, "Nope, this stuff is definitely legal, you are in the clear."
Ok! So /r/jailbait is totally legal! And the mods are scrupulous about keeping it legal! No problems, right?
Here's what happens: the subreddits gets super popular. News articles say, "Huge jailbait forum on reddit! Horrifying!" Guess what happens? Some of the people who come are pearl-clutchers, but most of the people who read that are other pedos, so they're like "awesome! reddit has jailbait! I'm all over that!"
You know the thing about how "when a subreddit becomes a default, it gets ruined?" Because a ton of new users flood in and start posting content that doesn't really respect the rules (or traditions, or nuanced meaning (c.f. /r/cringe)) of the subreddit?
So these carpetbagger pedos start posting a TON of content, and some of it is illegal. But some of it isn't. But because it's a flood of content, the mods are overwhelmed and can't moderate it. When mods can't moderate, the duty to moderate gets kicked up to the admins. Especially when it's a legal-or-not issue, it HAS to be moderated. Like, if there's a ton of shitty content in /r/cringe, that's fine - the bad stuff still isn't illegal. In /r/jailbait, the bad/wrong stuff is illegal.
This means that a reddit admin has to look at every single picture being posted to /r/jailbait.
The team was like, five people back then. And ONE unlucky person had to look at ALL these pictures, and make determinations like "well, the growth patterns of her pubic hair probably indicate that she is post-pubescent, so this one is probably legal..." or "OMG this is clearly horrible child abuse" and shit like that.
Well, having to do that 24/7 (because the flood doesn't stop) is HORRIBLE FOR YOUR SOUL. No one wants to look at a stream of pictures that are already not so great, and every so often there is an AWFUL one that shocks you, and you have to keep doing it constantly because there's no end to it.
So they were like, that's impossible for us to handle, we have to shut that down, and moved the line to "no sexualized pictures of minors." And the thing is about that rule is - if you post a sexualized picture of a minor, that's NOT ILLEGAL. It's (probably not) child porn. It's just against the rules. So they can now police that, and make all the mods police it (if you don't police it, they shut down your subreddit), and if there's any slip-ups, at least nothing illegal has happened, unlike with /r/jailbait where you had to police everything perfectly. You just catch the slip-up, and ban it, and you're okay - you have a margin of error. No one's soul has to be crushed doing this horrible job.
There are literally reddit admins who have PTSD from this.
To answer the other question, no, I don't think politically-minded subs affect voting patterns around reddit. They're just lost in the noise. People who are involved or care a lot about it think it's a BIG DEAL but the reality is frankly that no one cares. The advertisers don't care, they're just like "show this ad to as many people as you can." The days of advertisers really caring about "what kind of content their ad appears next to" are way over - they are savvy about social media now.
People get all crazy about this. The reality is that the universe (and the advertising world, and the rest of reddit) don't fucking care about you. Did you know, for example, that MOST new reddit employees who would call themselves "heavy users of reddit" join the company and have no idea what SRS is? It really is a tiny insular thing. I was a heavy user of reddit, going back to 2005 when they launched, and I didn't even know about SRS until I joined. Like, I think that one time someone mentioned "ShitRedditSays" so I checked out the subreddit and thought, "I don't understand what this subreddit is about" and clicked Back and continued reading about bitcoin or cat pictures. That was it.
As for advertising, advertisers are just "can you get me eyeballs" and maybe "can you target some people who like Samsung phones" kind of stuff. That's about as far as it goes.
(My info on advertisers is only current up to 2014, when I left)
Considering the then son now daughter started wearing nappies and dressing as a girl by the age of 13, I'd say the apple fell straight down and hit the ground hard.
It's now gone mainstream: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-reddit-censoring-the-spectator-/amp
#Is Reddit censoring The Spectator?
What's going on over at Reddit? The popular chatroom, which bills itself as 'the front page of the internet', has been accused of blocking Spectator articles. Earlier this week, the most popular UK politics page was suspended from public view and users who posted a link to a Spectator article were blocked.
The article in question mentions one Aimee Challenor, a former ‘rising star’ of the Green party and transgender activist, who left the party in disgrace after she appointed her father — a violent paedophile — as her election agent.
According to the moderators on the Reddit group r/UKPolitics, Aimee has since been hired by the tech firm, which is now zealously blocking content about her. One Redditor who posted a Spectator article containing a brief mention of Challenor found themselves mysteriously 'suspended’ from Reddit.
That user was subsequently reinstated after r/UKPolitics raised concerns with the tech company. As the moderators put it, 'It later became apparent that Reddit has hired this individual as a Reddit admin, and were banning people from discussing her past to protect their employee from harassment.' Mr S put the allegations to Reddit — that Challenor is now working at the company and using her position to have unfavourable articles removed. Their spokesperson told me:
Earlier this month, a Reddit employee was the target of harassment and doxxing (sharing of personal or confidential information). Reddit activated standard processes to protect the employee from such harassment, including initiating an automated moderation rule to prevent personal information from being shared.
The moderation rule was too broad, and our systems suspended a moderator who posted content that was perceived to include personal information. After investigating the situation, we reinstated the moderator the same day. We are continuing to review all the details of the situation to ensure that we protect users and employees from doxxing — including those who may have a public profile — without mistakenly taking action on non-violating content.
Was the censorship purely automatic or did Challenor play a role in Reddit's removal of damaging information about her? The article itself, by Julie Bindel, only mentions her in passing. Whatever 'systems' Reddit was using seem to have removed any link to that article and banned any person who posted it. Bear in mind that the information about Challenor wasn't posted on Reddit itself but on The Spectator's own website. Mr S has some doubts over whether it really was the 'system' that was doing the deleting and blocking...
