Nancy Pelosi On The Verge Of Losing Her Gavel
Fake news, by June 1 we'll have had 3 more special elections and likely the Dems will win 2 of them, undoing half of this.
Now if they lose one of those that they are expected to win, hoo boy, then things get interesting. Right now though? Meh.
Ya, I'm not saying that there wasn't any antifa agitators there, but I don't understand the push to distance what happened from us. If they were able to agitate it's because we were already there and already super pissed off.
Isn't it 216 vs 214 vs 5 empty if you count the defectors on team red?
Only the NON mRNA vaccines have problems????????????? Strange
Not strange. The MRNA stuff has been in development awhile and while it was completely fucking useless at what it was trying to do, it's pretty safe.
This stuff was rushed. I posted over a week ago about why I wouldn't get the J&J.
I like Star Trek. A lot. But the Federation was a communist society and the pursuit of wealth was left to alien punchlines who were racist/sexist capitalist caricatures that didn't let women wear clothing.
Star Trek was always communist. This guy is just really fucking slow.
Can't reach herd immunity if the lockdown doesn't end though.
Still not taking any of that shit, but I respect your choice and bodily autonomy!
That's ultimately what drove me here. I'm probably left of most of you, but I find the other side to be intolerant of differences. You guys could even get along with a liberal if they respected your right to have different opinions.
I do have one more question - you’re concerned about long term effects of COVID, but what about the long term effects of MRNA treatment? Say 5-10 years down the road?
It's more just that I can't imagine it doing anything other than wearing off down the road. There's just not that much to it. I'm not scared of covid long term side effects exactly either.... I think everyone is blowing all of it (the disease, the vaccine, the distancing, everything) way out of proportion. It's almost as if we've been conditioned by decades of MSM brainwashing to "go to our corners" and take the most extreme position possible in any situation. But if I had to pick I'd rather guinea pig myself with the long term effects of the vaccine than of covid.
CRISPR can actually mess with DNA. Like, we can use it for all sorts of creepy (but sometimes awesome) Frankenstein projects. It could even be used (in theory) to reprogram your cancer to stop replicating like mad or to make mosquitoes that can't make female babies (which is obviously awesome for ending malaria).
This is really, IMHO, very different. Nothing is being edited really, nothing is being changed. We're fooling you're immune system into thinking the vaccine is covid so that when it encounters real covid it starts killing it before you build up a viral load.
The MRNA vaccine is more like a target. Let's say you're learning to shoot somebody in the nuts. You get a target body in the range and practice firing at it. Or clay discs that we pretend are birds. It looks like the thing, it isn't the thing.
Essentially we're wrapping a strand of RNA is a sugar bubble. The immune cells nom it, use their ribosomes to read it, produce the antigens and then destroy it. The next time you encounter these sugar bubbles filled with targets will be long gone and will do nothing, unless it's covid in which case it'll shoot it in the nuts, just like it practiced.
Do you have a preference among the vaccines? I'm not a doctor (I'm an RN) and I work in a hospital that does medical research (primarily cancer). So while vaccines are not my area of expertise I definitely feel I "get it" more than the average person.
Based on my own research I'm going to say that I think that it's more likely that you and will both die of covid in the next 12 weeks than that this vaccine will make anyone infertile.
I agree and I have stated on here that I don't think pregnant women should get it, even though the CDC disagrees with me.
That said, I'm not scared of the vaccine and life isn't going back to normal until we get enough people vaccinated.
Could you shed some light on the effects of swapping RNA sequences?
Largely speed. The covid vaccine was developed in 2 days. In a traditional vaccine we'd need to manufacture antigens for it.
I am no expert, but this concerns me as is doesn't trigger an immune response naturally as do traditional vaccines.
What do you think is unnatural about the way that it triggers the immune response? Aside from the fact that it's man made and so is unnatural by definition. Actually, IMHO, it's more natural. The immune response comes from within you as a reaction to the vaccine particles. In traditional vaccines we inject antigens along with the vaccine.
Does anyone really know what the long term effects will be?
I can't think of any reason there would be one, and I'm much more frightened of long term side effects of covid. But truthfully nobody can be 100% sure unless they follow a group of vaccinated persons over time.
Is the talk about 6-12 months because of supposed variations of the virus or because the immune response wears with time?
Both, but to be honest I'm unconvinced. Covid will be with us a long time but there's a good chance that variants will become less deadly over time. The flu is still with us but it's not 1918 or 1957 levels of bad. I believe covid will eventually go the same way. I'm not convinced we'll need to get vaccinated against these future strains, nor am I convinced the vaccine efficacy will wear off. They are saying "it might" because they honestly have no clue.
