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nowrongwrong 23 points ago +23 / -0

I think it is absolutely beautiful the only possible suggestions I have to the editor:

  1. When it talks about "Regrets...I've had a few" you should splice in a clip of Jeff Sessions because he was really the first and biggest disappointment because he started the Mueller investigation

  2. At the very end you should use footage from the May SpaceX Dragon launch that highlights the Trump-driven private industry solution instead of the old shuttle design

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nowrongwrong 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's a little preachy but at least it TRIES to do the right (and decent and human) thing.

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nowrongwrong 4 points ago +4 / -0

Will Obama and Clinton disavow?

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nowrongwrong 6 points ago +7 / -1

The mods have discussed the problem many, many times:

There is no way to collect money without doxxing yourself (no, Bitcoin is not anonymous)

This works against us two ways:

  1. Are you going to be the one who pays for the servers and has your life torn upside-down as the public "face" of The_Donald?

  2. Would the site operators trust a webhost provided by an anonymous source?

Thus we have an unfortunate stalemate.

I have no doubt that there might be some Pede here brave enough to be the public face of The_Donald, but then if your reputation wasn't ABSOLUTELY beyond reproach then you will be crucified and your shame can reflect poorly on this community or even Trump. Remember all the drama that went on with some of the original moderators of The_Donald on Reddit.

But even if you had an impeccable reputation and were richer than God... if you aren't already a moderator, how would the current mods know they could trust you?

So this is where we are stuck.

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nowrongwrong 1 point ago +1 / -0

Some people do not have the luxury of taking a sick day. You book a flight weeks in advance and it might cost you a few hundred dollars to change it because you got sick at the last minute (assuming whatever it was you were flying to could even be rescheduled which it probably can't).

The world was a very different place, pre-COVID, and there were plenty of times I was on a plane or at a conference next to someone sick as a dog doing everything they could to "socially distance" and have known many (admittedly Asian) people who wore masks whenever they had a cold.

The perversion of mask mandates was flipping it from being a way for infectious to be polite to the foolish idea of controlling and subjugating healthy people.

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nowrongwrong 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was absolutely recommended.

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/commercial-aircraft/infection-control-cabin-crew.html

This is from 2016 when MERS was the big issue. The article hasn't been touched in over a year (last update Aug 2019) so you know it's not politicized mask-always bullshit. Quote:

Facemasks should be considered:
* for crew when you are helping sick travelers with respiratory symptoms such as coughing or sneezing
* for sick travelers to help reduce the spread of respiratory germs
* for people sitting near sick travelers (with respiratory symptoms) when the sick traveler cannot tolerate wearing a mask
Facemasks are NOT needed:
* for a sick traveler complaining of nausea or vomiting. This could result in choking or a blocked airway.
* for sick travelers who can’t tolerate a facemask or refuse one. In this case, ask sick travelers to cover their coughs or sneezes.

Every time you yawn, sigh, clear your throat... do anything at all with your lungs you are absolutely pushing moisture into the air. Wearing a mask ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE SICK is absolutely going to cut down on the amount of larger >10μm droplets. I'm not saying it should be mandatory, but if you wanted to be extra cautious when sick then people shouldn't be attacking you for it.

I've never been so sick that I was bedridden. I've had plenty of times I had a fever or cough and didn't have the luxury to just sleep in. But if I did go to work when I had a cold, I made damn sure to keep my distance and refuse to shake hands so I didn't get my coworkers sick. Taking precautions shouldn't be politicized, it should be common sense.

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nowrongwrong -6 points ago +5 / -11

Before masks became politicized, for decades wearing a mask has been something recommended to anyone who is sick but planning to go out in public.

I'm against masks for healthy people but if you are sick, then it's still a good idea.

EDIT:

Be better than this, Pedes. Stop downvoting the truth because you don't think there's multiple sides to an issue. There's a reason that masks exist. It's been perverted into an authoritarian mandate but that doesn't eliminate their original function.

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nowrongwrong 3 points ago +3 / -0

I couldn't find the actual study, but I did find this quote about it:

In May, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo shared that in a survey of 100 New York hospitals and 1,000 hospitalized C19 patients, 66% of new admissions had been sheltering at home. “This is shocking to us,” Cuomo said, “this is a surprise. Overwhelmingly the people were at home. We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but no, because these people were literally at home.”

It might have just been a more informal survey like interviewing people during admission. In any event, the point is they assumed that people would be protected in their homes and didn't consider that one infected person forced to shelter in place quickly turns into multiple infected persons if they live with others.

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nowrongwrong 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly right. I mean if this was an airborne version of Ebola then I would fucking be in a hazmat suit before I left my bedroom.

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nowrongwrong 7 points ago +7 / -0

It's just cause it was a doctor who wrote the note and they often speak with precision even if it's not necessary.

Nine times out of ten most things that get distributed to the media are written layman's terms. Having said that, this whole disease has been a different experience because we had to actually fight with the media over what to call it because naming it after its source (like we did for every other disease) somehow turned into a war crime.

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nowrongwrong 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm picturing black lipstick with a smattering of upper lip hair on the women, wearing a crystal on a cord around their neck and calling their cat a familiar.

