And that’s the way it should be. I’m not goddamn Republican. I’m a conservative who happens to be registered with the party which generally aligns most with my political philosophy, but if these RINOs are expecting Trump’s base to just vote R at the top and down ballot because they are Rs, they are mistaken.
Support the president or gtfo.
That’s funny because every time I try to be realistic on TD I get called a fucking doomer and it is childish as shit. I basically took a year off work to volunteer for the campaign’s efforts in my state (and we won in one of the most important battlegrounds).
I’m not a fucking doomer. I gave a huge portion of my time to help this year, and that is way more helpful to the campaign than posting memes on a website.
It is hilarious to be called a doomer by someone who has more likely than not done absolutely nothing to actually help the campaign get out the vote.
Amen bro. It’s important to remember the hivemind exists here on TD (unfortunately) just as it does with Reddit.
These fuck faces think they’re being cute and funny by repeating “doomer” like a Lefty NPC over and over again, when in reality they aren’t responding to serious concerns and they have no intentions of having an honest discourse. They are the sheep just like the left.
Boomers are a huge reason why we are where we are today.
Of course there are based boomers and I’m not going to judge the whole because of a few, but let’s not forget boomers were largely responsible for the takeover of our university systems with “free love” communist BS in the 60s.
That’s not really my point though: the evidence we present still needs to be convincing enough that the court will rule in our favor. The burden of proof in a civil case is on the plaintiff (vs. a criminal where it lies with the prosecution, beyond a reasonable doubt) and in layman’s terms the plaintiff must prove and meet the preponderance of evidence threshold, e.g., 51% of the evidence shows something occurred.
Here’s the thing I want to reiterate from my previous comments: no matter the evidentiary threshold difference between a civil vs. criminal case, it is up to the judge to make a favorable judgement for our side. In reality, this is still an astonishingly hard thing to do, and even more so in an election case where we are looking to throw out / disqualify voters. Judges, whether it’s right or not, are extremely careful in these cases because they don’t want to be seen as apolitical. I’m not saying I agree with that, but that’s what the situation is right now.
Again, I know when I discuss what I think went on regarding voter fraud here on TD, I am more likely than not preaching to the choir. We don’t need to convince each other what happened, you and I are already on the same side and agreeable. We have to convince judges who “grew up” in the system, and even though they want to seem apolitical, are actually political and still carry bias. It’s very unfortunate and I wish I had an easy solution we can argue about back and forth. Our Country is fucking corrupt and it’s a gigantic hill to climb. (Not saying it can’t happen, but look at what Steve Bannon has been saying; we are trying to throw a Hail Mary, and luckily for us we have Doug Flutie as QB1–but it’s still a Hail Mary)
It can be submitted. But I think I should have went a little deeper with my thought: We need to be able to submit evidence that is going to get a judge to rule in our favor. Unfortunately, that's a high bar. Most judges are normies or bought and paid off... all the more reason why the evidence needs to be clear, concise, and convincing enough to establish the fact that a crime and/or conspiracy has occurred, the likes of which our Country has never seen.
That's the thing a ton of people on TD aren't getting. We are not here to convince each other what happened. We all know what happened. Again, our evidence needs to be bullet proof enough to convince people who strictly think in evidentiary procedure to rule in our favor.
All in all, what I take issue with most is people on TD who go around, don't contribute, and fling insults to others in the community because they are trying to have an honest discourse. Sometimes there is info and situations in life we don't like; that's life. Hearing something you don't like doesn't mean you automatically divert to ad hominems... as far as I'm concerned, that's what the left does, and I won't participate in that no matter which side it comes from. If I won't tolerate it from one side, I'm not going to tolerate it on the other. I'm a strong Conservative first and foremost and this means I generally try to suppress my emotional response, and leave my thinking to fact and reason.
You're goddamn right it's up to us. Instead of wasting time calling people doomers (with absolutely no evidence), we should be preparing to hold the line. You are 100% correct about the institutional powers who are against conservatives.
People on this website forget, the media doesn't necessarily hate Trump, they hate you. And by you I mean you as a conservative. We've already had calls by mainstream journalists for conservatism to be treated like COVID and be eradicated from our culture. They want to treat you like a leper.
We need to fight the fuck back, not in-fight among ourselves. We are wasting resources by senselessly calling each other names.
Be careful Patriot, you will be downvoted here for telling people to use logical reasoning.
I keep telling people that we need to present evidence that is able to submitted in a court of law. Unfortunately, I keep getting called a fucking doomer. In reality I spent my whole fucking year volunteering with the campaign in my area, and guess what? We won one of the most important states for GEOTUS' reelection. Like a good Catholic, I gave my time, talent, and treasure to this Country by way of military service and thereafter service to the campaign. I'm not a fucking doomer. I've done more to help the Trump campaign than post memes on a website.
