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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

I find your arguments petulant and unconvincing. I serve a God who has established his rules over an entire world throughout thousands of years of human history. I dare you to do better.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

I will say that the difference between taking 2,030 women captive as an act of mercy seems to be substantially different than 32,000, because you cant read king james english.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dude, you're flooding my comments because you're an angry atheist. I'm a theist. If you support Trump, that's great. I spent my evening before talking to you answering well-meaning questions.

Let me ask you this: If I answered all your questions according to the scriptures that inform my way of thinking, would you ever believe?

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

God made allowance for what we would consider "indentured servitude". Nobody considered them cattle. That's a product of marxist darwinism.

Biblical slavery could not give freedom to foreigners because foreigners couldn't be free to own anything in Israel. Pretty good model for nationalism, imo.

Only argument I made for killing babies is killing half breed-angels.

You sound like some Dawkins devotee, imo.

May he burn in hell for deceiving so many.

You hate Christ, just say it. you have already in so many words. Do it. Say that you hate Christ.

You hate the world his people built? Do you hate western culture? What else? all you do is tear down, what's your answer to the ancient world? (pardon me for being crass) just fuck everyone? have a middle brown world of no distinctions?

That's just not how society works.

You can stand on your morality so long as it's convenient.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

Come on, you're dropping logical fallacies like you just learned them with no regard for the argument at hand.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

Listen. You've got my attention. Those were taken as slaves, correct? 30 and two thousand = 2,030.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

Again, I'm not sure where you're getting 32,000 from. You've gone this whole time without quoting a verse, maybe it burns your to do hard work, or to read from the text of scripture.

What are you asking? bloodline or hostility? People (individually) have to make choices whether to sacrifice their children i assume.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

well, if you want the uncomfortable answer, incompletely. I'm sure that noah's wife was not perfect, or the incestuous offspring of Canaan would not have been possible. Incest caused the problem. Fidelity is the answer.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hey. I tried. You are unrepentant (of unbelief). You reject the scriptures that teach about Jesus. How can you possibly believe in anything they say?

You've taken the one forthright person who'd happy debate and now you defame me for upholding what the scriptures say (and furthermore, put my final comments without context to further defame my position without explanation)

I say this honestly, Turn back from this hate, man. You're on a bad road. Slavery is human history. God doesn't like it, he provides the solution. Incest and disgusting sexual immorality deserves death, but it's not mine to deal out, or I'm sure i'd be guilty.

Good thing we have a good God who hates sin, and loves mercy.

Message me anytime, but you are on a road that leads to hell. A hell in this life of hatred of God who upholds marriage, who despises oppression, and earnestly desires your repentance because you are made in his image and likeness.

I'll leave you with this:

"God made him [Jesus] who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."

2 cor 5:21

Follow Jesus. He's the only good master that can make all that make sense.

Good talk.

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Speechify 3 points ago +3 / -0

Great question.

The Bible makes no mention of mortal vs venial sins except 1John 5:16. The only unforgivable sin is attributing the works of Jesus Christ to the Devil (Matthew 12:31-32). In 20 years of ministry, I've never knows anyone to come back from claiming that Jesus was the Devil and all the bible and all His words were demonic. (Because Jesus is God).

Adultery - Forgiven (I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfill all my will.” Acts 13:22)

Greed/Power - Forgiven (He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds. John 19:39)

Let me just tell you the words of Christ:

"Jesus went into Galilee and proclaimed the gospel of God, “The time is fulfilled,” He said, “and the kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe in the gospel!”

Mark 1:15

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

1 John 1:9

"16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God."

John 3:16-21

God bless you, we're all human. We all need His grace.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure, you rightly identify my basis of morality. Divine command theory. Hopefully you are familiar. But, I don't think that divine commands are without warrant.

The Bible does command the slaughter of infants, mothers, grandmothers, and the enslavement of individuals as property. This is true.

The God of the Universe can make full disposal of any culture at the time, and I would affirm His decisions unto the present for the reasons I have stated any you have reiterated (stamping out a particular "alien" bloodline)

You are in no danger of my applying these to any people here known. Blacks, Whites, we're all precious in His sight.. but he did wipe out a world for this. (Flood).

If Ham had sex with is mother ("uncovered his father's nakedness") then that is the basis for all of the Goliaths and sons of Anak and all associated.

I'm happy to excuse myself well.

Repent. And believe.

"For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."

Matt 24:37

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean, I would consider myself more than forthright on the subject. You have made all kinds of unsubstantiated claims with nothing but your own statements to back them up.

"“A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established."

Deuteronomy 19:15

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

Man, I'm just trying to help. I've given you eight? scripture to uphold my point that slavery is permissible, but not ideal. Genocide is understandable when you are killing giants and people that will do nothing but kill you.

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Speechify 1 point ago +1 / -0

God was stamping out that (Nephilim) bloodline, that is my conjecture. I have no idea what you are referring to with "32,000 virgins to breed with". Moses married in the family before Midian became hostile (40 year time frame). You're not making your point clearly.

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Speechify 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, I think that should be obvious that we are the same kind of people. Relative to demonstrating that we are of the same passions:

"And the people thirsted there for water; and the people murmured against Moses, and said, Wherefore is this that thou hast brought us up out of Egypt, to kill us and our children and our cattle with thirst?"

Exo 17:3

We thirst.

"Once when Jacob was cooking stew, Esau came in from the field, and he was exhausted."

Genesis 25:29

We hunger.

"he said, “Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be to his brothers.”

Gen 9:29

We curse.

"And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to me from the ground."

Gen 4:10

We hear from the Lord (and pray)

We are the same people.

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