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novanleon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pray, and if you feel led to protest or fight back in some other way, then by all means do as you feel led, but nobody should be saying “you need to do X” or “you need to do Y”. That’s not how walking as a Christian works, and even if you’re not a Christian, it’s abundantly clear nobody here, or anywhere else, knows for certain what must be done to win this fight.

Does nobody understand that this is all by the hand of God? That everything happening according to His purpose? To what end, I do not know, but I do know this: that America has been consumed by immorality and evil, and judgement is coming in some form. I earnestly believe America is living out Jeremiah 51:57, and it’s clear that judgement is on it’s way.

Again, if you feel led to fight, do as you feel led, but understand that God often has people playing different roles and what is intended for one is not always intended for another.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

Waiting on God is a fundamental part of being a follower of Christ. The scriptures are clear on this topic. There is nothing in the Bible about doing things of our own power because “praying is too easy” or because “God helps those who help themselves”. If you feel compelled to repeat such falsehoods then perhaps you need to take another look at your beliefs and test them to make sure they’re from God and not man’s teaching.

Also it's not your judgment that deems whether I'm Christian or not.

I don’t know... do you believe that quote needs to be brought up every time someone brings up the topic of prayer? Because if you do, then I seriously question your faith, or at very least your maturity as a Christian.

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novanleon 2 points ago +10 / -8

This quote isn’t anywhere in the Bible and is only meaningful to the most inexperience or immature of Christians. Walking with Christ means not doing anything by your own power. If you do not understand this then you have much to learn.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

God helps those who help themselves.

Anytime the topic of prayer is brought up, there’s always at least one idiot that comes along and uses this quote. Just stop it, please. This quote isn’t anywhere in the Bible and if you really believe it needs to be pushed in the face of anyone who talks about prayer then you probably aren’t a Christian in the first place.

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novanleon 6 points ago +6 / -0

And to my knowledge it’s not terribly uncommon for European parties to pop up and go away anyways.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you kidding me? After the storming of the capitol everyone where was praising the rioters and saying they should have done even more. Many (most?) people here were primed and ready for such a thing to happen that it was almost inevitable. Why the heck would there need to be a false flag?

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

It won't happen, and it shouldn't. It would be a strategic disaster and is a terrible idea that would set a terrible precedent. This place is a hotbed for terrible ideas, and the more desperate people get, the worse the ideas get. It's sad, but true.

If you're tired, just disconnect from politics for a while. Stay off of social media and stop visiting The_Donald for a few weeks. If this kind of stuff makes you tired or anxious, don't engage in it. You're seriously not going to miss anything important.

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novanleon 5 points ago +5 / -0

Been listening to him since the mid-90's. He will be missed.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0

The right has been divided between people who understand just how deep the evil on the Left runs, and those who think the Left are still semi-decent albeit mislead people who can be negotiated with.

People like Rush Limbaugh, Candace Owens and Brandon Struck are on the side who understands the true identity of the Left and what we're really fighting against. They understand it's a war for our culture and our nation.

People on the Right who are condemning and disavowing everything that happened in the capitol in the strongest terms and trying to take the moral high ground may have good intentions (possibly, they could also be cowards) but they're completely oblivious to the direness of the situation. They still think they can win hearts and minds on the Left and center, completely missing the fact that the time for winning hearts and minds is over.

I've been saying it from the beginning and I'll say it again, the capitol "attack" was stupid and damaging to our own cause, but it was for the most part morally justifiable outside some minor property damage and tag-along shenanigans. Nobody was physically assaulted, there was barely any looting, everyone's behavior was extremely mild compared to the the riots of the past year, or even the Kavanaugh hearing riots. As far as I can tell, the only morally condemnable acts were those of capitol police who shot and killed an unnarmed woman.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dressing up as Indians and dumping tea into the harbor was a purposeful, meaningful and effective act of defiance. A handful of Trump supporters breaching the capitol building and wandering about taking selfies and filming one another was pointless and stupid.

