I think this is just a hard sell for a lot of people in general, but for me this shouldn't be that hard of a sell for Christians. If you believe in God, you can't so easily ignore the devil or the possibility that the spiritual realm we believe in isn't limited to the visuals of Catholic paintings and sculptures.
Well said! I would also note that N95 or not, the real benefit of a mask is when your at the grocery store and someone sneezes right in front of you or on you. If that happens, its good to be wearing a mask or good if they were wearing one, but both of you should dispose of those masks. If you can disinfect your mask with a UV light and if it has a replaceable filter, you can reuse jt. Improper handling of a non-disposable mask is definitely worse than not wearing one but there are plenty of cases where proper use of a mask is beneficial but I agree with everything you just said.
Yeah I kind of subscribe to the Alex Jones, interdimensional demons and angels idea. I definitely believe in a spiritual realm but we don't know how it works. Is it magical? No, its probably reality we can't easily sense or understand or access and our science is limited in its ability to define it.
Very true, that's a good point
I never threatened them with lawyers, I argued that this was not the situation the policy intended and then allowed then to take my wife so she could be treated.
I just got a call this morning from one of the lawyers and he said that because she tested negative and they let me in, any action would be more headache than it's worth and I agree. However, he said that after reviewing their official policies and the medical restriction statutes, what they did was not legal and if anything had happened to my wife or child, he would have recommended action against the hospital.
I was wearing my own PPE and made that case but it didn't matter.
I got a call back from one of the lawyers and he said because she tested negative and I got in that it wasn't worth pursuing but if they had not let me in or if something happened to her or the baby while waiting for the Covid test to come back that he would help me sue for violating medical restriction statues in NC.
Shes still in the hospital, they think she has arrhythmia and we're just waiting on results. Hopefully it's a more common, less dangerous version of arrhythmia
I wouldn't and that's why I don't think ERs should be private either.
Well intentioned but ineffective. I don't consider medical treatment a basic human right but I believe the ER should be considered an essential service like firefighting and police. You can't convince me that an ER is a legitimate, capitalistic "business" when they have a monopy on treating local emergencies. You also can't convince me that I will get better treatment at an ER because it is privately owned, a life of experience has shown that many ERs are full of mediocrity because they exist as an essential service with little to no legitimate competition.
Hospitals and clinics should be considered businesses, but i don't believe its practical or realistic to say the same about an ER. That's not a popular opinion here, but until we privatize fire and police departments and maybe the military, I can't see how an ER is any less of an essential service, but that is the basis of my opinion.
Does that mean that if you choose to seek medical care at an emergency room for potentially life-threatening symptoms, you wave basic human rights? I'm not saying I clearly have a right to go in, but an emergency room visit is not anymore voluntary than calling 911 because your house is on fire. These are different services and one is public and one is private, but an ER visit is not on the same level as voluntarily going to a Dr appointment at a clinic or having elective surgery. Oh, I guess I can drive an hour to a different hospital that has the same authoritarian policy and that somehow represents a voluntary choice to seek treatment? I mean, if someone has a life-threatening situation they could choose to just die at home so I guess you're right.
Thank you so much and thank you for your input. It can get heated in here but I do appreciate advice and viewpoint from medical professionals like yourself.
Amen and thank you for the prayers!
I would agree if this was a clinic or just the main hospital, but this is an emergency room and if they legally can't refuse to give care to a patient regardless of insurance, then they should not be allowed to refuse a spouse entrance when I have no symptoms and would happily comply with a test if they would let me.
If it was an appointment, thats vuntary, but an emergency visit to the emergency room is not voluntary so I reject the opinion that they have the right to refuse entrance to a healthy spouse. I'm blessed that she tested negative and appears to not be at risk, but this policy could result in a person dying in the ER due to something that is not Covid but has symptoms that could be Covid while their spouse sits in the parking lot.
Elevated heart rate and shortness of breath. I think the original concern was pre-eclampsia because my wife had that the day she delivered our first child but that doesn't seem to be the case. She tested negative for Covid and so they just let me in. So far so good, we just want to know why her heart rate was 140-160 bpm resting, but it may just be the pregnancy.
Shes 26 weeks
I know, I just don't like sitting on my ass
it's not high risk based on current data but our first child had complications so we're going with hospital care.
if they gave me that option I would have taken it.
My wife just tested negative and they let me in. This is why I was unhappy with this, she had mild symptoms but it was more likely she had a heart issue or something with the baby and if anything happened to the baby, I wouldn't be with my wife because of this policy. I understand no visitors but they said this was because I could risk getting it from her. That's crazy and just wrong.
They said it was to protect me from her and thats what I take issue with, I have no symptoms and her symptoms are mild.
Our baby is doing good thank God! And actually, I work for Duke Clinical Research Institute and have high regard for Duke and Duke isn't the only one in this area with this policy.
They just now let me in because she tested negative for Covid so all is good but I'm not happy with the way they handled this. My concern was not with Covid but that something might happen to her or the baby because it was something else and I wouldn't be with her. We have had miscarriages in the past and this is second trimester.
This kind of thing starts in purple states not blue states, if it can keep any momentum it might affect blue states.
I can go into ketosis in 24 hours doing a 0 carb carnivore diet. You either have to go almost no carb or you need to do a lot of exercise so your body uses the carbs quickly and goes into ketosis. If you're doing a "low carb" diet of 40-60g of carbs a day,0 its very hard to get into ketosis unless you're body building.
A "different opinion" isn't telling people to worship a "new magical sky creature".
If you want to troll fellow MAGA folks, how about don't be so condescending? I see a lot of atheists and agnostics getting love on here because we are united against globalism, Marxism and Islam. If you care more about bashing a God that a majority of us believe in instead of respectfully disagreeing, then y'all can GTFO
I agree and I'm a little biased because I married a Christian from Syria that got citizenship the year before she voted Trump in 2016
Important to note that a regular UV light damages DNA and RNA, so don't go buy a UV light off of ebay (since Amazon isn't "prime" much anymore) and not expect to get cancer unless you only use it to disinfect PPE
Aka how Roy Moore got elected in NC.
In a state that went to Trump, overwhelmingly.
In a state that voted a Republic veto-proof majority in the state legislature in 2016