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peterstrzoked 25 points ago +25 / -0

If you assume that there aren’t massive numbers of negative reactions that are being covered up (wouldn’t surprise me, but I know lots of people who got the vax who are fine so far) the risk in taking the vaccine is pretty low.

I did the math the other day in another thread and it was like 1800 deaths associated with 167 million vaccine doses.

To compare to the flu vaccine in 2018-2019, there were ~350 deaths out of 160 million flu vaccines.

With that being said, there is still no reason to get it:

  • you can still get covid
  • you can still transmit covid to others
  • you still have to mask
  • you still have to social distance
  • there are exactly zero people who have taken it five years ago for us to be sure there are no long term effects

In addition to that, there are likely fertility issues - possibly covid related (that happen too if you get the vax) so unless you are in a high risk category for covid and are done having kids, there is zero reason to choose to take this vaccine at this point in time IMO

Spez: to add one final note - and maybe my entire point that I skipped: we should be fighting and resisting this vaccine more out of principle than anything. If we let them force us to take something just because it “probably won’t hurt us” then it makes it harder to fight the next one that will sterilize entire swaths of the population, etc

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peterstrzoked 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sounds like something a douche with a man bun would wear on a sweatshirt to me

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peterstrzoked 8 points ago +8 / -0

I don’t think the issue is the sweatshirt but the “namaste” on it.

I have no idea what it is so I’ll assume it’s a picture of an Indian taking a dump.

If so, then that is absolutely something wrong with the sweatshirt

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peterstrzoked 0 points ago +3 / -3

Were they there to execute a red flag seizure? Or were they arresting him over a domestic violence issue?

I don’t know what the laws are in Ohio but in some states there are situations where they automatically arrest one or both participants of the domestic dispute just to separate them for the night.

Regardless, if you are standing on your front porch shirtless and empty handed it’s too late to not comply - no matter why the cops are there.

At that point if you don’t put your hands behind your back when they tell you to, anything that follows is on you.

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peterstrzoked 32 points ago +32 / -0

This has nothing to do with poor people, migration, media or optics.

This is called money laundering.

This money will come straight back to the politicians and their buddies.

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peterstrzoked 8 points ago +8 / -0

On a flight I was on recently the flight attendant was haranguing some lady behind us the whole flight.

Every five seconds:

“Ma’am, you need to put your mask on between bites.”

“Ma’am, you need to put your mask on between bites.”

“Ma’am, you need to put your mask on between bites.”

I don’t think the flight attendant did anything but stare at this woman the whole flight because she kept saying it over and over - with miscellaneous threats mixed in about how she was going to take her food away if she wouldn’t comply.

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peterstrzoked 18 points ago +18 / -0

I can’t fucking stand this shit. Flew 3 legs a couple weeks back. One of the three flights was pretty clear that it was an FAA regulation but made sure to emphasize that it carried the weight/penalties of federal law.

The other two just flat out called it a federal law.

The fucked up part is that the first is basically true. Congress has completely abdicated their job and basically given federal agencies carte Blanche to do whatever they want anytime they want via “regulations.”

Basically a federal agency does whatever the fuck they want, however unconstitutional (see ATF for best examples) and then if congress doesn’t like it they have to pass a law to nullify the regulations, or a new president is “installed” and his sycophants immediately rewrite all the regulations to do whatever they want, and congress has to fight to pass a law to stop it.

Our government was never intended to function in this way - and it’s why the “deep state” has so much power.

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peterstrzoked 1 point ago +1 / -0

Supposedly the mRNA shit is only in your system for a few days then it’s gone. So fingers crossed for your friend.

I would not take it while pregnant under ANY circumstances though.

I was arguing with my “conservative” and otherwise reasonable brother about the vaccines yesterday - his position is that even if there is only a nominal benefit (reduced covid symptoms if you do get it, reduced risk of transferring it to others) there’s no benefit in not getting it, so why not. He believes the propaganda that its miracle technology that is scientifically sound and that any adverse reactions are extremely small, just like other vaccine we have accepted for a long time (I’m not an anti vaxxer, they might disagree with me here).

He may very well be correct - however, there is absolutely no way to say with any reasonable certainty that there won’t be long term effects (he scoffed at this suggestion, presumably because he’s been brainwashed) since the number of people who have taken it 5 years ago or ten years ago is exactly zero.

There is also no way to know if he’s correct about the reduced symptoms or reduced risk of transmission since the number of people who have caught covid after getting the vaccine is small (at least that has been reported).

Your best bet may be to just lie and say you got it - get your friends and family off your back, go to the wedding, whatever.

It’s not ideal, but we don’t live in an ideal world, and the trajectory we are on does not look good. It would have been great if Germans hiding Jews in WW2 could tell the nazis “yeah I’ve got Jews in my attic but you can’t take them fuck off” but that’s not how it works.

Do what you have to do to live to fight another day. If these people can lie and cheat to steal the presidency and take away all our freedom, there is no moral obligation for us to tell the truth to them and get ourselves put on a list of dissidents. It’s much easier to fight back later if the Nazis don’t already have your number.

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peterstrzoked 0 points ago +0 / -0

I was joking - but lots of stuff are bad for you when you are preggers. All sorts of OTC stuff is off limits, etc.

I would say as a general rule of thumb anyone who is pregnant or wants to be pregnant should refrain from taking experimental vaccines unless they want to give birth to a three eyed baby - regardless of whether there is a warning or not.

