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handpeople 5 points ago +5 / -0

Although encouraging, something tells me this is how the DOJ ultimately controls the United States. In effect, Biden will be under the same threat of legal terrorism that Trump was, should he become President.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

First. Are there even cutters, and if so is it legal to either order observers out, or give them the impression they should leave while votes are actually counted. Thats a big claim.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

The fact they have to put all this pressure on just to get 60% of population vaccinated, is telling. There likely is not a 60% that will do it. Once we understand it, once we act like we know it, they will be powerless.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you look at history, tides change. Conservatives have not really fought for years. Either that changes, or we will be dominated (and I will live in Hungary). Even if we lose this, if we change in a big way as conservatives, we can fight back. First at local levels, then federally. Look at the left, they have no problem ignoring federal law and getting away with it, there is nothing to say conservatives could not do the same. The left pushes to defund ICE, and may be successful, we can push to defund the FBI, or at least not allow them to operate in our states. Federalism must come back. We have lost because we have had the wrong people, we allow the wrong people because we are afraid of wronger people.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

GA legislators as of today are not budging. They are resigned to the outcome.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

You may be right about the runoff, only because there is little time to change course. But I for one am no longer playing lesser of two evils just to get RINOS. I am perfectly ok losing in the short run to win in the long run. After the 2020 election, I think its imperative that we no longer hand our votes to do nothing GOP, even if it means losing. We have been losing for years with them.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

Its not a healthy predisposition in the long run. It leads to, too much disappointment when the happening never happens. There is plenty of fucked up shit with strong, correlated, documented evidence, that there is no need to speculate, or at least pay an exhortation amount of attention to the wild. To me, logically, they seem to spend a great majority of time generally ending up wrong 3 minutes early 98.999% of the time, instead of waiting to be right 3 minutes late 100% of the time.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

GA rally is timed well.

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handpeople 2 points ago +3 / -1

There is a contingent, a large contingent, who live in a fantasy world. Its like a hobby. Everything is coming, big, huge, involves the military, is a secret plan, etc. Even fools eventually become wise if they are persistent in their foolishness.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

GA legislators have signaled they are not going to do this. Something needs to happen to change their mind after yesterday.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

People will not be arrested because there is not time for that, and its unlikely the DOJ will come through.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think with a SCOTUS ruling, the legislators would feel empowered to override electors. So that is another path.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

He is right about public opinion, and that would need to shift in a big way in 10 days.

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handpeople 3 points ago +3 / -0

Rush is 100% right. Its very possible. From limited info that I am hearing, it appears GA legislature is not going to do anything after the meeting yesterday with regard to sending faithless electors. To change that, would take a massive shift in public opinion. He is right its about public opinion as well, there is certainly no time to get a real investigation going.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fine, let him know you are planning on voting for the independent that runs to the right of him next time. If he cant do anything, its not important that we hold a majority that cannot do anything. Might as well wing it on a chance we can get people to try.

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is actually expected.

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handpeople 4 points ago +4 / -0

What is he saying?

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handpeople 1 point ago +1 / -0

I dont know what is going on. I see no indication any state is prepared to send faithless electors to Washington. I dont see much movement at all on this. In 2000, both Dems and Republicans were prepared to do this in FL, but not now. Its inconceivable Trumps team does not know this. Perhaps its just a hail mary, perhaps its to de-legitimize a Biden presidency, perhaps its a strategy to buy time for more evidence (which we have seen from yesterday). Looks like GA legislators are going to really do nothing about it considering their statement of purpose of next Thurday's meeting. My best summation, is that nobody outside of maybe the Presidents team knows. Also almost 100% certain their will be no insurrection act thing, thats just not logical.

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handpeople 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hid did get a lawyer yesterday, so it seems likely.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am not seeing anything that would lead me to believe state houses are prepared to send faithless electors. Thats all I am saying, nothing more, nothing less. Not speculating about anything else. It happens on the 14th.

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handpeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think his argument hinges on whether there were "cutters" or not. If there were, its ridiculous, opens a gaping door for fraud. Once and if that argument is proven false, all plausible deniability this was normal processing goes out the window.

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handpeople 3 points ago +3 / -0

Been saying this for weeks. I am open to the fact Abrams may have been right.

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handpeople 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think they already know the results of the runoff. They dont want to look silly winning if a huge number of republicans do not show up. Then the democrats not in the know will become suspicious and they get attacked by both sides.

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