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nowrongwrong 15 points ago +15 / -0

Disease name versus virus name

The disease AIDS is caused by the virus HIV

The disease COVID-19 (aka China Virus aka Wuhan Flu) is caused by the virus SARS-CoV-2

Remember, the only reason it's even called COVID-19 is because China told the WHO they weren't allowed to call it SARS2 because it would make people think of SARS which came from China.

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nowrongwrong 21 points ago +21 / -0

If Trump takes HCQ et al and spends 14 days shitposting on Twitter about how unfair it is that they won't let him out when he feels perfectly fine then it will be the biggest redpill to millions of people trapped by the media fearmongering that equates getting COVID with a death sentence.

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nowrongwrong 6 points ago +6 / -0

Their theory was that we could lockdown long enough to develop and distribute a vaccine which would then artificially provide herd immunity.

But that is a completely unproven and untested approach, one that has never been tried (let alone accomplished) in the history of the planet.

It is just an insane type of gamble when we already have a well-known, well-documented and well-understood solution via natural herd immunity.

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nowrongwrong 31 points ago +33 / -2

America is about to learn about viral load, which is something scientists and epidemiologists have been shouting about but nobody is really listening.

There's a reason why people get sick more often and to a stronger degree during the winter than during the summer. There's a reason why getting the number of influenza deaths peaks during the winter before disappearing by summer.

It's because of viral load. During the winter, people are more often indoors, more often in areas with limited airflow and more often in close company with others. If one person in a household is infected, they will be exposing the other members to concentrated quantities of airborne viruses for hours upon hours.

This is why New York was shocked to discover back in April--after they ordered everyone to stay in their homes and not go out--that 60% of the new severe cases were coming from people who had sheltered in place. It didn't make sense to Cuomo and other politicians who were only considering public spread and not the influence of being locked in a home with someone who had a very mild infection (one that the body could fight off) then infecting others much more severely.

You actually want to catch a disease outside, in public, when there is sufficient airflow and distance to ensure that the viral load that drifts into your lungs on an aerosolized droplet will be as small as possible. Your body can then attack it, defeat the infection, and develop antibodies to defend against it in the future.

Right now the people who get COVID are getting such low viral loads initially that they are either completely asymptomatic or the body recovers so quickly it doesn't require hospitalization or ICU treatment (i.e. why deaths and hospitalizations are dropping despite an ever increasing number of positive cases).

This is most assuredly what happened to Hope Hicks and consequently President Trump. She was exposed somewhere in public via aerosolized droplets (anything smaller than 5 micrometers is considered aerosolized, they can stay in the air up to 3 hours and travel up to 27ft) and thus got the virus into her system. At some point she should have felt initial symptoms but it's possible she initially dismissed them as fatigue or overworking, until they got to the point where she felt sick enough to get tested.

And thus she spread it to others, again via low viral load aerosolized transmission. Catching it early before it has a chance to multiply and overwhelm a person's immune system (which is when you know you are sick, because your body is trying to fight the disease) gives you the best chance to survive the disease.

TL:DR - You can't stop a disease from spreading no matter how much you try. It's why herd immunity has been the method of choice for overcoming pandemics for all of human history.

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nowrongwrong 2 points ago +2 / -0

Never mind, I thought it was a pool feed that everyone was using, I didn't realize every network had their own cameras.

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nowrongwrong 2 points ago +2 / -0

Honestly I think how ever much we think we know, I think the truth is far worse than we could even imagine.

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nowrongwrong 1 point ago +1 / -0

Remember that investigation time is also correlated to the size of the team.

Mueller had all of Congress behind him giving him everything he wanted, millions upon millions of dollars in resources, personnel and funding. And the Deep State was behind him as well, giving him access to anything and everything he wanted to see.

Durham by contrast has been essentially laboring alone in a closet with a couple Deep State lackeys that may or may not have been actually providing any help. If the Durham investigation was the priority of the US government, the answers would be known tomorrow. But it's not so it ends up being like that old retired cop reading cold case files in his study at night hoping he sees something that finally solves it.

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nowrongwrong 2 points ago +2 / -0

A better analogy I think would be you kill someone, the police suspect you and search your home for evidence but instead find a scrapbook of mementos from twenty other victims.

At that point they might have to decide if they should see if they have better evidence and cases for those victims so they can seek the death penalty trying you as a serial killer rather than trying you on the one murder that maybe you get away with or worst case are out after five years.

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nowrongwrong 1 point ago +1 / -0

Weird, I was hitting refresh on the page multiple times but not seeing anything new until I clicked the Refresh Thread link at the bottom.

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nowrongwrong 9 points ago +9 / -0

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1310958648676540417?refresh=1601409513

From the Twitter thread being posted, this is basically a updated compilation of all the individual tweets commenting on each part of the hearing

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nowrongwrong 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well it sure won over the Libertarians, that's for sure.

Here's a LibRight meme about it from Political Compass Memes

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nowrongwrong 7 points ago +7 / -0

What stops a commander-in-chief from basically firing everyone at the top?

Given that war is no longer about military experience leading troops on the actual battlefield but more about excellent logistics and planning, what do these existing generals bring to the table that actually makes them valuable, since apparently it isn't loyalty and obedience?

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nowrongwrong 1 point ago +1 / -0

This whole saga unfolded over the course of an entire year so basically it's hard to forget the details since it had the quality of a TV miniseries in that each week there was a new twist or turn with a cliffhanger that left you waiting for the next "episode".

Also she looked like an uglier version of Maggie Gyllenhall.

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