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clocker23 21 points ago +22 / -1

Can't the AZ governor send and setup their national guard (with rifles & ammo! no point in sending them there unarmed...) to protect the building, the ballots, machines, auditors, etc.? Have the auditors set up to do it from beginning to end, with cots, food, amenities, etc.; no one comes or goes til the audit is done (so Antifa can't follow people home and/or dox or attack them or their families). Guard the parking lots, so no one's cars get torched or vandalized.

If patriots want to help protect, they need to inform and coordinate with the auditors and the NG. Don't want anyone mistaken for Antifa/BLM and get shot! Maybe set them up at an outer perimeter? Set up watches for the day or two of the audit.

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ve seen more than my share of Brand on his various YouTube videos (a housemate is oddly fond of him, don’t know why... has sex appeal to the ladies, maybe?); then again, it may just be the few that I’ve come across? He sounds reasonable to me. He certainly not one of us.. But he can and do think.

I’ve have to go back and check out a few more of his videos (recent ones, of course, beginning-to-end, to get greater context as compared to the snippets as I’ve had) to see if I can detect true intelligence & wisdom. It may all be for show; I’ll take a more critical eye. Thx for your opinion.

As Spock says “It is easier for the civilized to behave like savages, than for savages to behave civilized.

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clocker23 3 points ago +3 / -0

Russell Brand is often seen/portrayed as a comedic buffoon/weirdo. But he is FAR smarter and sensible than people give him credit for. Listen to what he says, and pay attention to his vocabulary. He's no intellectual slouch. And he is popular. The Left would do well not to underestimate him.

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clocker23 3 points ago +3 / -0

*Demoralization is the first step. *-- Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov His full 1984 interview, on deception and spreading communism to the West:

https://rumble.com/vb2z4n-yuri-bezmenov-full-1984-interview-deception-was-my-job.html

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lie and propagandize all day long without breaking a sweat.

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Notice the deft painting of Gab as a place for extremist. No proof. No statistics. No facts. Just a naked accusation. Lies & damn lies. The Left can't say anything anymore without spouting crap. Sick.

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clocker23 9 points ago +9 / -0

DeSantis' use of hand gestures for emphases seem reminiscent of another fantastically effective officeholder... ::thumbs up::

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Grow some balls and stop pussyfooting around, AZ Senate. Sheriffs, battering rams and handcuffs. Get the audits done, already.

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nice description of what you are in fact doing. Way to use Leftist/Alinsky tactics. Get back to us when you have something of significance to say.

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

The head of the legislature said she had not reached out to them at all when they were crafting the bill, and for at least the first week after the veto she did not send the legislature any detailed problems she had with it.

Are there phone and email records of the sponsors and the authors of the bill verifying that they in fact reached out to Noem for input? If not, why do you assume what is said by the S.D. legislature is not them making an excuse for a failure to get a clean bill thru and signed? Trying to place blame on someone else? [last I checked, legislatures write bills, not the governors; they're supposed to work together to solve problems.] Why are they trying to place blame instead of making changes to the bill as suggested? Or, better yet, make it like Tennessee's Law on the subject, that Gov Noem has specifically said she would sign? Is there ego involved? Personal animosity? What gives? FYI, the GOP owns both chambers and the governorship.. since 1992. There's no reason why they can't come up with something good, something more bomb-proof against suit.

I don't need to know the bullshit excuses her lawyers came up with after the fact.

Again, you seem to have a problem with Noem, but don't appear to have similar problem with the state legislature. Why is that?

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

As to the courts... Despite of the balance of the Ninth Circuit mostly being corrected by President Trump, it is by no means a conservative court. En banc, they still lean Left (treats the Constitution as a "living one".. ugh)

And, as we found out the hard way, post Election 2020, nominating/placing Justices on the Supreme Court is no guarantee that they won't reveal themselves to be gutless wonders!

Be any of that as they may, why would one want to hurry-hurry to push a bill thru and sign it, when the time to make it right IS during the legislative process? Why not make it better before turning it into law. It's a given that Leftists & trans will attack whatever any state passes. Why make it an easier job for them? Why rely on & chance it on the courts to adjudicate correctly? Simpler to get the best possible bill thru, no? Is anyone claiming that the N.Dakota bill is as unassailable as possible? Isn't the Tennessee bill better/stronger? Why not adopt that language, or something like it? Why is the SD legislature trying to override instead of negotiating with Gov Noem? What is their angle? There's something unsaid here, and I can't quite figure out what...

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

(1) Did she veto the bill? Or just didn't sign it? [Don't know SD's state constitution, but at the federal level

The Constitution grants the president 10 days to review a measure passed by the Congress. If the president has not signed the bill after 10 days, it becomes law without his signature. However, if Congress adjourns during the 10-day period, the bill does not become law.

The president's inaction on the legislation, while Congress is adjourned, represents a pocket veto.

(2) My understanding of it is that Gov Noem sent the bill back to the legislature with her objections and suggestions. Are you saying that she didn't include those objections and suggestions to the state legislature at the time she sent it back? And then 2 weeks later she added her reasons/suggestions? Or are you saying that she didn't explain it to her constituency til two weeks later?

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

So... I take it then, you haven't read any of the things listed, right? And yet you have such a definite opinion of the situation and of Governor Noem... [I will gladly admit wrong, if you have.] If you have, then I'd love to hear specifics as to your objections to her not signing; vague, blanket non-specific comments don't count.

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Different tack (since I'm not even sure you answered my question...): What exactly do you mean by "No more free passes"? And what will you do as a consequence?

^^ Honest questions, I'm not being facetious or what.

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clocker23 2 points ago +2 / -0

^^ Thx for finding that, and posting its link.

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry you have so little class as not to be able to discuss anything without insults and attacks. Your parents must be really proud. LOL

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clocker23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can't address what someone says, so attack the person. Weak, man. Weak.

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clocker23 0 points ago +2 / -2

I agree with most of what you say. Now, are you ready to run for office? BTW, how many MAGA people, here and elsewhere, have we got firm commitments to run in the next election? And 2024?

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clocker23 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'd love to go over that. Sounds like you're familiar with Noem's voting record. Post a link or two as to her record? If there is another (non-Leftist) site that's analyzed her voting record, I'd love to read that, too. Thanks in advance.

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