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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

You surely aren't implying the process of immunization isn't feasible/clearly documented & demonstrated, correct?

Vaccines are outstanding tools to combat diseases with a stable host pathogen (e.g. bacteria). Conversely viruses can often seem foolish to vaccinate for, at least to me, since their ability to mutate and bypass the protection can trivialize the level of actual protection. With that being said, questioning the efficacy of vaccines in general borders on outright foolishness.

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Thanagor 5 points ago +5 / -0

One point to consider is that 1,469 child deaths were reported from 1997 to 2013, which is to be contrasted to the total number of vaccinations performed (didn't see an exact #, but 100s of millions to be sure) renders the total a non-factor/<~1%.

HOWEVER, don't take this as a dismissal of your assertion. Any underlying causes would still be valuable to isolate/understand, especially as any unknowns can have further unknown effects, meaning the exact death toll isn't the end of the story. I'd also add that this death toll dwarfs many other sources of mortality that are screeched from the political rooftops such as 'gun violence' statistics (that are implied to be affect-able by legislation).

I'll happily file away this resource for later study. Thanks for sharing!

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Thanagor 6 points ago +8 / -2 (edited)

Given the timetable and lack of control group(s) (at least that I'm aware of), it would be hard to make that an actionable statistic (e.g. 100% of people who drink water die).

I'm oddly impartial on the topic of pro/anti-vax since I only see it as a practical tool - if used correctly its clearly preferable, but only if 'used correctly' is clearly defined and, well, clear.

Do you have a source on the 79.4% #? I'm interested in having a reference for deep-diving the topic.

Edit: I don't oppose doubts levied against vaccines, but those doubts don't have much connection/impact unless there's a clear connection to an actionable problem. The more general or disconnected the doubt, the less impact a doubt has in my mind (not nay-saying - just as an honest feedback).

To achieve impact, I'd reach past the actual vaccines themselves. I'd transparently highlight any investigative triggers (interest-arousing problem areas: X% of group, X% of vaccine, X% mortality = informal indicator). Second, I'd begin a formal analysis of actual [cause] -> [effect], such as >X% of [substance] = commonality across groups. This is just the bare-tip of formal because that is still correlation. It morphs into actionable once either 1) tests can reliably isolate its effects and/or 2) the cause-effect chain can be proven to not result from any other complex interaction(s) with other drug components, other drugs, patient physiology/biological makeup, other patient attributes, disease/syndrome effects, etc. This information is NOT intended to discourage your/our pursuit of the truth. It also isn't intended to alieviate the responsibility of drug manufacturers, etc. from adequate testing & legal culpability for unreasable conduct, but if we're going to make substantial assertions, it serves the seriousness with which we originally took up the topic to have real reasons/ownership for what we believe. That is all. =)

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Thanagor 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, was founded by FDR with the express intention of cutting the people out of the business of government. My opinion of the FBI went completely 180 when I researched it's origins and history leading up to the massive FISA/Church Committee hearings that rocked the nation. Needless to say, I was also completely blindsided by the fact that Watergate wasn't special because of what happened, just that Nixon was left holding the bag when the lights came on. That sort of political malfeasance has been going on for 100+ years and was when the Democrats got jealous their political opposition was using the same corrupt power against them.

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Thanagor 3 points ago +3 / -0

That wouldn't make any sense imo. He's worked his ass off to build up the show, so a 'quick cash out' doesn't really make sense (long investment =/= quick grab).

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure. If you're venting, I won't slap down anything you're saying then. You are correct on all your points.

Not sure you're into the Bible at all, but there's an account of Elijah just after he challenged the corrupt state (called down actual (nuclear) fire from heaven and consumed 850 false prophets and even the stones their sacrifices were laid on). After this amazing public victory, he was confronted by messengers/assurances he would be hunted to death by the infamous Jezebel. It is believed that he despaired at the insipid corruption she represented and fled to a cave in the wilderness and ended up just praying for God to end his life, as a failure who essentially saw the sun set on his people, who were his sacred change as a Judge annointed by God. God's reaction in this instance had a massive impact on my faith to this day. He first sent an angel to resuscitate Elijah. Then Elijah cried out again and God declared that He would reveal Himself in response. A gale broke apart the mountain, then an earthquake split the ground, and finally a "whispering breeze" which was the Lord. He bade Elijah cover his eyes and approach, gave him commands which turned the tide, and instead of feeding his guilt, chastising him, or exporting him to do better, God said specifically He KNEW every one of those still faithful, 7,000, those who one ever bent the knee to Him and had never broken faith or submitted to false God's or Ahab's corruption. Elijah left that cave and never again despaired because he knew he was not alone, not the last keeping the faith, and that gave him everything he needed to keep kicking absolute ass until God literally took him in a chariot of fire, one of two to never die on earth. (1 Kings, chapter 19 if you are interested).

I perceive & relate to your pain/feelings of gutless/do-nothing surrender, but know you are not alone. There are many more than the mere 7,000 that restored Elijah's resolve here in our nation. Let us use our freedom of speech in this season and also ready ourselves for a season of retribution that is sure to come.

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure. If you're venting, I won't slap down anything you're saying then. You are correct on all your points.

