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generated_name 23 points ago +23 / -0

Impeachment is happening so fast because the freaking speaker of the house went mad with power and demanded it happen without going through committee and apparently nobody, but like 5 people in the house, cared.

People complain about our politicians being corrupt; but don't forget they're also stupid and lazy too. They let this crap happen and then talk about "Attacks on democracy".

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generated_name 1 point ago +1 / -0

PLEASE DO SOMETHING!!! Declass, insurrection act, EVEN MARTIAL LAW AND TRIBUNALS ARE WORTHY OF THIS F#$%ERY!!!

I don't mean to be a downer but...

He cannot use the insurrection act or martial law. The former cannot be used for election related issues because of changes made to it after 1875, the latter can only be used if every other part of government and the courts are shut down. Lincoln use martial law during the civil war and even that was found to be unconstitutional. Either way though, he doesn't have the military support to do either of those things. As far as military tribunals, those are only used for people in the military. You can't put someone like Pelosi in front of one.

Declassifying things is something he can do, and something he might be saving as a parting shot for right as he leaves. He should also pardon Assange and Snowden. I'd be interested in his reasons for not doing so yet actually.

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generated_name 1 point ago +1 / -0

He pretty much has to come out and say things as clear as possible now. Otherwise he'll get people (even here) interpreting, or trying to get others to interpret, literally anything he says as "I command all Americans to bring guns and shoot people".

That's close to what some thought "big protest, will be wild" meant, and there was no convincing them otherwise. Then the 6th happened, and so now we have this.

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generated_name 1 point ago +2 / -1

The main reason for our loss there wasn't cheating, it was that the candidates didn't get the support in counties where they needed it. The turnout was not high enough. People can't cry about cheating when they refuse to even participate, there by making the other side NOT have to cheat.

Can we please stop listening to anything Lin Wood says now. He hasn't done us any good.

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generated_name 1 point ago +1 / -0

the speech is kinda useless

The impeachment cannot be stopped in the house. It will go though.

But speeches like this are important because they show us the bravery of the speakers. In a time where almost every institution and corporation is against us, they still choose to stand by us knowing it will most likely ruin much of their political and personal future. We have had targets painted on our backs, and now they are going to have them on theirs too.

We should remember them.

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generated_name 3 points ago +3 / -0

Some people don't see where this goes. I've seen this happen before.

Just remembering back to GamerGate I can you that it will start with stuff like gore, then move up to something worse and it will keep going as long as we survive until it ends with sick individuals deliberately posting CP and screenshotting the post they made of it to use as "proof" that we posted it.

There is no coming back for us if it's allowed to get to that point. We need some sort of restrictions on what newer users can post.

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generated_name 2 points ago +2 / -0

We definitely need to have rules for newer accounts.

I'd say something like no creation of new posts until 24-48 hours after account creation. Then not being able to do anything but Text posts until comment karma (or whatever we call it here) reaches a certain number or the account has been active for like 14 days.

I have no idea how hard doing something like that would be though. I know subreddits did stuff like that; but this is a completely different situation.

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generated_name 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hew covered the election fraud pretty well. In fact he was one of the best with it in my opinion. If I remember right, his livestream was still going early on Nov 4th and they were watching the steal happen live and talking about it. Then they had another one about 5 hours later where he showed video of ballots being unloaded in Detroit.

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generated_name 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think he actually got remonitized a few months ago. I remember him joking about it.

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generated_name 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll agree with you partially.

I don't think it was an absolute joke of a theory. He could have chosen to do it if he really wanted to; but you're right in saying he was never going to do it. He would have been telegraphing that he would way beforehand. He would have said probably in November "Look, I'm not going to accept slates of electors that I believe were fraudulently certified", or something similar. Since he didn't, it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to do anything. He may have even come to the conclusion that we could survive 4 years of Biden; but not 4 years of the type of unrest caused by him throwing electors out.

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generated_name 2 points ago +2 / -0

Crazy.

Before the 6th I had seen a couple posts here warning about Antifa being there dressed like us and I'd heard at the past marches that there were a couple incidents where that tactic was used to attack people who were leaving. I never thought they would go quite this far with it. This took an insane amount of preparation and organization on their part.

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generated_name 1 point ago +1 / -0

The reason Dominion didn't sue early on, when they could have is because they wanted Lin and Sidney to spread as much false info about them as possible. Then they could file this suit, which they will probably win, and it will cause people to ignore all the real issues with their software, and it will make Trump look bad because they were connected to him.

