You are absolutely correct. He will release reports on anyone. Before 2016 Assange was the darling of the left because he was releasing stuff on people they did not like. I know, I was on the left at that time. Then Trump ran and he was releasing things that made the left look terrible so they now hate him.

Of course Assange doesn't have American interests at heart, and that is probably for the best. True objectivity doesn't exist but as long as Assange only cares about releasing important materials no matter what side it is benefits, I am for it.

I do not support Manning because he is mentally ill. I have to review again what he released, I cannot remember if he released anything that shone a spotlight on true evil or made things worse for America.

Huh. That actually happened: https://time.com/4636953/wikileaks-chelsea-manning-julian-assange/

Alright, learned something new. Thank you.

I am curious about the argument from the other perspective here. I have watched a bunch of Robert Barnes and other lawyer videos disecting various cases and I have learned that while each case often has a core objective truth, there are pespectives and possible interpretations not visible to those that do not do law or dissect issues and language on a regular basis.

What would be the strongest case against Assange?

Just for your reference, I am using the fictional references to left and right as they are understood in pop culture in the west, particularly Western Europe, US and Canada.

It gets too complicated to argue out who belongs to what group and how the various groups belief systems overal.

Yeah, you and Fordheartskav kind of got the gist of it.

Assange and probably a whole list of others need to have posts made about them on a regular basis. It is so easy to forget that this guy has been under lockdown FOR 10 YEARS. How long has Assange been rotting in Belmarsh and not a single person has written jack shit about him?

What you smell is the discontinuity between the origin of the thread being, "hey remember Assange" and then realzing that "oh shit, this is going to turn into just a slacktivist post". Because, you are right. Not a single one of us will do jack shit to help Assange. My self included (probably).

The bullet points are my relatively minor guilt trip trying to flesh out a bit of content for anyone passing by on the one hand and on the other realizing, this guy is fucked. There is literally no one doing anything for him beyond whatever incidental

Which is kind of where this thread either ends or begins.

What the fuck do we do about Assange?

I think you are referencing Democrats of 10 or 20 years ago which were (more or less) tangentially classical liberals. Basicaly republicans light which is why everyone always made the jokes about both being basically one party with minor differences on economics, military and social issues.

The democrats of today are being parasitized by Postmodernists / Marxists. 100% of our institutions have fallen and are fully controlled by these people (except maybe the military and the current presidency ... for now).

Within the next 4 to 8 years, the Postmodernists / Marxists will be wearing the Democratic party skin like a costume. They are NOT pro America. They hate you. They hate America. They want you dead and replaced.

Is it possible for Democrats to be on the side of America? Not any longer, in my opinion.

It's the Moloch part. I have read all the emails with the vague pedo references, but never seen a reference to the Caananite god associated with child sacrifice.

People write all kinds of things in corporate email. When has ANYONE EVER referenced the god of child sacrifice in corporate speak?

I can see your point. Fair enough.

Oh really? Critics like Ann Coulter have made some good points about why Sessions should not have been terminated. However, I can see in your point (and the self recusal, no action, etc) that it totally made sense.

Wow, interesting.

So, after review, the long and short of it is:

1. It is unclear to what degree Wikileaks is able to assist Assange. Obviously they still exist but have been dormant since Julians arrest.

This does not bode well.

2. Various groups and individuals pop in and out of existence on his behalf but they have limited reach and capacity.

3. Assange is up against the deepest of the deep state. The consipiracy nut in me would say the fact he has not been suicided is a positive and probably the only thing keeping him alive. After listening to Robert Barnes over the last little while, Occams Razor suggests the machinations of law are too opaque for us to tell what is really happening.

Assanges behaviour indicates he is truly in fear for his life, so the extradition is unlike to be a ruse of some sort. This is a direct attack.

4. There are no substantial resources of any sort collecting news about assange or providing co-ordination in any substantial way. Everyone is either looking for donations for some bullshit or the new stories are just clickbait for tabloids to sell eyeballs.

I need some sleep. Thanks for the feedback.

What do you guys think should be done to help Asssange? Are the only strategic options to gather large amounts of supporters (10s of millions large) at the doors of the right agencies and people in power?