The modern day analog to the Tea Party would have been Trump supporters dressed as Antifa or BLM infiltrating the voting precincts where fraud occurred and burning all the votes so that certification would have been called into question. But no, nobody on our side is smart enough to take action like that... too bold, too risky; would actually require a plan and some forethought. People here, like you, just want senseless violence because you want to express your frustration and don't know what else to do. You have no plan. You have no clear objectives.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you think a bunch of idiots running around the capitol building taking selfies is comparable to 1776, then you’re proving my point.

You have no idea what you’re doing, unlike the original Tea Party perpetrators. You’re just LARPing as a revolutionary, thinking you can get your way by causing social unrest. That’s not how any of this works.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0

The difference is that the original Tea Party was rational, purposeful, and morally justified. The events in the capitol yesterday were neither rational nor purposeful, however justified they may have been.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

This is the mentality of a child. The Left is winning NOT because of their rioting and looting, but because over the last fifty-odd years they’ve created a culture of tyranny and persecution towards anyone who opposes them. If you think you’re going to beat them by trying to do the same thing, then you’re just part of the problem.

You and most of the people here have no idea what you’re doing, and if you jump head first into violence and rioting as you mimic the other side, you’ll do nothing but make things worse.

You’ve already managed to throw Trump under the bus, make him an easy target for impeachment or worse, and basically ruined his chances for a 2024 run... and you’re already talking about doing this again.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Occupy what? Resist how? To what end? Causing social unrest is not a strategy. All of the rioting and looting and violence by the Left over the course of this year were counter-productive to their own cause, and that was with the media and Democrats running interference for them by painting them in the best possible light, or simply not reporting on it at all.

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid.

If you want to be effective, you need to have a plan. You need to clearly define what you want, what your objectives will be and then identify the most effective way to get it. All I'm hearing from people like you are "we don't know what else to do, so we're just going to cause social unrest", as if this would give the establishment a reason to throw you in prison.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

War requires a plan of action, a set of objectives, and a strategy to achieve those objectives... all I see here is people who are desperate and angry and want to lash out in violence; LARPers, children, who think a revolution and violence are some kind of solution when all it will do is make things worse, just like the capitol event yesterday did.

Revolutions are a dime a dozen and rarely turn out well. The American Revolution was different because it was based on a solid foundation of principles and had a clear cause and objectives. What we have right now is NOT this.

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novanleon 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've been following the rise and evolution of this movement since before Trump even became a candidate and I can assure you, the "true patriots" are NOT more or less on the same page. There are all sorts of factions playing a role here, in no particular order: (1) traditional Republicans, (2) the Tea Party swamp drainers, (3) the racial identitarians, (4) the Q-anon followers, (5) the accelerationists, (6) the faith-first religious conservatives, (7) the 1776 revolutionaries, (8) the Trump "God Emperor" worshipers, (9) and of course the ShareBlue infiltrators and rabble-rousers.

There is certainly some crossover between these groups but people tend to sit primarily in a single group and there is often a lot of cross-talk between them. They certainly aren't a unified single voice except in a few areas such as the tearing down of the establishment and (prior to yesterday) agreeing that Trump was the primary vehicle for accomplishing this.

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novanleon 2 points ago +2 / -0

That depends on who you thought he was. For those here who worshiped him as the "GEOTUS", yes, you were wrong.

However, many of us know who Trump is and still see him as one of the best Presidents the United States has every had. He did a great job -- albeit not perfect and he definitely made some big mistakes -- but that doesn't take away from his accomplishments.

People who are having their hopes dashed because they thought he was the "God Emperor" and sole savior of the United States need to rethink their priorities and hopefully learn a lesson from this.

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novanleon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Q was always a conspiracy theory fueled by desperation. Spending some time on this forum, it's clear that a significant portion of the population here is susceptible to this type of stuff. Very few people here actually have the wisdom and critical thinking to recognize a bill of goods when they see it.

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novanleon 1 point ago +2 / -1

He wasn't right about Pence. Pence didn't get arrested and isn't going to be shot by a firing squad. Lin Wood is a nutcase.

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