minecraft, i had to look that up and found out its a kids game. are you old enough to vote? i'm not on here playing around, i'm trying to ensure we win an election.
i really wish you the best in your fight - as mentioned we already have mail in voting (for over a decade) in Florida so it isn't going away - I don't really appreciate the weak willed faggot comment since I have no dog in your fight to abolish vote in mailing in your state. I am trying to give you some ideas - maybe do both - play it from both angles - say NO WAY and then additionally say if you allow vote by mail, here are the stipulations we demand
we learn a lot from mistakes we make - wish i could go back and talk to my younger self... but having a family I can rely on is one of the the things thats gets me through the day. Good luck with everything - wish you all the best.
traitor? I love that a few people on this site are quick to go to name calling instead of considering alternate ideas - so good luck stopping the mail in voting in your state. I hope you are calling your congress members daily about it. My state already allows mail in voting along with a handful of others, and I trust it - as stated before.
Fixing potential problems before they become problems is a much wiser path than just saying "no". I'm sure "standing up" isn't going to stop the mail in ballots since those screeching communists make up 1/2 of america - plus you have the elderly conservatives (like my father) that want to vote for President Trump but are afraid of catching COVID and won't go to the voting booth.
Here's a crazy idea: if all the republicans voted by mail and publicly verified it, then we would easily point out any fraudulent activity.
I think President Trump knows vote by mail is coming to many states and is why he keeps mentioning it. He wants voters to do something to make sure it isn't fraudulent - he is also is looking for alternate ideas - like moving the election date.
I presented one idea, and you just saying "no" is another - but even if all Republicans - even the ones you call RINOs join with you, the only states that you're going to make a difference in are red states and if the government in those states are Republican led, then they should be able to weed out any voter fraud - or they aren't doing their job. How about we come up with some other ideas to make sure we have a fair election?
if i may ask, why did you move back? and are you a dual citizen?
wow - good to know about Canada - didn't think you were burdened with tons of regulations - i grew up in Ohio near steel mills and that industry is mostly gone to china. the towns that were once awesome places to live aren't anymore. I now live in Florida. Moved here when I turned 30. As high and college school kids we visited Canada a few times because it was legal to drink at 18. I remember a friend who smoked was pissed at the price of cigarette there and we found out there was a few people that made a living out of transporting cigarettes from the US to Canada and selling at a markup (still cheaper than buying in Canada). I am not sure if that import taxes or due to some sort of sin tax. Years back I was speaking with a 30ish year old Canadian who loved the health care system up there. I don't know a lot about it, but we are told there are long waiting lines and a lot of red tape when you socialize medicine instead of having private care as we do here. Whenever I mentioned to a friend here, their take was it is good if you just go to regular scheduled visits but the emergency rooms care isn't as good once socialized. The Canadian I mentioned said dental, vision and hearing was all included and wa shocked some people in the states didn't have dental or vision care I am not old enough, but from what I understand vision and dental isn't included in medicare benefits here in the states either (medicare being our closest thing to socialized medicine). Whats your insight on healthcare there vs here?
thanks - i really do care about our small towns and i care about our history and i care deeply about America. No i don't think big tech should be in charge of history since it would be easy for them to change the narrative. just trying to think up a solution for this situation and i thought i had a cool idea. I grew up in a small town (don't live there now) that is crappy now since we import everything from China. Sorry to toss blame your way. We seem to be slowly offshoring everything in America and I took an easy shot at you since you were not living in this country - that is not your fault - it was a crappy deal made when the Democrats were in charge. I am not sure how you feel about NAFTA, but it seems Canada and Mexico made out better than the USA. There are many people on this forum that simply agree there are problems but offer no solutions - or even think about other opportunities that are available. I want to help come up with solutions and really examine all aspects of problems - cause we may be missing something if we just repeat problems someone else stated instead of listening to the problem and offering a solution for discussion. Thanks for engaging in a good discussion with me - i don't think we solved anything but at least there is some alternate ideas in this thread now.
thanks man - we all need to stick together on this stuff - my intent was never to be an annoying ass - and my wife does say i am sometimes - so maybe not thanks for validating her LOL.
but i am really just trying to think of some solutions to problems I see us facing. I know we have a long of way to go to Make America Great - and we aren't going to get there without President Trump.
