Nothing you mentioned is even close to fraud. Lol. Having ambitious goals that come true late is not the same as lying. Having ambitious goals that never come true is not lying or fraud. You think a CEO making forward looking speculative statements constitutes a personal pinky-swear promise to you? Ever single public company say this at the beginning of every earnings call: "these are forward looking statements and should not be taken as a guarantee of future events". Every single company does this. Earnings calls are not a court of law.
Regarding the capital raise, the stock jumped like crazy after that call and after he said that. It didn't make sense to dilute at the price during the call, it made a lot more sense when he could get almost 800 a share. That drastically changed the situation. This is not lying, lol. And under what circumstance could that circumstance even be considered fraud? Even if you were right (which you are not), why would it be fraud for a CEO to change his mind about raising capital? Who was de-frauded there?
When did he "promise" autonomous vehicles? And who cares if someone promises something and it ends up being more difficult then they thought or never comes true? That isn't fraud. Being wrong is not fraud.
Shoddily built? If thats what you think, then don't buy them. But that doesn't make anything a fraud. I think you are using the word "fraud" instead of "someone I don't like and a company I wouldn't buy from". The good news is that there is nothing forcing you to buy anything from any of Elon's companies, so cheer up.
The SEC thing about the tweet about going private was not a good decision by Elon. I'm guessing he wishes he could take that back. I am trying to figure out who was de-frauded in that scenario though? The stock probably jumped after he said that, but it has since then more than doubled. Longs certainly didn't end up being hurt, and shorts have gotten wrecked regardless. Who was hurt by that tweet?
How is he a fraud? Ask anyone who owns a Tesla and they will likely tell you it is the best vehicle they have ever had. Do you see how many dedicated youtube channels are just to Tesla. People like their stuff. I watch SpaceX land rockets to re-use, something everyone said was impossible before they started doing it. What exactly makes him a fraud? The 420 tweet? This man has made so many people rich and provides so many good jobs, do you really think we would be better off if Elon didn't exist? That is ridiculous.
lol. If he is a fraud then what are you? Elon's companies employ tens of thousands of good jobs in America. Tesla is worth over 100 billion dollars. SpaceX is probably worth over 50 billion. Let's stack up his resume to yours and see which one is better.
It’s actually a really good question, not to be dismissed. If we are saying we are willing to shut down the economy to save a hundred thousand lives, why don’t we outlaw driving? Heck, think how many lives would be saved by just telling people they can never go outside for anything. This is ridiculous, and I think it is retarded to destroy 10s of millions of jobs and small businesses for a couple hundred thousand people. Many of these small businesses are never coming back, and they worked their whole lives to build up their business.
Resveratrol is the compound in red wine. I think you are referring to remdesivir from Gilead. Not sure that is going to work though, but we will know shortly because trials are underway. This article from yesterday does not sound great https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2020/03/13/gilead-coronavirus-covid19-clinical-trials/
you are just mad because Session's failure and Trump's clear statements about Session's failures prove your stupid Q conspiracy stuff wrong, and you know it. So you have to cling on, because you want Q stuff to be true, even though it clearly isn't. By saying "we only know what we are told, and during times of war...", you are actually saying "there is nothing that can happen that will make me change my mind because I believe in something that isn't supported by facts and what we know and what keeps happening". Didn't Q also say to "trust horowitz and the IG report?" and that the "2018 midterms were safe?" And didn't he want us to "trust Huber"? lol
I don’t think there is anything close to 30k here yet. When we get there in a few weeks, this place is going to be freaking awesome tho. Cloudfare is the problem tho- it doesn’t take a genius to see that being a problem
Tell me how to donate please. If you make it clear where the money is going, this community will support this site. We understand running something like this isn’t free, and we are going to be targeted by everyone eventually.
lol. So you think that Tesla projecting they will sell 500k cars in the next 12 months, before all the coronavirus stuff happened, is going to be a "straight-up undeniable" lie if it doesn't come true? I guess every single public company is going to end up straight-up, undeniably lying according to you. Every company is going to miss estimates this year because of covid. When did he say they were profitable and they weren't? Again, regarding raising capital- people can change their mind when new developments happen. This is not lying and not fraud.
Why do you think anything forward-looking on an earnings report is a promise? You keep thinking that. That is 100% not true. Every earnings call specifically says this. It sounds like you don't understand that earnings call forward-looking statements do NOT equal promises or guarantees.
Regarding lying about a buyer that didn't exist- can you walk me through who was de-frauded in that scenario? If they were, can't they sue Elon? But who was hurt by that tweet? Was it longs or shorts? Explain it to me please.