No, both sides are going to declare victory to set up the legal battle. That's what's actually going to decide this. Basically, how slick were they with hiding their fraud?

Ok I laughed

It's just setting up for the legal battle. This isn't "there's literally no mathematical way for us to lose."

This is just setting up for the legal battle.

Yeah, it's also statistically impossible (unlikely) that fuckin' JOE BIDEN has more popularity than Obama. Problem is... they don't seem to give a shit about looking convincing at this point, which scares me. What's the end game?

Can Joe still pack the court?

Nice name - at least Trump's an adult, so that's a good change of pace for ol' Joe, huh? Progress.

Of course there's fucking fraud, but they're snakes - it's probably going to be super hard to prove without some smoking gun, and the media's just going to start declaring Sleepy as the President in the meantime.

Notice how everyone is entirely on recounts now? That's how you know. It's going to take massive amounts of fraud that can be easily shown to the American people, and the media (the messenger) isn't on our side. If we're saying our only strategy is recounts, then we're fucked. Downvote me all you want pedes.

Hate to say it, but this is the most likely. We're slowly moving into denial territory. I would LOVE to be wrong.

NoVA makes VA unlikely at this point, and dems are going to pull late-counting bullshit in PA.

True, but I've been looking here... if you click the "Last Day" button, you can see it was really high around 11:00 est, and it's just been slowly but steadily down...

Happy it's still in Trump's favor, even if it's slipping.

http://maximwebsite.tripod.com/President2020.html

Join the club. I don't know how to tell who's being optimistic vs. realistic.

give it to me straight, how we doin?

DON'T CLICK!

See, not thrilled there - because, let's be real, PA is probably going to pull some bullshit and magically find ballots overnight. Would really rather not depend on them.

I feel ya, but can we not do the literally shaking thing they do rofl

Come onnn VA pedes!

What? It's given me peace of mind to see his numbers go up, feel like it's worth a shout if it suddenly goes down. Someone else says it's because it's heads up betting though.

We don't technically NEED VA, right? I'll definitely take it, just making sure

interesting - thanks!

Guys not concern trolling, but why did Biden just drop from 4.1 to 3.6 on Betfair?

Biden just went from 4.33 to 4.2 on Betfair. Something happen pedes?! edit: 3.6 now, wtf?

"Stop being whiny faggots"

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