Allright, more research. Latest and news that pop up on search engines + a few relavent reference articles:

1. WRITE TO JULIAN ASSANGE https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-to-help-julian-assange-by-writing-to-him-in-prison/5694221

MAILING ADDRESS:

Mr. Julian Assange Prisoner # A9379AY HMP Belmarsh Western Way London SE28 0EB UK

2. JUNE 24, 2020 - CHARGED WTIH CONSPIRING WITH ANONYMOUS

https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/julian-assange-charged-with-conspiring-with-anonymous/

3. CHANGE.ORG PETITION

https://www.change.org/p/free-julian-assange-before-it-s-too-late-stop-usa-extradition?cf_chl_jschl_tk=3313189b61a83801b8b76194168b59f2c068e415-1594649671-0-AZB5LhR4I2G1O8cXssNJkbsUv33ejAc2JIPs64cN8hyANj6V1nqMNeqDzXb39-Rtz492979IYERRWoIni3bViAFlWWykFzz2uxTBnuE6dkHSHC8ZpD2ZsQHzZ1bmPRXr19pLQNT-I3XmetODLDJnA_OceLtEJfkJHzDqG6fgbwK1kcVf-7W8DE8JzrScivYY3WfCR0bgICz2bx4-QvxP65vbYBj5yS8zaPsKiPNpBQ4PAmkQ5x1VblyzRdJ7EK1i1jB9-q7rjeGwa9ne95O_6lBdgwiNHwJgRAZIKvWIp9-7v8Wy-AtWYlhXjnYD5xEWBxKu4ucUbLJFwphbLbPbFoKXjSIyYEzXB9XNXFQ_Gf6I

NOTE: No one has signed this! I need to check if I have the correct site, url looks fine.

4. ARTICLE ON HIS ARREST FROM APRIL

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47891737

5. ASSANGES FIANCE BBC INTERVIEW

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2020/06/21/julian-assange-fiancee-plea/

6. ASSANGE IN LIMBO

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n12/patrick-cockburn/julian-assange-in-limbo

7. TYPICAL BBC BULLSHIT

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11047811

8. WIKILEAKS ABOUT JULIAN

https://defend.wikileaks.org/about-julian/

9. JUNE ARTICLE ABOUT ADDITIONAL INDICTMENTS

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/24/julian-assange-wikileaks-founder-faces-new-indictment-us/3254831001/

Oh, on the point of handing over our institutions to Post Modernists and Marxists ... did you know the military has a diversity office?

https://www.armydiversity.army.mil/

Do you have any idea how dangerous it is to allow diversity and inclusivity into the military?

Seriously poeple, we are in real danger. The attacks on Trump are just the beginning. If they manage take over the military, holy hell.

Anyway, for now, lets see if anything can be done to shine a light into Julians corner.

Thank you kindly. Ditto. This feels like the next logical step after Stone (hopefully Flynn can kill the political machinations still under play in his case).

I thought I could google up actual groups dedicated to helping Assange but all I can find is a bunch of scammers trying to make money off of his name (as another poster mentioned below)?

How bloody weird.

Ohhh!

Okay, I would rather not say but let me answer this way. Freedom of speech websites break down this way:

EXTREME LEFT (no freedom, totally racist)

MIDDLE (nearly absolute freedom of speech, non racist, approximately THEDONALD.WIN)

EXTREME RIGHT (absolute freedom of speech, totally racist)

I was referring to one site in the extreme right spectrum, but I would rather not say which one.

I used to be an extreme left sympathizer. When George Bush Jr. was in office, I was perfectly happy to agree with (and absolutely believe) that George Bush Jr. was Hitler. Do you remember the George Bush Hitler posters? I do. I did not paste any but I sympathized with that extreme and the whole post modernist bullshit. I hated him with the same depth of passion the left hates Trump now. I absolutely could not imagine the other side as human. Honestly, it was that bad.

Then Trump got elected and I saw those people just go off the wall crazy.

Then I floated over to the extreme right for a while and just did the fly on the wall thing just to see.

I am now at a place where I see all three groups as part of an ecosystem of beliefs and no matter which direction you skew the system you loose. If it is left you get killed by Stalin. If it is right you get killed by Hitler. If you skew to the middle, everything atrophies through the death of a thousand cuts.

I am actually starting to think that the ONLY system that works / makes sense is patriarchy. Every other categorization is starting to seem ludicrous. But I am at the starting point of this line of thinking.

