For those of you who weren't aware, one of the most common tests used for Covid-19 is a PCR test (polymerase chain reaction). This test is unique in the sense that it cannot have a false positive. Although it can have false negatives, very rarely.

The PCR test works like this:

1. Swab is used in the nose or throat.

2. If there is any Covid in the sample, it will trigger the polymerase chain reaction. There are no false positives because if there is no Covid, the reaction physically can't happen.

3. RNA of the virus is converted to DNA before they examine the results.

4. Seeing that the chain reaction has happened, and examining the DNA determines the person had Covid in their system.

The thing is with these tests though, is that they are so sensitive that pretty much ANY amount of Covid will trigger a positive. That means you could use that swab on a doorknob that someone who carries Covid touched recently and that doorknob may very well test positive. Obviously the doorknob is not infected.

From this, you can deduce something very important. There is an assumption made every time someone is found to be 'Covid positive'. It is assumed that because any amount of Covid is in their system, that they must be infected by it.

This would explain why so many people are 'asymptomatic'. It could just as accurately be said that they may not even be infected at all, but rather be 'carriers' of the disease.

This isn't to 'debunk' anything per se, but just to say that most reporting on this virus, including from the scientists who study this, is very misleading, or otherwise simplified too much.

I call it 'the illusion of a super contagious virus' because being a carrier doesn't even necessarily mean you'll spread it to other people, in the event you only have a very small amount in your system. And if you do spread it, you're bound to make other people into 'carriers'. All carriers have some probablility (I don't know the odds) of becoming infected. It may be the case that it spreads just as fast as any other disease, but that we're using tests that detect any trace of it anywhere.

Here's a process for the donald.win that I've noticed in my limited time here:

1. Someone posts exciting BS.

2. Exciting BS gets ton of upvotes.

3. Exciting BS comes true.

4. WINNING.

5. REPEAT AD INFINITUM

Here's the deal with certification of the MI election results:

1. 2 GOP board of canvasser members initially voted against certification.
2. They were told they had to vote that night.
3. Under public pressure, they caved and changed their verbal vote.
4. They are claiming they were lied to about their own authority, and wish to rescind their votes.
5. The Secretary of State is set to certify the results on the 23rd, unless they can succesfully rescind their votes.

There are two questions that need to be answered. Is the verbal vote legally binding? If they've signed off on it, do they have the authority to rescind their votes, even if they can't claim they were under duress?

Until these two questions are answered, this is Schrodinger's Election. Don't be calling this a win yet. Unfortunately, this is another legal battle that needs to be one I think, and it's one we should never have had to fight in the first place.

Check this link to the Detroit Free Press. Don't bother reading the article. They're lying to your faces. Just check the recorded Zoom call and see if you glean what I did from it: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/11/17/wayne-county-election-certification/6309668002/

Here's what I gleaned from it: Initially, the 2 GOP members of the board voted against certifying the results. There is some indication that they regret their vote, although I'm pretty sure there is no legal way to change your verbal vote within the meeting.

MSM is getting this backwards, saying they all cast their vote in favor of certifying, and then 2 changed their mind.

Did any autists want to spend their afternoon watching a 5 hour Zoom call to fact check me on this, just to make sure.

Please clap.

Does anybody have a link showing Giuliani pulled out of a lawsuit in Michigan to prevent the certification of the vote?

Is this actually true? It seems like bullshit to me. Rudy's bragging about stopping the certification, but the lawsuit is dropped? That doesn't make any gd sense.

I wouldn't be surprised if the source I'm using is lying, but a friend of mine just cited it.

Someone help me out here?

I don't care for the possibility that we might be wrong about there being fraud. I really don't care.

You know why? Because it isn't an act of dogma to question the results of an election, and if I'm wrong, then at least I was never caught dead telling anyone to 'trust the results'. At least I would never have subscribed to that bullshit dogma.

Better to be gullible and wrong than dogmatic and wrong. The gullible learn from their mistakes. The dogmatic can't even tell when they've made one.

HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH PEDES!

HIGH ENERGY ONLY!

DOOMERS GET FUCKED!

"There's no evidence of fraud."

"Trump poll watchers weren't let in!"

"That's not true. Here are the rules regarding poll watchers."

"They aren't following the rules!"

"Experts say people tend to follow the rules."

"We have affidavits!"

"The people in the affidavits don't understand how the machines work."

"They've demonstrated their understanding in the affidavits."

"There's no evidence of fraud."

Don't engage with shitheads that argue like this. It's just gaslighting. Instead, trumpet your positive message from the mountain tops and sneak it into your daily chatting. Truth spreads like a virus, and there is no cure.

LANDSLIDE 2020!

I was thinking,

Look at how many people were willing to elect Democrats solely for being Democrats. Once Trump is inaugurated for a second term, there will be no motivation for Dem supporters to come out in droves to vote against Trump. The Democrats have seemingly been able to get away with being so out of touch with their base while Trump's been in office by way of 'Orange Man Bad TM'. They won't have that to any substantial degree in his second term and beyond. I'm inclined to believe they've seriously fucked up in the long term.

EDIT: Sorry for the misleading title. The detail to which I was referring was not to suggest that Dems are somehow conservative. That's BS. It had to do with something that I decided not to put in the post, but I can't change the title...

