REDDIT is still useful for some things:
He's a place holder.
I think their best shot is Tulsi from a brokered convention, that's why they wouldn't let her in the debates. They want to prevent the others from overexposing and attacking her.
And by 'others' I mean the crazy alcoholic lady signing copies of her book in the toilet paper aisle at Costco.
Almost a hundred million Chinese reject communism in spite of vicious persecution:
https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/world-watch-list/china/
"The dividing line between good and evil runs through every human heart"- Solzhenitsyn
The Chinese are human beings
soulless bug people.
This is how normal people respond to a suicide:
"it's cheaper than a movie and there's free coffee."
Here's the simplest way I can put it.
Everything Trump does is selling Trump: the rallies, his press talks getting in the helicopter, the tweets.
Saying "the trash took itself out" when a transexual commits suicide doesn't sell Trump, so he wouldn't say it.
The pussy grabbing/Mexican rapists stuff wasn't the end of the world because for every person who reacted negatively, there was 1.x others like you and me who thought: "at last, a real human being, who says out loud, what everyone is thinking, is running for office, and who cares if it sounds a little strong, because it's true".
The difference is, Trump would never call this person trash. You're taking an indefensible position and claiming that it's ok because it's like something Trump would say... but it isn't. Because unlike the pussy grabbing comment, there's no defense for saying this human being was trash, because it's not true for people of good will.
Trump says truth out loud, what most common sense people think, but often don't because it's 'politically incorrect' and the SJWs will make you suffer.
Just look at all the other comments down thread. Most people in this thread are not gleeful about this suicide. They are not gleeful, not because glee is politically incorrect, or gays are too sensitive and we have to pander to them, but because it's needlessly negative and just off-putting to the average person. It's not emotionally intelligent.
I'm not arguing for pandering. I'm arguing against people being a dick when some miserable person offs themselves.
He gloats when we kill a terrorist, not when an American commits suicide.
Because Trump's not a dick. He's a winner. Winners make good things happen. Like convincing people to vote for Trump by showing them what winning looks like.
You know, like #walkaway. Started by that fag, and endorsed by some trans people.
So... how many people brainwashed by fake news have you sold on looking at Trump who weren't interested before you talked to them ?
That's the whole point of this discussion about convincing people and reasoning them into saving the country. Are we just going to shoot or call 'trash' everyone who doesn't understand?
Seriously- did you grow up always knowing about the Constitution? If so, you can't understand someone who grew up liberal, but that doesn't mean they're hopeless, only that you don't understand how to teach them. Do you like the fact that the USA is so polarized?
There's a guy here in this thread saying 'fuck this rally guy' because I'm trying to do something positive and all some people can say is 'hur due glad the stupid fag is dead, wouldn't waste my breath on him'.
But what about the #walkaway movement?
IT WAS STARTED BY A FAG !
What could this person, who is now dead, have accomplished if someone could have understood him and helped him to understand? It's that person who could win over a transexual here on this thread saying 'the trash took itself out'? No. But that doesn't change the fact that this now dead person desperately needed someone in their life like that.
I'm saying this approach is not consistent with Trump's opinion. "Some people like steak, some like spaghetti".
If people are not pushing their lifestyle on others, then they're not trash just because they're gay/confused/brainwashed into self mutilation. This person was a victim of the culture that destroyed his life, his victimization doesn't make him 'trash'.
I don't know if he was pushing his lifestyle on others, if he was, that's messed up, but if he went off the rails because he was misled himself, then he deserves compassion.
Trump is a compassionate person.
It's possible to speak the truth about the dysfunction in this man's life without seeing him as 'trash'.
The whole point I'm making isn't about 'feelings', is about the effect those feelings have, turning people away from Trump because it feeds into the fake news narrative that Trump is a heartless bastard. He's not, and because he's not, he'd never say something like that.
Lemme ask you, "vote_for_MAGA_2020"
: how many people have you reasoned into looking objectively at Trump?
Has anyone decided to "vote_for_MAGA_2020/" based on your reasoning here, that transexuals are 'trash'?
I actually talk to people to try to get them to look at Trump, and based on my experience, it's not a winning argument: "vote for Trump, we cheer when depressed confused people kill themselves".
One of the wedges the fake news uses to drive people away from looking at Trump is the lie that he hates/dehumanizes gays.
This thread features Trump supporters displaying and defending the same caricature of intolerance the fake news accuses Trump of having.
Trump said, in re: gays, "some people like spaghetti, some people like steak". That's as deep as he goes with it.
What the 'all or nothing' thinking on this thread doesn't appreciate (but Trump does) is that there is a huge number of people who are not strictly heterosexual who have no interest in pushing their lifestyle on anyone else. The militant gays are way more visible... because they're militant. The silent majority of gays want to be left alone and are decent people and you're acting like all gays want to push Trans story time on toddlers and that's not the case.
someone... calling ... [suicidally depressed, wretchedly unhappy and abused] people trash on thedonald.win does not magically alienate all those people.
Hmm. Yeah, actually... it does. When they become aware of it.
Speaking from personal experience with my liberal friends.
It's not magic, it's elementary emotional intelligence. No one will give their loyalty to people they don't feel they can trust, or whom they can't respect.
One of the wedges the fake news uses to drive people away from looking at Trump is the lie that he hates/dehumanizes gays.
This thread features Trump supporters displaying and defending the same caricature of intolerance the fake news accuses Trump of having.
Trump said, in re: gays, "some people like spaghetti, some people like steak". That's as deep as he goes with it.
What the 'all or nothing' thinking on this thread doesn't appreciate is that there is a huge number of people who are not strictly heterosexual who have no interest in pushing their lifestyle on anyone else. The militant gays are way more visible... because they're militant. The silent majority of gays want to be left alone and are decent people and you're acting like all gays want to push Trans story time on toddlers and that's not the case.