All of these years I have had a policy to not post anything, and I haven't for over a decade. Today I broke that rule to post here because this site has become something special because of the people on this site + Trump admin movement.

You guys want strong borders, no immigration, return of all illegal immigrants to their source nations as well as no wars, fiscal responsibility (reduced spending) and HIGH MORAL STANDARDS. You all are very inspiring. Trump has been making some progress. His strongest critics are right though, he could be making better plays (immediate deportation of all DACA people, immediate forced deportation of all illegals, speeding up the wall, etc). But, he is surrounded by a lions den of liars and thieves, it is amazing he is getting anything done at all.

In any case, I write the above in my defense of reading racists websites. By which I mean, I NO LONGER TRUST ANY NEWS SOURCE and all news sources are now of roughly equal value. The more that I read and learn the more that I see that every piece of information has "english" on the cue ball and I am being played. The author is ALWAYS trying to fucking hoodwink me. I am even suspicious of this site because it works so bloody well. How is this infrastructure holding up and growing so well? Amazing.

Today, I decided to post here because of the above pushing me to try out TOR and various workflows. We have handed ALL OF OUR INSTITUTIONS OVER TO POST MODERNISTS AND MARXISTS. All of them. Basically, we have lost the war already. We are starting so far behind that it is almost impossible to put into words. As such, I am researching TOR and related workflows because we all are going to have to go underground to fight this.

As part of the initial test, it seemed appropriate to see what people thought about the next person in line for freedom from political malfeasense / political prison. I swear to god I was sweating bullets for Flynn and Stone. I don't fully understand why Stone did not get a full pardon, but Flynn is still in grave danger given that the judge has now asked for a full en banc hearing which has a chance of being taken on because Obama judges DO NOT judge cased on merrit but BASED ON THEIR POLITICAL BIAS.

Anyway, this answer is spinning out of control, there are far too many threads. I wanted to answer as truthfully as possible without triggering peoples mental firewall right away. If I do get banned, no probs, if someone would be kind to keep the Assange thread going, that would be most helpful.

God, that would be amazing.

What ... the ... actual ... fuck. Jesus dude. Thank you for that once again.

So, what we have learned since 2016 is that all of the people in power are not only compromised but fucking sick in the head?

Jesus.

Well, there is also the other question of the deadmans switch as well. I thought he had inciminating information to help him out in this kind of situation.

I have been watching the Viva Frei vlawgs with Robert Barnes and have been learning that the law is a really strange game that is a combination of chess, poker and underwater basket weaving. It seems like, the choices everyone is forced to make almost never have anything to do with justice and everything to do with a weird combinatorial permutation calculation on how many ways can a sequence of words be interpreted.

Thank you. That is interesting.

If I am understanding what you are saying, from a purely nationalist perspective that is probably true.

But then again, Seth Rich was a democrat and probably a progressive. If he were alive he would not be on our side.

That being said, sometimes it is important to recognize the important to contributions even of our enemies.

I hope I understood your post correctly.

Thank you. Also, call me captain obvious. Of course.

Would you mind expanding on your question? I am not certain what other side I have referred to.

As a general comment, it is obvious now that all of the conspiracy people were "directionaly correct". It is now so obvious that there are groups of people that are beyond the law that they can simply reach into prisons in front of security cameras and prison staff and kill the Epsteins of the world with no fear at all.

We all watched happen in real time. Never mind that we have watched THE LAW SYSTEM go after Flynn and Stone because of political vengange, we are now we watching live the torture of Assange for how many years?

I have bookmarked George Webb, thank you. Any comments are helpful.

I don't disagree. Can you post some more narrative on the Dana branch of the story? I am not sure I know all of it.

Obviously Trump knows, but he is surrounded by truth and lies. I have no idea how he can keep anything straight. Even his kids deceive him for their own ends (Ivanka / Kushner).

It is hard to tell where he stands on Assange, it's easy to be hard on Trump not knowing what it means to be 70 some odd years old and be running the world.

Can you post some linkage and narrative? I wish I kept notes during the run up to 2016, so much stuff has dissapeared.

You are not wrong.

If anyone with actual cred on the site wants to take this post and resubmit, please feel free. You have my permission to copy/paste any and all of my comments on here.

I would be happy to delete this thread (and account).