I personally believe these vaccines will be the future of vaccination, but obviously only time will tell.
They are impossible to research for the uneducated because every source is either high level text, or MSM propaganda, which also concerns me.
I can understand how that's frustrating. You're right. I've yet to read an article (on either the right or the left) about the vaccine that doesn't feel "biased" to me, and that's really annoying because science should not have a political bias.
Yep, it's absolutely scary to think that I could get shingles and give my adult (at that point in the future) kids chicken pox because they weren't allowed to get it.
Moderna itself was already doing clinical studies for their MRNA Zika.
They also did some clinical studies for using it as a flu vaccine.
https://www.biospace.com/article/moderna-releases-phase-i-data-from-2-influenza-trials/
And they have dozens of other studies using it for all sorts of crap, including cancer. Some of those didn't go well. But it was hardly developed "in a year".
Honestly, based on everything I know and everyone I talk to in this field, Fauci is full of shit.
If you look at the flu pandemic of 1957, folks older than 67 had some level of immunity to it, likely because they had previously encountered a similar virus. Our bodies remember how to fight crap for a long time.
That said.... some vaccines do need boosters to keep up their efficacy. Some boosters are every 10 years, some are yearly if the thing mutates enough (see the flu). So far this vaccine seems to be lasting and it seems to be helping against the variants... but all of that could change in a moments notice.
Anyone claiming to know how long this will last or how often one will need to get it is guessing, IMHO.
Believes based on research.
It doesn't re-engineer our cells. It re-engineers the vaccine's "cells" to look like the virus. That's why you get a stronger side effect response on your second shot. Because we're teaching your immune system what to "shoot at".
How can something that was "warp speed" in response to a new virus, be decades in development?
The vaccine system is decades in development, the actual vaccine requires the RNA sequence of the virus to work. But in theory you should be able to swap any virus' RNA sequence in there and let it loose. That's why this particular vaccine is so interesting.
Why do these vaxx only have emergency use and not full FDA approval?
Because there wasn't enough time for this specific vaccine to get full approval. I fully believe it will in the coming 2 years.
If that was true then where are the clinical trial data?
I believe that Moderna will eventually use this to make a Zika and a flu vaxx. They were trying to use it to cure cancer and a few other things but it didn't go well and so they put all the research into using it as a vaccine.
Somebody else asked too, so I posted my reasoning here
First off, it's efficacy rate is much lower. While it's quite likely to lower your chance of hospitalization if you get covid, I don't want to get covid at all in high enough viral loads that I can pass it to my kids.
Think about chicken pox and shingles. Chicken pox was milder on children, but it can come back to haunt you years later. What are the long term effects of having covid? Nobody knows!
So ya, if I'm going to work I want the Pfizer or the Moderna to keep my viral load (if I get it) low enough that when Daddy gets hugs I'm not giving my kids the CCP virus. Yanno?
So that's number 1. Number 2 is that while it is a "traditional vaccine" it was developed at lightning speed. The Pfizer and the Moderna are designed to swap in and out RNA sequences but essentially are the same "delivery" system. They are a decades in development concept and all the information I have says that they aren't that scary. There isn't much in them. They are even low on preservatives. This is one of the least scary vaccines I've ever taken to be honest. The J&J, by contrast, isn't a decades in development thing. I feel like a guinea pig getting it.
And finally, while they are not life threatening, if you lookup J&J on VAERS there are more adverse side effects.
So it was developed in a hurry, it has more side effects and it's less useful.
Is it going to mass sterilize people, give you a 5G chip or let Bill Gate track you? Nah, I'm not going to conspiracy theory here. But I'm not taking it.
I 100% agree with you. Nobody has given me crap for my choice to get the vaccine. People around here don't want to "deport" me (lol) for having a different opinion. And I'm not for forcing them to get vaccinated. I just mean that I wasn't looking to get into a debate about the other two being safe... I was just setting the stage for the kind of "pro vaccine" person that I was, so that when I said that the J&J was troubling it would come from a very specific place (that was general covid vaxx fear). If that makes sense.
As somebody who works in science and believes pretty strongly in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines (which are actually decades in development and, IMHO fairly safe).... I'll just say that I made sure I wasn't getting the J&J.
I said all that stuff at the beginning not because I want to get into it, I know lots of folks round these parts are against all 3, but just because I wanted to make it really painfully clear that I'm not against covid vaccines at all, I got the Pfizer, my wife got the Moderna and I'm not at all worried.... but that I was 95% sure which vaccine this was going to be before I clicked.
100% true because ultimately full communism requires you to part people with their freedom to own stuff.
No.