"I'm heavily biased towards capitalistic and liberty based systems of decentralization in as many cases as possible. I'm not an extremist, I do admit there's obviously cases where the mechanisms of competition and decentralization are incongruent in terms of utility to the consumer. So, where it might seem obvious to everyone else that attacking sites (in this case reddit) that censor for being publishers makes sense, to me I demand an explanation that the market cannot handle it on its own."
This is nonsense. You are just confused. You are not suggesting liberty in anyway, I AM!!!!!!!!!! You want Reddit to be kings that can do what they want, host (look up what hosting content means, I'm not going to link anything for you this time, google it yourself) child pornography, ban the Donald (how the fuck is that freedom for you and me), while at the same time they interfere in our election (A GOD DAMN CRIME). The thing you are talking about is 4Chan. Do you know what that is? 4Chan allows user freedom. REDDIT IS COMMUNIST. How do you not understand the difference?
If you walk into a store, are they allowed to punch you in the face? No? Why not, you are on their property? You believe in property rights don't you? You believe that you can defend your property from tresspass don't you? And yet if you walk into a store, they can not shoot you for being there. Yet in many states you could punch someone in the face for walking into your house. This is a bad example but still works to some extent as far as the difference goes... And what is that difference??? Public FORUM. REDDIT IS A PUBLIC FORUM. THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE JUST FOR BEING A TRUMP SUPPORTER. And they also aren't supposed to advertise for a candidate without declaring that advertisement. What stores do you know that are publicly advertising for Bernie Sanders? AND YET STORES HAVE MORE PROTECTIONS THAN REDDIT SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY PUBLIC SPACES, REDDIT IS NOT ANYMORE, WE ALL HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE WE SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA. If your local Walmart had Bernie signs up everywhere, and anti trump pamphlet handed out at the door they would have to announce that to the FEC. And if Walmart had pornography, they would have to keep children away from it. Reddit does not keep children away from pornography, instead encourages children to post pornography r/legalTEENS Teens being the key word seeing as though they have a a sub reddit called r/teenagers, and no way from keeping those teenagers from posting nudity in r/legalTEENS. Do children have the right to walk around walmart NUDE since it is PRIVATELY OWNED??? Then why are children being asked to post on Reddit in r/legalTEENS just because IT is privately owned???
I am going to add the gay cake/bakery example, are you in charge of what walmart keeps on their shelves? No. Can you demand walmart keep gay cakes for you and your husband? No. The Bakery does not have to do that either. They don't have to make you any cake, they are not your slave. That is in no way election interference either. Can we demand that Reddit produce gay cakes because we say so? No. Can we demand anything from Reddit? Not really, not without the help of the government. So, can we demand they put the Donald back to it's original state? Not really, not with out the help of the government. If your local walmart had wall to wall Bernie paraphernalia, and no Trump merchandise, could we demand they remove it? Not really, not without the help of the FEC. Would they have to remove it with the help of the FEC??? ABSOLUTELY.
QUIT MAKING STATEMENTS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Rephrase every statement you make in the form of a question and I will gladly tell you if you are right or wrong AND WHY.
Reddit is breaking campaign finance laws. Reddit is providing pornography to children. Does youtube have pornography? No. Does youtube encourage teenagers to post pornography? No. R/Legalteens. Again, just off you example you don't know what you are talking about, and you are making statements that are incorrect like they are facts, also known as concern trolling. You need to stop that. You don't know what you are talking about, so ask questions instead of making stupid statements that make any informed individual, like myself, want to cuss you the fuck out. Does youtube have porn? NO. Is youtube censoring Donald Trump? NOOOOO. Does Youtube pay some people, including copyright holder? YESSSSSSSSS. Does Reddit pay anybody that uses the site? NOOOOOO. They link to copyrighted content in the same way pirate bay does, while making a profit, and do not pay the copyright holders. YouTube does. https://www.youtube.com/about/copyright/ < read this is you don't think youtube abides by copyright. Reddit does not pay anybody on the site that they make public. Again, your comparison is piss poor.
How is reddit breaking campaign finance laws?
What would happen if you googled Donald Trump, and no only did nothing about Donald Trump show up, but only sites promoting Communist Sanders showed up? What would happen if google took it to extremes that not only was it hard as fuck to find information about Donald Trump, but that information was generally negative? THAT WOULD BE AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR BERNIE SANDERS. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. Reddit is already doing that, and has gone so far that only a few posts have been allowed on the Donald TODAY. This is a campaign donation of monetary value, aka free advertising, that Reddit needs to either report to the FEC, or STOP DOING BECAUSE IT IS ELECTION INTEREFERENCE.
