That you believe being "anti-mask", because universal mask policies are undeniably anti-liberty, is mindless is just one sign of your mental deficiency.
Who is more mindless? The one who goes with the flow, believes the "experts" (Fauci and the Scarf Queen)? Or the man who thinks about the consequences of universal mask policies and sees their destructive effects on our society, our liberty, and social cohesion and wants to take a stand against them?
You decided to unfairly attack everyone who is anti-mask using a straw man approach and conflating them with anti-vaxxers (who by the way, have legitimate reservations about government imposed vaccines, a la the Bill Gates Foundation).
Most view this from a liberty standpoint, and would agree people who are sick should wear one. But it's their choice, and the data out there is not conclusive that wearing one helps.
Trusting people to do what is right FOR THEM is a fundamental part of conservatism and freedom and should be embraced. Making everyone do the same thing in this matter is tyranny and against everything our country was founded on.
You are asleep if you believe that the mega-corporations in America are run by good people who are conservative. They are almost to a man Marxists, and they have been controlling public opinion and public policy for a long time.
Did I say anything about using government to crack down on these corporations? What is wrong with speaking out against Marxist-led corporations?
Get your head out of your ass and realize our society has been infiltrated by Communists. Stop attacking people who have seen the light and do some personal reflection. Maybe watch a Bezmenov video, listen to a Rush episode on the radio.
"People like me...". Fuck you. I voted for President Trump, and I goddamn sure will again.
Edit: And one more thing, since you are obviously a tool with a low IQ, that is a false conflation, and you are intentionally dragging in a new topic, drunk driving, to derail. But I'll bit — you are much more likely to die from a drunk driver than this virus, and they would never be able to prove who gave you it. Could be the tard (you) who touched his mask after touching everything else in a public place.
I am very mad and fired up about masks, and this hit a nerve.
Perhaps you are right on the public side of things. I still think he could meet or make a phone call privately with the conservative governors who have this kind of crap going on in their states and have a good amount of this go away, especially on the public school side of things.
I agree that it is a losing bid to say anything either way. But that's the thing — what bothered me most about this is it made it seem he would not stand up for those of us who are fighting against masks and are oppressed by these policies. This tweet embraced a losing side, instead of leaving it open.
On the bright side, another poster (Nostaws) made a good point, this could be a way to get the Marxists to go against masks...it worked with HCQ.
My entire family has been brainwashed or coerced. Trump speaking out against them publicly would have really broken the ice, lifted the scales so to speak.
I work with useful idiot Democrat zombies at a state university. If classes remain on campus in the fall I will be forced to wear one to keep my job.
The President's stance on this is a huge disappointment. I have been writing a letter to him to ask him to save us from all of this by speaking out against it, maybe twisting the arms of some governors. Now that is apparently out of the question.
Edit: I am not saying that I will starve. I am saying that it is a disagreeable option. Starve, lose my job, or go along with it.
Furthermore, GROCERY STORE mask orders do have teeth. You will be thrown out, people talk about it here all the time.
I am voting for him. That does not mean I can't be disappointed. I do not think he realizes how many people he just shut out of the debate.
This is more than just appeasing independents et al.
Linking mask wearing to patriotism sets the precedent that you are brave and patriotic to wear a mask, which is bullshit and wrong. It legitmizies oppressive policies set by unaccountable, unelected organizations (Kroger, Walmart, ALDI, PetSmart, and on and on).
Maybe you don't realize, but for people who do not, will not wear a mask, every retail store in America has shut them out. We have nowhere to turn to. And now this. I was hoping he would do exactly the opposite. Now I have few choices — starve, drive forever for groceries, pay exorbitantly for groceries many states away, or make a scene and lose my job.
The masks are a tool of oppression, nothing else.
No, he should stand firm and protect the silent majority from idiocy and oppression. He has always won by doubling down. I am very much let down, and I am sure many others he has no idea were against masks are as well. This is horrific, effectively bowing to the mob.
What the fuck?