Not sure you're into the Bible at all, but there's an account of Elijah just after he challenged the corrupt state (called down actual (nuclear) fire from heaven and consumed 850 false prophets and even the stones their sacrifices were laid on). After this amazing public victory, he was confronted by messengers/assurances he would be hunted to death by the infamous Jezebel. It is believed that he despaired at the insipid corruption she represented and fled to a cave in the wilderness and ended up just praying for God to end his life, as a failure who essentially saw the sun set on his people, who were his sacred change as a Judge annointed by God. God's reaction in this instance had a massive impact on my faith to this day. He first sent an angel to resuscitate Elijah. Then Elijah cried out again and God declared that He would reveal Himself in response. A gale broke apart the mountain, then an earthquake split the ground, and finally a "whispering breeze" which was the Lord. He bade Elijah cover his eyes and approach, gave him commands which turned the tide, and instead of feeding his guilt, chastising him, or exporting him to do better, God said specifically He KNEW every one of those still faithful, 7,000, those who one ever bent the knee to Him and had never broken faith or submitted to false God's or Ahab's corruption. Elijah left that cave and never again despaired because he knew he was not alone, not the last keeping the faith, and that gave him everything he needed to keep kicking absolute ass until God literally took him in a chariot of fire, one of two to never die on earth. (1 Kings, chapter 19 if you are interested).

I perceive & relate to your pain/feelings of gutless/do-bothing surrender, but know you are not alone. There are many more than the mere 7,000 that restored Elijah's resolve here in our nation. Let us use our freedom of speech in this season and also ready ourselves for a season of retribution that is sure to come.

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

You seem to have a confirmation bias that no one sees what you see or feels the way you feel. I'll back up briefly and ask: what exactly are your intentions? Just venting? Or do you intend to accomplish something? Do you know what accomplishment looks like? Just offering an outlet to possibly sharpen your own views - use or disregard as you see fit.

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Thanagor 2 points ago +2 / -0

A flaw in your view is that Reddit, a prince of compromised platforms, was the springboard of our community simply due to their hosting of TD. The mods being compromised is somewhat irrelevant if their actions 1) enable online 'peaceable assembly' (verbage per the Constitution) and 2) relatively unfiltered (free) speech, which has been done.

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Thanagor 8 points ago +8 / -0

Jeff Epstein

123 Pedo Island Way

Didn't Kill Himself

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Thanagor 5 points ago +5 / -0

Think his last show specifically said he and the crew were going mobile and investigating all the supposed "voter-registered locations" like 5k people at a post office or Bill Clinton's favorite dress shop. On the ground documentation & reporting stuff.

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Community. You have to build it ground up and support each other and consciously, purposely articulate a culture they have to take away by force instead of simply the passive seige-by-social-blacklisting they are implementing now.

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same, what tf is up with the backups being wiped out left right and center. 👀

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0
  1. Since FDR founded the FBI, the executive agencies have abused the powers of "domestic prosecution" and "foreign surveillance".

  2. This abuse came in the form of blanket 'national security risk' of anyone who opposed the establishment, growing more extreme until the Church Committee blew the festering carcass of corruption wide open for the most part, although they fucking failed to dissolve the agencies as the final logical step and just implemented FISA, etc. instead.

  3. All the protections were effectively meant to wall off being able to investigate a citizen until you found or could fabricate a crime by applying Brother Eye of foreign powers against a domestic crime prosecution (e.g. if someone is spied on through legal channels, you can't charge them because you caught them smoking weed when your original stated purpose was foreign, like the Rosenburgs).

  4. A lot of this "separation" of powers/duties was undermined via the Patriot Act and subsequent renewals/additions because the IC bitched that domestic terrorists wouldn't be found via foreign surveillance methods etc. because of 'stovepiping', etc. (Flaming bullshit imo, but I digress. It is somewhat nuanced, but not to the degree of being valid.)

  5. That leads to Flynn, who Biden suggested be targeted via foreign surveillance powers and, as you know, he was charged with a domestic crime (lying to the FBI), which you cannot do. Flynn's judge - bitch ass Sullivan - did not give the faintest of fucks though and let the FBI do whatever they wanted, including bald-faced lie, forge documentation, threaten Flynn directly and indirectly, get away with evidenciary records that were 'recalled' several months after the fact for interviews with Flynn, etc.

  6. And now, as the final twist of the knife, it turns out the original thing that ousted Flynn (the claim that Flynn lied to VP Pence about talking to the Russian ambassador, which was literally his job as incoming national security advisor, when in reality it turns out Pence is a fucking snake in the grass and likely played Potiphar's wife to Flynn's Joseph (Bible story of false witness) because Flynn was an uncorruptible ally of Trump and a major, no-no sense asset to his administration in clearing out swamp corruption.

I skipped a fuck ton of detail, but hopefully that is all legible and makes sense. I'll be happy to retouch on anything, as I really tried to not muddle/bore you in one topic for too long, haha.

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fucking great. All I need right now is to be randomly clipping through the ground into nothing-hell...

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

What about working with your hands? I have several types of hobbies that involve molding, carving, woodworking, etc. if that sparks an interest. Physically making things is always my go-to when I'm running at or beyond empty - it lets my mind either rest or think at its clearest.

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Thanagor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or just restore what worked. A 'final solution' is always a lie in culture wars. It's like a 'final solution' for breakfast, lunch, & dinner. The only permanent solution is death - once you stop worrying about it and revert to what simply works you find it to be both doable and quite enjoyable.

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Thanagor 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yeah, seems like a lot of good youtubers went that direction, or rather the mask just dropped (H3H3, etc.). A new crop of Gen Z peeps have emerged though that have a lot of promise.

To your original point: I was aggressively impassive regarding the Proud Boys as recently as the presidential debates. Ever since then I am forced to respect those who actually take action, even if it's criticisable. At a certain point the lines between peace and war become blurred if people let themselves become weak and cede power to soft, cruel men by default.

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