If you’re still on the fence in face of the common sense that President Trump brings vs the batshit insanity
I think you underestimate the difficulty of waking up from the conditioning.
Do fish know that they are wet?
A lot of this stuff is obvious to you and me because we've been redpilled for years. Judging other people based on one's own frame of mind is called solipsism and growing out of that happens in a developmental stage typical of young adults.
Some people never take that step. When those folks who have not taken that step spend time together, it results in the groupthink echo chamber and the dehumanization of outsiders we see here.
All I'm saying is that people who are different from you and me are still potential Trump voters and it's unwise to alienate them unnecessarily. Is that such a contemptible point of view ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwBVbgf8CM&feature=youtu.be&t=83 when she told people at the Trump rally that she was a democrat, she was welcomed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4_sogz42Y0
From the comments : "It was Trump's response to the Orlando Night Club shooting versus Hillary's response that sealed the deal for me. Donald Trump was the one who was more likely to protect me form islamic extremists and Hillary was the one more likely to act as their apologist. "
Are there dysfunctional LGBT people ? Sure. Dysfunctional people are everywhere. Are they all irredeemable ? Apparently not.
Are you going to tell these people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwsMvFBGQY
you don't want their votes?
The mentally sickest people are the ones who are convinced they are well, but aren't. Let's put them all to death, or convince them that they are beyond hope so they kill themselves and save us the trouble. Right ?
Have you ever read the autobiography of a former jihadi terrorist/Klan member/mafioso/communist/prostitute/Democrat/abortionist/slave ship captain? They were all convinced that they were on the right path - until they started to wonder.
What if we had words of hope and reconciliation here instead of gloating over this wretched person's end ?
Have you ever seen a loved one go through any kind of emotional struggle in their lives ? Did you think "I'm done with that person, they are trash" because they were having a hard time ? Or do you live in some bubble of perfect people whose lives are all totally blissful and nothing bad ever happens to them?
The mentally sickest people are the ones who are convinced they are well, but aren't. Let's put them all to death, or convince them that they are beyond hope so they kill themselves and save us the trouble. Right ?
Have you ever read the autobiography of a former jihadi terrorist/Klan member/mafioso/communist/prostitute/Democrat/abortionist/slave ship captain? They were all convinced that they were on the right path - until they started to wonder.
What if we had words of hope and reconciliation here instead of gloating over this wretched person's end ?
Transsexual = doesn't care if it's mentally ill and trys to convince the rest of the world they are wrong, I.E. trash.
Wounded individual = knows it needs help
The mentally sickest people are the ones who are convinced they are well, but aren't. Let's put them all to death, or convince them that they are beyond hope so they kill themselves and save us the trouble. Right ?
Have you ever read the autobiography of a former jihadi terrorist/Klan member/mafioso/communist/prostitute/Democrat/abortionist/slave ship captain? They were all convinced that they were on the right path - until they started to wonder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Newton
What if we had words of hope and reconciliation here instead of gloating over this wretched person's end ?
"wishing death upon someone"
Is that your takeaway from this comment thread?
yep
I didn't think we were wishing death on anyone. That's not really how we roll here.
maybe you missed the comments gloating over 'the trash taking itself out'
Your rationale for saying I am over reacting is that you claim it was simply a joke. That doesn't pass the smell test.
a Trump supporter for making a joke you find distasteful.
Nah. I have a pretty good sense of humor. That wasn't just a joke, even if it was a 'clever' turn of phrase. And some other people repeating it here aren't just making a joke, either. They really believe gender confused people who commit suicide after having been victimized and brainwashed by a dysfunctional culture are 'trash'.
Have you ever seen a loved one go through any kind of emotional struggle in their lives ? Did you think "I'm done with that person, they are trash" because they were having a hard time ? Or do you live in some bubble of perfect people whose lives are all totally blissful and nothing bad ever happens to them?
Calling people 'trash' who commit suicide due to mental problems and gaslighting from the culture... it doesn't take 'delicate sensibilities' to know that's wrong, and it doesn't take a genius to understand that it was a clear statement of a person's values, even if the turn of phrase also shows a level of wit. Maybe like a 50% level of wit.
a collection of individuals
one (at least) of whom is not capable of nudging someone off the fence into our camp and voting with us. I don't know too many people on the fence who would want to identify with someone who dehumanizes suffering people like that.
I don't think it's sanctimonious to point out that calling a tragically confused person 'trash' is going to make your average Bernie bro more likely to sit this out.
Speaking as a former Democrat with Bernie bro friends.
You could maybe come up with a more compelling defense of your point of view than just trying to tell me what to do.
I got 14 Upvotes, so it's maybe not a crazy idea, and if you have a better one (your tautology about individuals doesn't qualify), I'm all ears.
the trash takes itself out (u/SNRNXS/)
That was a sad confused wounded human being with friends and family who loved them, not trash.
You do not MAGA.
what is the difference between archive.is and archive.today ?
watching
[Treat me good, I'll treat you better, treat me bad and I'll treat you worse.
Sonny Barger](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/93/64/6c/93646ce94b13afd566ce19254178607b.jpg)
https://selvedgeyard.com/2009/08/06/ralph-sonny-barger-an-outlaws-tale-of-harleys-highways-hell/
thank you
Can't see image, click on it and at:
https://magaimg.net/img/9stk.jpg
I get:
Error 522 Ray ID: 56adcaadbca5c7c9 • 2020-02-26 00:27:25 UTC Connection timed out
have to wonder if they'll put any anti-Trump Easter eggs in the code.