Again, it's unfortunate, but I've come to the conclusion that a large portion of the population runs on pure emotion without giving way to logic and reason. Even here on TD (which I still fucking love btw), I see a whole lot of people acting like the commo-fascist fucks on r/politics.
I literally got downvoted like crazy for telling TD to not act like the left.
Lots of people here act like the left. They are emotional. We must remain true to our logical reasoning. That's the reason why we are conservatives.
Literally not what I said at all, again you’re putting words into my mouth.
The election is not going to be won without going through the courts.
If you want to throw ad hominems, it’s just as easy for me to call you a “coper.” However, If we are about free speech and the continued discourse of dialogue we cannot hurl insults at each other. How about you leave that to Reddit and r/politics. If you want to suggest I should abate my free speech because it’s something you don’t want to hear, and you want to hurl insults, how about you go enjoy yourself with your friends on the left.
Putting words in my mouth isn’t going to work. I’m suggesting to provide some evidence because the clock is ticking. In fact, that’s the subject of this whole thread.
I’ll save this comment and come back to it when Trump runs in 2024 if it doesn’t work out for him this cycle. Lulz for days.
Suggesting to be logical about this isn’t “implicitly” saying we need to concede. I don’t think Trump should concede, but I do think we need to provide some evidence, of which is able to be submitted to the court. This evidence also must convince the normies in the courts to make favorable judgements.
That is what my whole comment was about. I fucking volunteered like crazy, directly for the campaign. Don’t come to me and try to directly imply “doomer!!!!1!!1!” Trump won the state I’m in even when he was projected to lose.
Point proven. We need to uphold our logic. Not devolve into the thing we hate. Don’t know why this is a controversial take, but it shouldn’t be.
I served this country proud and I am loyal to my country first and foremost. I love Donald Trump more than anything and I know for a fact I did more than 99% of .win to actually get him to carry my state, which is one of the most important in the election.
We shouldn’t questions someone’s loyalty or call them “doomers” for trying to look at the situation with logic and reason.
Listen. I love Trump. I’ve been to many rallies and even spoke to a TD.win guy at one of them, who claimed he was high up at this sight.
My problem is I won’t go into full lefty, completely illogical mode here. I will probably get downvoted to hell for saying this too. I am as pro-Trump and as conservative as they come. I served this Country in the military and did it out of a calling to serve, not for the benefits.
The election WAS rigged. It was rigged by the fucking media. As you say, the good people of the USA were BLASTED by the MSM for four years straight of nothing but TDS. And since COVID and the start of the election year, TDS has gone into hyperdrive. I love TD.win but I see it turning more and more into an r/politics type echo chamber every day. Part of being a Patriot is being able to handle things you don’t like. The media rigged the election and it caused normies to vote for Biden in unprecedented numbers. Of course there was some level of voter fraud, which is always a given. In fact, I argue that voter fraud is likely at unprecedented numbers due to masses of mail in ballots this year.
As a lifelong conservative, I have always realized we have to fight the “margin of fraud” in every election. This includes the fraud perpetuated by the media which causes the aforementioned normies to cast misguided ballots.
I will listen with open ears about any fraud claimed by the Trump campaign and I believe all should be investigated. The problem is people on .win are being blueballed over and over again and are in major cope mode. I know I’m going to be called a doomer and this saddens me because I know I’m my heart I am as strong as a conservative as they come and I truly love this community. I know I’m about to get snake bitten here too.
To boil this down, we need to come together and get ready for GEOTUS to run in 2024. As I said I will gladly and happily listen to any claims of fraud for this cycle, but our claims need to stand in court enough so actual decisions can be rendered and we are running out of time. Ben Shapiro is lauded (in a negative way) on this sight, and of course he is a NEOCON but his current takes are pretty spot on. We have to be able to convince the normies this election was stolen and that is going to require clear and incontrovertible evidence. As a community and as conservatives we can’t let ourselves delve deep into the thick of conspiracy because it will split us as a community. We can’t have this because the Demonrats are fantastic at banding together to defeat conservatism and we need all the Patriots we can get to stand up to this bullshit. This includes the big R republicans (unfortunately). Do I prefer it this way? No. But is it what is going to have to happen? Yes.
Fuck Mittens Romcom though. He can go straight to hell.
I came across a similar situation yesterday in the Publix post. Some concern troll was going around trying to get people to boycott Publix. I explained to him that it is likely the Publix situation had another reason behind it, and he called me a Publix shill when I asked for evidence of political motivation. Publix has always donated to right political candidates in Florida! We need them to keep doing that!
PEOPLE NEED TO LISTEN! There are clever shills here trying to blue-pull people, or at least try and subvert you into boycotting the companies that agree with conservative principles. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOTHING MORE THAN ShariaBlue SHILLS OR CONCERN TROLLS! REPORT THEN AND MOVE ALONG!
