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TomPain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yet all three will get record #s of votes in their next elections... and the media will say they are popular and the MAGA thing is a fringe. See how this works?

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TomPain 1 point ago +1 / -0

It means we will know by the end of this who is really MAGA or not.

And it will put a large % of Congress on the record of contesting the election which provides backup for other actions that Trump could take. In other words, if the process yields publicly-accepted proof of foreign interference and/or domestic criminal fraud.

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TomPain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Correct. But first, Congress can object to electoral votes and require fraud hearings. And if they force a vote on these objections which will make clear to the world who is MAGA and who is CCP.

And THEN Pence can reject.

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TomPain 10 points ago +10 / -0

Asking for someone to lead is not tantamount to being a slave. When we asked George Washington to lead this country, over and over and over again, was that just a bunch of people begging one man to give them their freedom?

This fight needs a leader. Trump is that leader.

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TomPain 2 points ago +2 / -0

One reason to force a vote in the Senate. Putting it in front of the public will require cards on the table for everyone to see. And Pence then has the backing of almost half of the senate. It's why the Senate leadership is trying to keep everyone in line, to avoid the public scrutiny of a vote.

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TomPain 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can have a hung jury. The judges will push and push, but they can't force a juror to change their vote.

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TomPain 2 points ago +2 / -0

And the military could livestream all voting tables and other vote processing and counting, and let the Internet handle the public poll watching role.

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TomPain 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you project what our society will look like once the covid propaganda program has run it's course... a devastated middle-class who have lost their savings and their service sector, manufacturing, retail, hospitality, and small business livelihoods... and a bunch of global (china-friendly) corporations with record profits, working hand in hand with an authoritarian (china-friendly) central government... and now with a willing population who will work for pennies to feed their families while all the real prosperity goes to the growing fortunes of the "elite" class.

Hmmm, seems like all of this magically turns the world into a bunch of countries that are structured a lot like China.

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TomPain 20 points ago +21 / -1

prefer a blockchain solution where all votes are visible to the world. open source the count, keep personal identification encrypted with private key.

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TomPain 7 points ago +7 / -0

can't cheat in the middle of the night, unless you send everyone home first.

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TomPain 2 points ago +2 / -0

Vote out the leftist governor, tar and feather the soros DA, and then let the rednecks toss all the leftists back into CA....

Yeah, guess OR is fucked. Let this be a warning to rural populations everywhere. Keep your cities in check...

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TomPain 1 point ago +1 / -0

He trusted the American middle class. It wasn't smarts, it was bravery to stand up against the elites and the ruling class. He reminded us all that this country is different.

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TomPain 5 points ago +5 / -0

Also, CA pedes need to vote to save uber, keep the CA constitution racially-blind, and defeat numerous new taxes... and give the finger to elites and vote trump 2020!

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TomPain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bullet, dodged. When it comes to leftists.. HIAQI

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