I'm having a seriously hard time verifying the claim that PA ballot envelopes were destroyed. Does anyone have any evidence regarding this?! This is serious business as PA will likely determine the results of the whole election.

If this is true, it's huge and we should emphasize it as much as we can. If not, we should shift focus. We have hundreds of affidavits now corroborating bad behaviour in battleground states. We know something is up. IS THIS IT?

Assuming Trump team lawyers are really using this site as a resource (Lin Wood said he is), affidavits and substantiated claims are the best thing we can put forth. If you see a post that's totally unsubstantiated, do us all a favor and DON'T upvote it. Let the good stuff rise to the top.

Anyone have affidavits or otherwise corroborating claims that PA election officials destroyed mail-in ballot envelopes?

Pennsylvania law requires all mail-in ballot envelops be destroyed to preserve anonymity.

Federal law requires all documents be kept to preserve traceability.

If 100s of thousands of mail-in ballots are found untraceable, almost all for Joe, then there's the possibility that the EC might not convene for PA, meaning no 270, meaning the states vote and Trump wins THE WHOLE DAMN THING.

Sound plausible?

CORRECTION: Apparently PA law is what requires ballot envelopes to be kept. If the ballot envelopes were destroyed, that's a violation of PA election law: https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/uconsCheck.cfm?yr=2019&sessInd=0&act=77

We're all so confident. We know that Biden cheated.

No one else does. Twitter, Facebook, Fox News, The Daily Wire, CNN, and every other news source for that matter all do the same thing. They cater to what they think you believe and nothing else!

We don't have an algorithm here for truth, and we don't pretend to, but I seriously don't know how to deal with the idea that no one except us think Biden stole the election. Dems need to see this stuff more than we do. I think it's important that for whatever time you spend on this site, you spend more time talking with the Dems you know about this stuff.

And most importantly, stay the hell away from Twitter and Facebook. Even if there are still right-wing accounts you follow there, delete your account. Facebook and Twitter are so unbelievably toxic with how they try to seduce you into giving them more of your attention.

(Sorry in advance for the low energy post, but it needs to be said)

Trump's election-lawsuit legal team is a farce.

• They put forth poll-watcher lawsuits without collecting witness testimony.
• They challenge only a handful of ballots at a time relying only on hearsay or their own professional opinions. Or else, they challenge large numbers of ballots claiming that anything counted without valid poll-watching should not be counted (I agree, but how the hell is anyone supposed to prove that's what's necessary to a judge?)
• No mention of Benford's law by the Trump team.
• No mention of Dominion voting software and ties to the Dems.
• The few lawsuits that have been won led only to concessions (Trump poll watchers are allowed to watch the vote counting now, but all votes counted while they were gone are left untouched).

WHAT TRUMP'S TEAM NEEDS:

• File suits in the states where Joe Biden's vote counts most egregiously violated Benford's law.

• Demonstrate the effectiveness of Benford's law.

• Show how Joe Biden's votes violate Benford's law.

• COME EQUIPPED WITH ACTUAL EXAMPLES.

• Prompt an investigation, not a concession. The courts seem operate on the same set of 'by default there is no fraud' assumptions that the media rely on in spreading their BS narratives. The Trump team needs to adjust accordingly to challenge those assumptions and get the courts in alignment with further investigation.

• File suits in all states where Dominion voting software was used.

• Demonstrate the clear conflict of interest in using software provided by companies affiliated with the Democratic Party to count votes.

• COME EQUIPPED WITH SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE THAT THIS SOFTWARE COULD HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT.

• Prompt an investigation, not a concession.

Trump's legal team is alone. They're not '1000s of lawyers', they're a few dozen people max. Most law graduates are lefties, so that shouldn't surprise you. IF YOU ARE A LAWYER, contact the Trump team to offer to help, and TAKE THIS INTO YOUR OWN HANDS if you can.

There is no reason why the only people who can contest an election ought to be the candidates in it.

"America itself is the will to MAGA, and nothing else! You yourself are the will to MAGA, and nothing else!" -Based Nietzsche, probably

Does anyone know what the deal is with respect to >100% voter turnouts. I've been arguing with someone who seems to think that that's possible if you have same-day voter registration.

That doesn't make a damn bit of sense to me. It defeats the point of having a percentage if you don't use the final registered voter count as the comparison measure. Also, that would still mean that same-day registrations had to be large enough in magnitude to push the needle over 100%. E.g. 60% voter turnout initially, but then just as many new voters come along and their same-day registrations don't factor into the comparison so you get 120% turnout.

That also means that whenever you see 200% you would be seeing MORE than double the normal voter turnout, since normal voter turnout must be <100%.

Assuming it's true that same-day registration allows for >100% voter turnout, does this not still suggest fraud?

I've been a no-account lurker for a long while, and I have NEVER seen a forum with energy THIS FUCKING HIGH.

Looking forward to what's coming! TRUMP2020 SORT BY NEW AND UPVOTE ALL HIGH ENERGY POSTS!

Does anyone have any news or additional suspicion about the ballot duplication in PA that was making its way through posts yesterday?

I remember Newsmax with the Federal Election Commission chair saying he thought there might be voter fraud. Has anything come up to that effect?

I've been a no-account lurker for a long while and things move so quickly...