You could just not pay attention to my comments - I am really not trying to annoy you, I am trying to make sure President Trump is re-elected. I am hoping to get people to help me with solutions. Please join me and lets make sure we have the right outcome
hmmm - interesting. don't want to try to ensure accurate mail in ballots? i am ok with being wrong, but you have not offered any ideas other than to take a stance that i am wrong about florida's mail in ballot system. you just keep saying mail in voting brings fraud. what's your solution? lets try to help the states that are getting mail in balloting. i hope your state doesn't flip blue this election.
heres what i hear from:
President Trump says mail in ballots are on their way President Trump says mail in ballots bring fraud I am not going to do anything about mail in ballots and I am going to attack someone who is trying to present a solution by calling them a cunt, crazy and incompetent Your are wrong about secure mail in ballots because you live in a swing state even though your state has had mail in voting for many years under the administration of mostly Republican government officials who have never worried about mail in ballot fraud
go - give me your solutions to the problem President Trump is presenting
again - what are you doing about this issue? why are you not trying to help our president? I am giving you solutions for when your state officials enact vote by mail. President Trump can't force states to disallow vote by mail. The democrats are crying for it, it is going to happen. I am not crazy, President Trump is warning you and asking you to enact change in your state. If you can stop vote by mail in your state do it - if you cannot stop it (which is going to be the case for most states), best do your damnedest to make sure it is as secure as possible. If you are not part of the solution, then stop trying to i people who are tossing out solutions. Referencing a warning from the President isn't a solution - do some work!
and now who is trolling - trying to make it look like i want to tear down a specific statue
i don't want tear down anything - i am not a stupid antifa idiot out causing pain to people and businesses. i never said lets get together and tear anything down. i said is it worth protecting a statue with soldiers?
I also agreed that there is maintenance and cost required with virtual statues and even threw out any tax in agreement with you. I was trying to solve your issue and worries over you great grandfather's statue. I care about a town dying, but i don't buy into your belief the town is only making it do to a statue. I still believe we are wasting time, money and people guarding any statue. and many of our town's died when we exported auto manufacturing to canada and mexico with nafta
I agree with your last paragraph 100% - it is what I was saying with my initial post. I was trying to come up with a solution for your personal issue with the statue at kittyhawk. The virtual statue may not be the answer - I am just trying to throw out ideas. Truth is that statue probably won't fall and we're wasting time discussing it and the town near it. If the statue helps the local economy and it most likely won't be vandalized then why waste time discussing? I also wonder why we have canadians commenting in American matters?
Going to try this another way and see if it is more effective: I am very confident in my state's (Florida) vote by mail system. I have used it in the past 3 presidential elections and many state and local elections in between. I think I trust it more than our state's vote in person system. Since most states are going to be forced into allowing some form of mail in voting, why not advocate for a system similar to Florida's?
Florida's vote by mail system:
- Voter must request mail in ballot - ballots are not just sent to everyone
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election officials verify your request form data matches the data they have on file from state issued IDs - so home address is verified and you won't get a ballot if you request it be mailed somewhere that is different than the address on your state ID. Citizenship could be verified at this time as well (I don't want people to argue non citizens can get driver's licences in their state)
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so now we've made sure only real people who are citizens are receiving a ballot
- Voter must sign ballot across a seal that encloses the ballot
- election officials match this signature to the signature on file (on your state issued ID) thus doing an identity check. This with the address match should be sufficient enough to verify it came from the correct voter
- Voter is given the opportunity to log into the states website and verify their vote was accepted - If it is rejected, voter can go to poll with proof.
This is how we do it in Florida and it has been working for many years. I posted here hoping people would ask how I am confident in my state's vote by mail so they can advocate these checks are in place in their state. I feel President Trump's messages about potential mail in fraud is a request for us to take an active role in ensuring that mail in voting is regulated and not fraudulent in our states. You can do this by calling your election office and government officials and demand a secure system. I believe mail in voting is coming to all states - you need to do your part to ensure it is secure. I have got a lot of messages about my comment but no one is offering a solution - most just keep saying it can't be accomplished without risk of fraud occurring. Please read how we've been doing it Florida, add other security checks and submit it to your state's officials as a plan. Get people on board to demand there are security checks like we have in Florida. Then when they institute vote by mail your can rest knowing you at least tried and hopefully succeeded in making your vote by mail more secure.