The timing of this is horrible. Nationwide mask crackdown over the weekend by all retail corporations including every grocery store in my area. They are enforcing oppression the Democrats failed to achieve in free states. Colluding with Marxists.
President Trump supports this?
I am employed by a public school system and am writing a letter to my representatives about this. I am tired of forced mask policies, and I face one myself come fall semester. These policies will be used to crush people like us, and potentially get us fired for noncompliance. They are fundamentally anti-first amendment.
I am combing the site for posts like this to help bolster my argument and hopefully persuade enough people in government to stop this madness. If anyone has sources on this, I would like to know because I might miss a good one. I can share the text of my letter when it is finished if anyone is interested.
I am employed by a public school system and am writing a letter to my representatives about this. I am tired of forced mask policies, and I face one myself come fall semester. These policies will be used to crush people like us, and potentially get us fired for noncompliance. They are fundamentally anti-first amendment.
I am combing the site for posts like this to help bolster my argument and hopefully persuade enough people in government to stop this madness. If anyone has sources on this, I would like to know because I might miss a good one. I can share the text of my letter when it is finished if anyone is interested.
Do not recall this point being articulated. Just that mask policy should be boycotted because it is ineffective, inhuman, and oppressive. This situation is a civl rights issue more reminiscent of Jim Crow oppression, de jure discrimination based on masks, and while not a free market issue boycotting can, perhaps, make a difference as it did in the Civil Rights era.
Of course there is corruption on "both sides" that must be reformed - they are all government officials and imperfect men, allowed great power in a sabotaged and overgrown system, and abusing their power through corporate influence. A government that when working correctly (i.e., circa the time of de Tocqueville) was good. The rot is immense and there is a lot to cut to get back to that. I do not support new regulations and do not believe many of us do either, but I do not remember your point above as the same point you were originally making.
Why are people accepting policies that are, while perhaps not government enforced, come from government and unfree press propaganda? From unprincipled, bunk "science"?
Why normalize masks? This is the United States of America, not China, not Vietnam, not Cambodia. Stop it. Choose freedom... our country was founded on it, many have died for you to have it. No masks...
If you want to wear it, it is your choice, but the mask is a political symbol promoting evil, oppressive propaganda.
Big problem with your argument is assuming there is still a free market. Government at each level sunk its tendrils deep into every American business.
Another, related hole is the assumption of free will on the part of the business. In many localities they do not have a choice. Businesses that do have a choice are imposing the will of the government and the unfree press, not God, tradition (in the case of the baker) or the people.
You cannot conflate "No shirt, no shoes, no service" with forcing customers to wear masks. The basis for the policies is not the same. Such a conflation is intelectually dishonest. I think your refusal to see this flaw is the main source of disagreement
Our economy is now run by an extortion racket by one side. Even the liberal-run stores comply mainly to not get reamed by the mayor or governor, or to preserve their brainwashed customer base, or to avoid being sued. Mask policies are not a free market issue when the market is controlled by government and the unfree press.
I am pretty sure that's the very definition of not conclusive. In any case, the "experts" have said many different things — at which point were they (Fauci, CDC, WHO) lying?. Papers about respiratory viruses from before all this mess state specifically that universal mask requirement policies are not effective at preventing the spread of a respiratory virus.
As do I and, from your linked post, it seems you do as well. I agree with much of what you wrote, though I believe the spinelessness and vacillations by experts on their effectiveness, combined with studies that suggest they are not, means the idea they are effective enough to be worth wearing should be discounted. Also individuals must weigh the risk of getting infected and dying or having horrible complications (extremely low) against the complete inconvenience and oppressive practices associated with these masks — we have never, ever done this before, for any disease in recent memory, why now?
Specifically universal mask policies (does not matter who pushes them, government or corporation) are being used to oppress those who disagree with their use and do not want to wear them. The slippery slope is a real phenomenon. How far are they going to go? How much liberty is enough to sacrifice? This is why these policies must be opposed.