It's really sad. Great cities and neighborhoods are being overtaken by crime, slumlords and welfare parasites. All the history and culture destroyed while the middle class tax payer foots the bill. We need mandatory birth control for welfare recipients at the very least. Or we need to just split up, go our own separate ways and we each fend for ourselves. Sorry, Ill miss all the wonderful times we had but this relationship is pretty one sided and isn't working out
Is the media pushing for a return to segregation? Because the way they squeal about every single thing being a racist white-on-black white-supremacist slight against black people - the only logical conclusive to draw is that we are all incapable of living in shared spaces
I hope you're never in a situation where you have to defend yourself or family with deadly force. Burglaries in the neighborhood had been on going for months, many people called the cops, but it was always too late. Now the think they see the burglar running out of the house and try to stop him while they wait for the cops to finally show up. Arbery could have very well been armed for all they knew and they would need their guns. They probably weren't counting on a jogger so fucking dumb that he would run straight at a group of armed men and attack them
First is the "citizens arrest". You can only arrest someone if you are direct witness to a crime.
Stop repeating this tired talking point. It's not true.
I'm free to tell you to fuck yourself and leave.
Yeh, you are. But you're not free to attack and try to take someones gun
With a guy brandishing a shotgun
Source? I dont see the gun aimed at anyone until after Arbery attacks and tries to take it.
Arbery probably thought these shitheads with guns were a threat to him so he tried to defend himself.
Arbery thought he was gonna be a gansta or is just an idiot who didnt think at all. Who the fuck walks toward a guy with a gun and attacks him, especially when he's part of a group that is also armed?? He initiated the attack and if he managed to get the gun those guys have every reason to think he would use it on them. Pretty clear cut case of self defense
Nowhere in the video is a gun pointed at him before he attacked. You are assuming there is, because it is known that they have guns. You can't back this up with the facts we have. It's possible that they preemptively brandished their weapons, which would be wrong. But we do not see that on the video.
I'm just breaking down the facts. Nothing they did was illegal from the facts presented. It appears that they were attempting to perform a LEGAL citizens arrest to hold him until the police arrives(who they were on the phone with). He escalated and initiated the violence by physically attacking them and trying to take the gun.
I agree that pointing the gun at someone is life threatening. There is no evidence they pointed their guns at him prior to him attacking. Do you have anything I am missing?
If they pointed their guns at Arbery before he attacked or threatened them, they would be in the wrong there and it would further complicate the case. It still wouldn't excuse Arbery of attacking them and going for the gun. That is suicide, there are 3 armed guys there and you are gonna go for one of their guns? That leaves them absolutely no choice but to shoot him. However, again, I have seen no evidence they drew their guns on him prior to him attacking
No it fucking isn't. An "act of violence" has to include, get this, VIOLENCE. No one even touched him you looney.
Open carry is legal. Parking a truck is legal. Trying to talk to someone you think is suspicious is legal. And if they were planning to make a citizens arrest because they had identified him as the perp who has been caught on video multiple times coming back to that neighborhood and stealing stuff, THAT is also legal. We dont know if they were planning to make a citizens arrest and hold him for the police or just talk to him - because he fucking attacked them and tried to steal their gun. Then to the surprise of no one with half a brain, he got shot
More importantly, Arbery initiated the violence. He attacked a guy with a gun and tried to wrestle the gun away from him. Never mind that there were two other armed guys there. So fucking dumb. How did he, or the other people REEEing possible think that could end? He either succeeds in stealing the gun and uses it on the owner, then gets shot but his friends. Or they shoot him before he steals the gun, saving their friends life. No jogger with an above room temp IQ would try to attack and disarm a group of three armed men.
that's what desperation smells like