That is fantastic news, fellow pede. I only took issue with the assertion that Publix was politically motivated to put a limit on purchases. Publix is crazy conservative and always donating to the GOP in Florida. Fuck these people that want to boycott them because of this single picture that doesn't have any context. Concern trolls trying to use the left's tactics on a company who is on their side (albeit quietly).
Yeah, Publix shill. You’re dumber than my dumb friend who is dumber than a box of rocks.
Learn to formulate your fucking arguments and not concern troll a conservative company who we want to do well so they can further our movement.
Ya dingus, you don’t even know what you’re doing and that is hilarious. Congratulations, you have become what you hate, yikes factor x10000.
And I’ll shill for a conservative company any day. I want them to make donations to the right candidates in my state, especially when we are being over run by libtards like you
You didn’t outright call for a boycott and that much is true. See what I did there?
However, the rest of my comment stands and you still have to back your accusations up with a factual basis. Otherwise, you’re just doing what the left does. And the Chick-Fil-A situation includes bona-fide evidence that their CEO is a fucking idiot, where as your assertstion includes no factual basis (I.e., a video of the CEO) at all.
You’re doing the same thing as the left and your head is so far up your ass you don’t even realize it. Go ahead and go look for some actual (not a single photo that has no context whatsoever) evidence that this is politically motivated and I’ll be more than happy eat crow, because that’s what a logical thinker does.
I’m not upset about fucking Publix. I know what kind of company they are and obviously you don’t.
I’m calling you out for spewing concern troll BS, doing exactly what the left does, and all around dumbfuckery while thinking you have a logical argument.
First of all, show me in my comment where I give a concrete answer one way or the other. What I did was suggest that there is a simple explanation for why they are limiting the sale of this brand, i.e., there could be various explanations and you are jumping to a conclusion that may not necessarily be true, and you need to back your shit up with facts. No, it ISN’T obvious that this is a political statement. You took one picture post on Win and made a huge accusation, and you know what? Yeah, I take people who are calling for boycotts of a traditionally conservative company seriously. Publix has continuously stood up to the left and I want them to be around to continue to do so.
So yeah, you’re a concern troll and have been reported as such. How do I know you’re not a lefty coming into our domain and trying to gin up a boycott?
Try again faggot.
Damn, you’re a fucking illogical idiot. Let me school you on something:
Causation doesn’t imply correlation. Just because they put a sign on GOYA foods, and not the other brands, DOES NOT mean it was politically motivated. Show me the proof that it was politically motivated because maybe they have a large Hispanic population in that area, and want to keep people from hoarding the GOYA so customers who actually use the food can have it, instead of buying it to make what amounts to a political statement? Show me where this is a strictly political statement. You know, proof. The burden is on you because you’re make bold claims without showing any proof.
And of course, if you don’t have a Publix near you, you probably don’t know what the company is about. Oh and yes, of course I have the same info as you, which is why you’re an idiot for jumping to conclusions before having more evidence to back your dumb claims up.
Please get the fuck out of here and go back to sticking your head up your ass. You’re doing the exact same thing the left does... making claims with no factual basis.
Do you have any facts to back up your political assertation? Because Publix has always been based as fuck. They don’t let their associates do anything political, which includes wearing Marxist BLM hats and pins. And they hold the line, unlike that faggot from Chick Fil A.
And you know what? Not allowing anything political is a great thing because I don’t go there to see politics, I go there to get groceries and a fucking chicken tender sub.
The left is always trying to cancel Publix here in Florida, so before you do the same thing, provide some evidence faggot.
Publix is an extremely conservative company. Trust me, this has no political motivation behind it.
For fucks sake they just started to let associates wear beards a couple years ago. Publix is based as fuck (even though I’m a neck beard). The left in Florida is constantly trying to cancel them but they usually don’t budge. Unlike that faggot Cathy at Chick-Fil-A.
The GOP should be destroyed. Fuck the GOP, and fuck them before and after President Trump.
The GOP has been playing fuck fuck games for a long, long time. Like, since RR, and in some cases before. We need an America First Party, and if it takes the downfall of the GOP to make that party a reality, so be it.
I am not Republican, Democrat, Conservative, or Liberal. I’m a Constitutionalist and my first love is to that very special document which I gave an oath and promise to uphold—with my life. My second love is to the American people; thirdly, the United States (as in the geopolitical entity).
Fuck the two-party system which forces us to choose between shit and shittier. GEOTUS is the first vote I’ve made where I actually felt like I was picking a candidate who aligned (almost, looking at you 2A) with my beliefs. He has fumbled on 2A issues, but I tend to believe this is out of ignorance rather than malice. The President is fantastic at making decisions when he doesn’t have assholes with an agenda lying to him about what the American people want, when in reality they are deceiving him out of interest for whatever company they’re secretly lobbying for.