It's sad too, because I don't believe Sidney deliberately did it.

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generated_name 3 points ago +3 / -0

they HAD some kind of massive terror incident planned for the 6th.

Definitely. I think they were expecting the capitol to be burned and for people to try and take hostages and all kinds of other craziness. The MSM and certain politicians seem to already have had speeches prepared about it.

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generated_name 1 point ago +1 / -0

The way it's being played in the media is that the followers of a political candidate tried to overthrow the government. That feels worse to people than the riots, especially because it has been a few months since those were even in the public consciousness.

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generated_name 6 points ago +6 / -0

Unfortunately, I think we're going to have to give people a break on this. At least for a while. If you weren't there, or weren't watching things right as they unfolded, like most of us here were, then it's very easy for your view on what went on to be tainted by media reporting, even you try not to let that happen. I've heard people are reporting the people there were armed, and that would make the situation sound very different to people hearing about it.

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generated_name 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can blame stuff Like Q and people like Lin Wood for a lot of the reactions you're seeing. It's because of them that people feel like Trump hasn't done everything he could have, and also because of them that a few people along with Antifa thought it would be a good idea to storm the capitol (that whole thing was a set up). Had that not happened then things would be different right now.

But Trump always said that if the electoral votes didn't go his way then there would be a transition. Biden was almost guaranteed to take office. People should have been preparing themselves mentally for that possibility. The president is doing what he said he would do.

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generated_name 5 points ago +5 / -0

There was a time before all this, when a small amount of people saw the world for how it was and got told "that's just a conspiracy theory, man its not that bad". That small group of people stuck it out. They knew what was true and still put up with stuff, even from their closest friends. They made it, and so can you.

Endless opportunities are about to open up where you can make a difference. This county has been close to the edge before, and we've teetered on it a couple times; but it was brought back from the edge in the past and we can do it again. MAGA isn't going anywhere. Don't give up.

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generated_name 0 points ago +1 / -1

Imagine Dominion but on a larger scale. That's all they'll need to do.

They cannot do that if it's prevented at the local level. Even so, Dominion was not the main culprit for the fraud. The majority of it was done the old fashioned way, and was made easier in certain areas by the use of law-fare. We can fix that.

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generated_name 1 point ago +3 / -2

Elections will be rigged from the top. The only winners are going to be the people they select. Being a poll watcher or an election commissioner won't do you any good.

Elections have never been rigged from the top, and weren't this time either. Everything that was done, was done at the local level. Illegal votes counted: local, votes thrown out: local, counties certifying bad results: local, no signature verification: local, throwing out poll watcher: local, shitty voting machines being used: local / state, votes being allowed after election day: local / state. All those things can be changed if we hold the positions that control them.

If it had really be rigged from the top down, then the election results would have all matched what the fake polling said. Democrats would have gained more swing states, and gained legislatures and house seats; but that didn't happen.

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generated_name -4 points ago +2 / -6

Elections can totally be straightened out. It's just that we have to be the ones to do it. It requires people to get out and actually do things, like become poll watchers and election commissioners and join canvasing boards and keep pressure up on there state legislatures to make changes.

Or you can be a defeatist and pretend like your going to be part of a "revolution" which there is 0 wide support for, instead of doing the hard work.

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generated_name 20 points ago +20 / -0

That's from the song I Still Believe by Jeremy Camp (never knew about a movie). She's not talking about The President. She's saying she still trusts God even when she doesn't know what's going to happen next.

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generated_name 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our system as it was created is perfectly fine and scalable, with maybe a few changes. The problem is that system has been altered in so many different ways now that it isn't what people think it is.

Just for example: senators used to be chosen by state legislature. That kept them more accountable and kept their terms short. It meant they were harder to buy off by big corporations because they were just going to be gone soon anyway (a lot of times in less than there full term). After that was changed, via constitutional amendment, was when we started seeing senators staying in for 20+ years. They never have to see the people who voted for them, and they aren't accountable to their states ruling body. Graham or McConnell couldn't exist in the old system.

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generated_name 23 points ago +23 / -0

Yeah, I ran into that also.

This would be a much different site if people had been listening to Barnes and not Lin Wood.

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generated_name 3 points ago +4 / -1

Since they did not rule against him, only chose not to hear the case, that means there hasn't really be president set here and another case challenging section 230 can be brought to them that they could chose to rule on.

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