Glad to hear - get on board and help me spread the message to other states that are being forced to vote by mail. If Georgia goes blue this year due to fraudulent mail in ballots - cause they are going to allow mail in voting everywhere - guess who sat on their butt and instead argued with me instead of doing something? As I keep saying and you seem to just want to argue - Florida has a proven method of voting by mail - DOES GEORGIA? And thanks for being friendly then immediately calling me a cunt because I question your change is messaging from a debate to cheers - I asked about that because I thought you were actually reading and taking my message to heart. This is not a battle to see who wins, it is a battle for our voting process being secure. Lets work together and do something - I am finished "arguing" you because you are just dstracting me from informing others how to make their state vote by mail system as good as Florida's.
I never lost anything since I was just informing people how to be sure to secure their mail in ballots - and i never got my panties in a bunch - seems as if you did and then starting throwing names out. If you are certain - like me - that your state will turn red, then why are you even talking about fraud???? Lets help those who live in blue or swing states. I am in a swing state but i've shown you how I have no worries about mail in fraud and I'm positive my governor has it covered - heck, I am more afraid of illegals and in person voting fraud here in Florida and would rather they force every one to vote by mail here. I keep showing you the plan that you can help me spread to other states since you are certain Georgia is safe. President Trump is probably warning people so they have time to try to make changes by getting involved and voice their opinion to their officials ahead of the election.
nice - "i cannot call my government officials and attempt to be engaged - i can only bitch on a comment board and call people cunt" - i hope others are doing more than you
i think i am speaking to a bot
it seems to me that you are saying since President Trump tweeted mail in voting is a potential source for fraud, i should be against it - i am saying we don't have that problem here in Florida. If you fear there is potential for fraud in your state, go get involved and help determine the direction instead of wasting time debating me. What god is doing the larger cause. I have only seen perfect results from my mail in experience and will continue to use it - if you are going to be forced to use it in your state - Georgia? - and are afraid it will be full of fraud, then start working on that now. Instead of writing me, write your officials. Prepare a message that you can call and read your local and state government officials
that message is playing in FLORIDA - go fix your mail in voting system instead of complaining here. and why are you saying the guy i want to win - are you not voting for Trump? he should be the guy we want to win. I see what he is saying - my critical thinking says go fix the problem, don't just complain - you have the power to effect change in your state - go do it
weird - your tone changed very rapidly from being against every line of my comments to "Cheers!" ???? did i convenience you to go make some changes in GA or did you just give up because you don't want to listen to me tell you to work to make it better instead of complain?
if you just sit around and complain about potential fraud and don't get involved then maybe you deserve being disenfranchised. if your state is democratically led go get involved man. do something, i don't think President Trump is telling my Governor DeSantis (in ) to change our vote by mail system. We are not hearing anything about potential mail in fraud in our state. And yes that article was most likely by liberal media crying democrats in were disenfranchised - but you're doing the same. They probably didn't have proof of ballots being thrown out just like you have no proof that mail in voting with be fraudulent. you still have a few months before the election to go make a difference if your state is threatening mail in only.
Florida resident here who has voted by mail for president in the last 3 elections. Voting for Trump by mail in the upcoming election. President Trump is saying we do it right because we do it right. Heres how Florida works: You request mail in ballot, your address is verified by the address on your state ID, you sign your ballot when you mail it in and the signature is verified with the signature on your state ID. Ballots don't get mailed to illegals. After you cast your vote, you can log into a state run election site and verify it was received and counted - as secure as vote in person with as many checks along the way. We avoid long lines, standing in the heat and we can vote way in advance. I would suggest those of you in states where they are implementing to ask your state officials to require a similar process. So in summary, since President Trump cannot take away something we've had here in Florida for over a decade especially since he uses this method to vote here in Florida (his official residence is Mar a Lago) he supports it. I agree it is a little confusing because it seems like he is contradicting himself - I think he should be shaming the other states into implementing a method like we have here in Florida. Maybe he doesn't have time - his constituents should pick up the slack.
I also have another idea - if every registered Republican said we're all voting by mail and followed thru - you could easily detect any fraud. The state has a tally of registered Republicans - if they all vote Trump, then the numbers should at least match. Someone also mentioned older folks enjoying this mail in - I am getting older, but I've been doing this for 12 years - its convenient, you don't have to take time off work, you don't have to stand in lines and I actually think it lessens the chance an illegal is voting.