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peterstrzoked 4 points ago +4 / -0

I dunno - I don’t think the vaccine is necessarily bad. I think anyone who insists it’s safe is a moron or a liar; I don’t care how solid anyone claims the science behind it is, we have a sample size of exactly zero people who took it 5 or 10 years ago to have any idea what the long term effects are. Maybe there won’t be any, maybe there will be.

I do know tons of people who’ve gotten it and they are all alive, and none of them got majorly sick from it. That’s about as anecdotal as all the people I know who got covid and none of them are dead nor do I know anyone who was even hospitalized. I know “of” people who supposedly had it harder, but no one I actually knew. Just like I’ve read lots of stories of supposed bad reactions to the vaccine.

If I was in a high risk category for covid and wasn’t interested in losing weight and getting in shape to get out of the risk category, and I wasn’t planning on having more kids, I would consider getting it. I would also roll the dice and take it if there was something else in it for me - say $10k+

My main problem with the vaccine is that they admit that the benefits are questionable at best - “you can still get covid, you can still transmit covid, you still have to mask and social distance etc”

Wow! Where can I sign up for all of that? (Not)

I am by no means anti vax, if I stepped on a rusty nail I’m going to get a tetanus booster, but that’s cause I want nothing to do with getting lock jaw.

I’ve only gotten one flu vaccine - and it was only because I had a newborn and my wife talked me into it. I’m not scared of the flu and I’m definitely not scared of the wu-flu, although I know people who “had” it and they said that it felt unnatural, like it was genetically engineered (whatever that means). Still not scared. I’ll take my 99.9% chances against the wu-coof over a vaccine, even if the risks of something bad happening to me are lower than 0.1%. My immune system will be better off if I get it and build my own antibodies than if I do it artificially.

To address your actual comment; Trump has a massive ego, it’s one of the things we love about him - and for better or worse, he is responsible for the quickly developed vaccine. I think in 5-10 years we will have a much better idea of how good or bad the vaccine is to actually judge it, but I get why Trump is proud of getting it done.

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peterstrzoked 18 points ago +20 / -2

You can support Trump without agreeing with everything he did or said.

I’m the biggest Trump supporter I know. I don’t agree with everything he did and have no problem admitting where I disagree with a particular decision he made.

The correct response to the China virus would have been to shut down international travel, quarantine US citizens coming home, and then focus on protecting the vulnerable while letting everyone else get herd immunity.

The problem with that is that response looks an awful lot like “doing nothing.” (Coincidentally, doing nothing is the best thing for the gov to do in just about all cases)

If Trump would have gone that route, every single death in 2020 would have been blamed on him (they did that anyway, but it would have been worse because the normie Republicans would have bought into that lie along with the Democrats).

A huge number of Trump voters are normie Republicans, and he probably would have lost the election, instead of winning bigly.

It turns out it didn’t matter because the entire world was prepared to steal it no matter how many votes he won, but he played the pandemic politically correct.

I don’t know whether he played it the way he did only for political reasons or because he ended up buying into it (fucking Ivanka in his ear?) - but it was definitely the wrong choice for dealing with the wu-coof.

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peterstrzoked 1 point ago +2 / -1

You’re not wrong, although two people apparently took your comment as you calling them clowns

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peterstrzoked 5 points ago +5 / -0

They forgot they have immunity from being sued so they included their standard disclaimer for everything?

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peterstrzoked 7 points ago +7 / -0

How do we get to a point in society where everyone assumes this without the bar?

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peterstrzoked 1 point ago +1 / -0

The end to end encryption is swell - I highly recommend it for everything.

But in the case of Gab, for example (I won’t use Parler because they were dumb for being so tightly coupled to AWS), they run their own servers, but they are still dependent on their ISP.

In a SHTF scenario, where the ISP decides to deplatform Gab for wrongthink, it doesn’t matter if the ISP can’t read the actual traffic (they shouldn’t be able to anyway). The ISP will be able to verify that traffic to/from Gab is going to a particular customer of theirs and shut them down.

This is the inherent problem of our own voice on the internet. If it’s accessible to the normies we want to reach, it’s accessible to the fascists who want to shut it down.

With a mesh network that could be bridged onto the internet in millions of different places it would allow us to stay connected even in the worst case scenario. ISPs could shut down home users for bridging these devices to the internet, but it would be a much more difficult proposal than the ISP only having to worry about blocking Gab or Parler.

It’s just an idea - but it’s been eating at me for the last few months so I thought I would throw it out there.

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peterstrzoked 5 points ago +5 / -0

We need to start working on an open source/open hardware mesh network environment for when the ISPs get on board with the conservative banning.

We’ve seen what a web host (Amazon) did to cripple a conservative outlet, that is only a stones throw away from the ISPs banding together and blocking wrongthink.

They are currently limited by common carrier rules, but that does not prevent them from banning users who break the law, and we are within reach of our current fraudulent government being able to start making speech they disagree with illegal.

When elections don’t matter, laws don’t matter, we are in a dangerous time.

Imagine however a world where anyone, for the cost of a raspberry pi and maybe an antenna, could add a node to a mesh network allowing traffic to flow without the approval of the ISP gatekeepers. If the cost was low enough and the model was sound, it would make for a good back up infrastructure for when the Great Wall of China comes here.

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