It is worth mentioning too just how disturbing the allegations about Aimee and her father are. Back in 2018, she quit the Greens after it emerged she had hired her father, David Challenor, as her election agent despite the fact he been charged with 22 sexual offences. These charges included the rape and torture of a 10-year-old girl, something Aimee neglected to tell the party. The details of that abuse are horrific; they include the child being suspended from the attic rafters as Aimee's father — dressed in a nappy — carried out his sadistic sexual crimes.
He was jailed for 22 years after being found guilty of 20 of those 22 offences. Aimee subsequently quit the party and accused the Greens of transphobia against her. At the time she said:
I cannot be held responsible for the actions of my father. I am not to blame for his behaviour. Yes, he was my election agent. This was one of a number of ways I was seeking to reconcile my relationship with my father after coming out of care. On reflection, I can understand that it was unacceptable for me to appoint my dad as my election agent when he had been arrested.
She then briefly joined the Coventry Liberal Democrats — and was promptly suspended by Lib Dem head office after yet another paedophile scandal. A social media account belonging to her partner, Nathaniel Knight, admitted to having written 'smut featuring minors’, among other sordid horrors. The unfortunate Aimee condemned the messages, saying her partner’s account had been hacked and announcing she was quitting politics.
Mr S has attempted to get in contact with Aimee but to no avail. In the meantime, anyone looking to know more about her past behaviour can read this piece by Melanie McDonagh — or you can read the offending Julie Bindel article here...
See, the more I hear about the case of David Challenor, the more I think it was actually Aimee that was guilty. What are the chances that both father and son have exactly the same fetishes?
I remember some of the mods of tranny subs over there regularly got caught trying to arrange meet up with youngsters to sell them hormones.
No worries. As long as it's public knowledge, all is good. Here is the list of subs that have gone private in solidarity:
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/r/AbruptChaos
/r/awfuleverything
/r/comedyheaven
/r/Cringetopia
/r/cursedcomments
/r/insaneparents
/r/rareinsults
/r/softwaregore
/r/thatHappened
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/r/AmongUs
/r/Bossfight
/r/ComedyCemetery
/r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR
/r/TikTokCringe
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/r/amazonreviews
/r/DreamWasTaken
/r/jobs
/r/killthecameraman
/r/NintendoWaifus
/r/pinkfloyd
/r/theydidthemonstermath
/r/yiff
50,000+ Subscribers
/r/biologymemes
/r/DownvotedToOblivion
/r/foundthemobileuser
/r/hardwaregore
/r/osx
/r/SubsTakenLiterally
/r/TechNope
/r/TinyUnits
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/r/AlbumsInANutshell
/r/AliceRedlips
/r/AmouranthOnlyFans
/r/feic
/r/HoldMyBreedingTube
/r/TheMemersClub
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/r/twittermoment
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/r/DieOff
/r/discordbot
/r/walkman
Not Private but Posted Public Support
/r/SonicTheHedgehog link
The question that really needs to be asked here is how could a 60 year old overweight man get a 10 year old girl to play bondage games without the help of his daughter. She was clearly a victim, clearly Stockholm syndromed, and clearly groomed the 10 year old for her father.
Okay, thanks for stealing my post. https://patriots.win/p/12hl5KNQqC/reddit-drama-admins-go-scorched-/c/
Here is this article that triggered it all: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/something-rotten-at-the-heart-of It's concise and damning.
This is now blowing up. https://www.reddit.com/user/Blank-Cheque/comments/mbmthf/why_is_this_subreddit_private_see_here_for_answers/gryxpb0/
1,000,000+ Subscribers
/r/AbruptChaos
/r/awfuleverything
/r/comedyheaven
/r/Cringetopia
/r/cursedcomments
/r/insaneparents
/r/rareinsults
/r/softwaregore
/r/thatHappened
500,000+ Subscribers
/r/AmongUs
/r/Bossfight
/r/ComedyCemetery
/r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR
/r/TikTokCringe
100,000+ Subscribers
/r/amazonreviews
/r/DreamWasTaken
/r/jobs
/r/killthecameraman
/r/NintendoWaifus
/r/pinkfloyd
/r/theydidthemonstermath
/r/yiff
50,000+ Subscribers
/r/biologymemes
/r/DownvotedToOblivion
/r/foundthemobileuser
/r/hardwaregore
/r/osx
/r/SubsTakenLiterally
/r/TechNope
/r/TinyUnits
10,000+ Subscribers
/r/AlbumsInANutshell
/r/AliceRedlips
/r/AmouranthOnlyFans
/r/feic
/r/HoldMyBreedingTube
/r/TheMemersClub
5,000+ Subscribers
/r/twittermoment
1,000+ Subscribers
/r/DieOff
/r/discordbot
/r/walkman
Not Private but Posted Public Support
/r/SonicTheHedgehog link
PV/James has been a ray of light in a sea of shit to be honest. A true journalist.
Update 4:
Reddit admins appear to have edited a user's comment on another sub. Also the USA is awake now, so I can only assume reddit corporate is okay with the admin actions. I do not think this will be over soon.
They are Spezing the shit out of this.
I remember that story, it was supposed to be a huge bombshell that showed Trump was being dishonest about fraud. As usual, the lie has travel around the world for 2 months before the truth sets sail in the fine print of the back page. Scum.
It's a wedge issue, that's all they care about.
It would be an absolute gift to the fascist Left if Trump supporters started gunfights with law enforcement. Huge cry of "we told you so" from them.
I saw the Wokearatti using exactly the same language as Islamists regarding this edition. Threats to shut them down, etc.
Never mind the complete silence over creepy Biden.
Love capitalism, hate competition.