Yeah but I don’t know that.
Wanting her to renounce abortion is supporting evil? I’m not sure I follow.
Oh it’s uh...it’s called love of neighbor.
Why don’t you just use public transit?
“Many people say fusion could be our best chance. It’s incredible. They tell me it is. And that’s regular earth fusion, this is...it’s incredible.”
You beat me to it hahaha
While I agree it’s absurd to say that abortion is anyone’s right, we shouldn’t forget that while some rights have been enumerated in the Constitution, your rights aren’t created there and it isn’t an exhaustive list. That’s what the 9th Amendment is about.
Historical note, that’s why some opposed adding a Bill of Rights at all: they thought making a list of some of them would lead people to believe that’s all their were.
With any luck she saw the error of her ways on abortion at some point before the end. Policy differences are policy differences but abortion is something else.
With a slight adjustment (and that may be more a matter of personal opinion than piety), I completely agree with you.
It is perfectly acceptable to be glad to have stopped your enemy, saved your children, and lived to see tomorrow. It’s quite another to walk over and pee in the dead guy’s mouth.
You should be sorry that it ever had to come to that, at all.
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She isn’t past praying for for several reasons, though I get the feeling you didn’t pray for her during her life, either.
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Of course she committed a huge number of evil acts. As have (and do) you, me, and everyone else.
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Hoping for a political good to come of the situation is not what anyone is talking about regarding hatred of RBG. Hating her as a person is. It’s simply not permissible.
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Jesus has mercy for all, which is why he died for us while we were still sinners. Further, he wishes that all would ask forgiveness. He doesn’t bear hatred in his heart even for the sinner who has not repented, which is why he asked the Father to forgive even those who abused and murdered him. They weren’t repentant. The reason you can’t be forgiven without asking forgiveness has nothing to with whether not Jesus desires to forgive you. In any case, I’m not Jesus and it isn’t up to me...I am commanded to love my enemies.
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She was a sinner, just like you, and you have no knowledge of her internal wickedness. You’re making a distinction you have no standing to make. And you’re in great danger by doing so.
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Yes, do not give up even on the dead. Maccabees is explicit about this, but I take it you wouldn’t accept that. Paul prays for a dead man in 2 Timothy, in any case.
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I didn’t take it out of context at all. You are receiving a strict commandment not to do something which you are saying you ought to do. Your assertion that you ought to rejoice more as some act of mercy is the reading that truly contorts the meaning. Gloating about the fall of your enemy displeases God. That’s the plain meaning of the statement.
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According to you Job is a cuck. According to God, Job is a “blameless and upright man” who “turns away from evil” and there is “none like him on the earth.” That about sums up the problem with this whole thing, there.
The message of Christ is clear: love your enemies. It’s about as plain as it can be, my friend. You will be forgiven your sins in the same manner that you forgive others’. If you harbor hatred for others in your heart, there is no hope of salvation. Turn away from the insults and the hatred you are spreading. Would Jesus call someone a cuck? Try to imagine it. If you can’t envision this happening, then you are wrong to do so either. If you can envision it, then you are imagining a false Jesus.
You know, Jesus probably knew what he was talking about. It’s laughable to think that I could come up with a better strategy to deal with my enemies than Peter and Paul.
We will never win by hatred. Not ever.
I remember once I asked my very conservative priest about why the Church doesn’t go out there and kick some ass over some of these issues, thinking he’d be sympathetic and commiserate with me. It was pretty humbling when he rebuked me and said “you’re thinking like the world. The Church is the body of Christ and the Christian is to imitate Jesus. Did Jesus come and take up the sword and tear down the Roman Empire? No. Jesus brought down the Empire and saved the world as the suffering servant. That is the model he left us.”
It is so tempting to want to crack skulls and repay evil with vengeance...but it’s a failed strategy and it’s wrong. There are times when you may, out of justice, have to take up the sword. But there is never a time when you are to hate your fellow man.
By the way, I also used to be an anarchist punk.
You answered your own question at the end there, brother.
“If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially his own family, he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” - Paul
I carry a gun. I would defend my family, whom God has given into my care. But if I turned the obligation to protect my loved ones into hatred of my enemy, I would be wrong.
Both things—not one or the other—are true and binding, whether you think that’s “cuck” or not.
Love your enemy. It’s not a suggestion.
“You have heard it said ‘love your neighbor and hate your enemy’, but I say to you love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” -Jesus
“Do not return evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary bless, for this you have been called.” - Peter
“Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them...repay no one evil for evil...never avenge yourself, but leave it to the wrath of God...if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink...do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil by good.” - Paul
“You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you besought me, and should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?” -Jesus
“If someone slaps you, offer him your other cheek, too. If someone steals your coat, do not stop him from taking your shirt also...if you love only the people who love you, what praise should you get? Even sinners love the people who love them.” - Jesus
“Love does not remember wrongs done against it...love never gives up on people.” -Paul
“Do not gloat when your enemy falls, and when they stumble do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see and disapprove.” - Proverbs
“Have I ever rejoiced when disaster struck my enemies, or become excited when harm came their way? No. I have never sinned by cursing anyone or by asking for revenge.” -Job
We should certainly hate evil, but that does not extend to hating those who do it. Instead, we should hope for their salvation as God does: “Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?”
No there is no room for us to rejoice in the fall of others. We must love them as God does. Evil remains evil, but there, but for the grace of God, go I.
I love you also, Pede.
More like 5-4 because John Roberts has rolled over, but still.
A lot new comers probably don’t even realize it refers to a real event. But we veterans remember. We were there.
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Leaked interview reveals...
Meanwhile, there is no interview and the “leak” is some Obama appointee that was recently let go.
Well, I am a particularly religious person and I appreciate you. There is a lot of anger and a lot of wrath around here, and all of it is understandable. But we must continue to do what is right and love each other and even our enemies.
I can tolerate differences of political opinion. I can respect people who genuinely feel differently than I do about taxes and immigration and public health. But support for abortion is not a political position. It is the endorsement of evil.
Supporting abortion is not unwise or imprudent--it is wrong and disgusting. On taxes, on education, I entertain the possibility that I might be wrong. But on abortion, I don't have to wonder. The soul that supports abortion is diseased and in need of healing.
Do you have something against Saturdays?
I mean...there's a prediction that cannot fail.
Now there is a person with clarity of purpose.