This isn't people disagreeing with you, this is you being WRONG, MAKING BAD COMPARISONS, AND STILL TALKING LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
A case like I am suggesting has not been done, but Reddit has also NOT REMOVED THE SUB REDDIT OF A POLITICAL CANDIDATE LIKE THEY JUST DID. Would it be hard to win? Yes. Might it take an act of congress? Maybe. Could the FEC and FCC look into it? Definitely. What would that take? Mass reports.
Got anymore lame assumptions that I have to waste my time with because you refuse to look up this information yourself? You have yet to provide 1 link in defense of your ideas. Why? I source what I am saying. You are just speaking off the cuff LIKE A TROLL. Provide links next time, read what I wrote, INCLUDING THE LINKS, or get talked to like a FUCKING TROLL.
Your first assumption is incorrect.
2nd assumption also incorrect. It's ridiculously hard to start up a popular social website that lasts, just ask the founder of thedonald.win and how much it costs to run this site, we don't have hardly any users yet.
How you are talking about the internet is KINGS. We don't have kings. We need to put kings spez in jail.
I don't care about feelings. I don't. Never going to. If someone comes across as a troll, I treat them as such. Another "person", idiot, was already trolling me on this same subject, and I have been spamming The_donald all day, and dealing with concern trolls over there. I made 5,500 karma today shit posting in the Donald in 24 hours. 24 fucking hours. Before my account got banned. So I've been dealing with trolls all day.
Word of advice, if you want people to take you seriously, and have a decent conversation read what they wrote. All the information was already provided. You had to click the links, but that is how you know I didn't make it up.
Comcast does not control what you see on the internet do they??? Reddit DID NOT USE TOOO... THEY DO NOW. That is why they no longer get the protections that comcast gets, because they curate, just like a publisher.
Even your concept of radically free internet is gross. Radically free means spez can shut down Trump supporters on a public forum? Jesus.
In your internet the owner of Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, google, bing, duckduckgo... Get to personally choose what is on the internet. Is that freedom because they would be kings, and you and I would have no voice? Dread Pirate Roberts went to jail for doing what Reddit does EVERY DAY, violating copyright laws. Reddit does not pay any body any copy right revenue, yet they link to copyrighted work. Just like pirate bay, whose founder went to jail. The current admins of pirate bay ARE NOT PUBLIC. THEY HIDE. They would go to jail if they didn't. Just like the founder did. It's called the deep web, and it consists of many illegal websites. Like pirate bay. But PIRATE BAY DOESN'T HOST REDDIT DOES. Big difference. Pirate bay servers are in EU. Reddit servers are in Commiefornia. Big Difference.
You are not understanding a basic law. READ THIS PLEASE. It's the law that currently protects Reddit but shouldn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act
And here are all the laws that Reddit should abide by.
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Publishing+Law
You sounded like a concern troll, and I treated you as such. You didn't ask questions, you made statements that were wayyyyyyyyyy off base. Pirate bay was about the worst example you could give. 4chan would be much better, but 4chan doesn't have Spez.
Do you have questions? Or are you going to make ignorant statements about things you don't know about? If so, I won't treat you like a cuck.
P.S. I don't give a fuck about ANYBODIES feelings.
Pirate bay doesn't host, isn't in California, isn't conducting election interference, and the owner of that site isn't public. Pirate bay also doesn't make money. What a shitty comparison. Also, DRED PIRATE ROBERTS WENT TO JAIL, he was the founder of pirate bay.
If Spez goes to jail like Dread pirate Roberts did, the next reddit would have to be underground. Idiot.
You are a moron. I stop here.
You are a serious spineless cuck. Jesus Christ. Learn something, read some of the links I posted. Don't just rant about shit you know nothing about.
Unfortunately the copy pasta I made is more through than the original post. You might need to skim through it to see what I added if you are still confused, because that copy pasta explains a lot. If you have more questions feel free to ask, but I'm going to bed soon.
The best couple of things you can do are.
- Report what you know to your congress person. You don't have to be accurate, just report that reddit is cucked, and advertising for Bernie while not allowing pro Donald anything.
- Report to the FEC that you think reddit is interfering in our current election and that Spez has already said he has the capability... it's it the_donald side bar.
- Report to the FCC that you don't believe Reddit falls under 230 protections because they are actively curating their content, and not acting as a neutral platform. You can tell them your experience recently in the donald, but the full picture starting with the algorithm change, then quarantine, then up vote bans, then shutting down the sub on the day of a debate 1 week before super tuesday, then removing half our mods. Another angle here, is that they advertise to children, r/teenagers, while hosting child porn r/legalteens and r/gonewild always have posts removed due to underage, and while they advertise to children, they don't stop children from accessing or post pornography. We need section 230 to go away from reddit before they can be held liable for this.