I think you might be confusing the tape that the guards were recorded on while they were sleeping and the tape from directly across the hallway from epsteins cell (or maybe i'm the one confusing them). Its my understanding that there was one camera at the end of the hallway, and one across the hallway from his cell. There's also other cameras throughout the MCC, including one behind the guards desk, which is why they can see that they were browsing for furniture (on their computer screens) and sleeping away. When barr watched one of the videos, which camera was it from (end of hallway, across from cell, or behind the guards desk). If its the one behind the guards desk, then nobody can say that nobody entered epsteins cell. You could say that nobody else entered the WING, but not his cell. If bar actually saw a tape from the two within the cell wing, then he could say nobody entered epsteins cell. So which tape (of the 3) do you think barr viewed?
Ok thanks for that. I thought I had seen something similar before. Yes it's entirely unusual that he claims this, but everything we had heard up until that point was that no cameras were functioning properly. So were we being lied to then or are we being lied to now? I'm still not convinced that the footage he is watching is of that night or of the correct cell. Given the fact that the first suicide attempt video was accidentally overwritten (in combination with all the other massive failures of the MCC that night and in general), why would I believe that the video he watched is the correct video?
I believe that that video he saw showed nobody entering the cell that night, but unless it ALSO shows first responders show up and pull epsteins corpse out of the cell on a gurney, then I would argue its not of the correct cell or day.
Can you link me to an article or source that says a camera pointing directly at epsteins cell the night of his death was working, the video was saved, they know it was from the correct wing of the building, and it was viewed by Barr, and that nobody entered epsteins cell that night?
Edit: your link above is just what I said previously (first "suicide attempt" video was from the wrong wing). I'm looking for a source that says (on the night of his death):
- the camera directly outside epsteins cell was functional
- it recorded video
- that video is still in tact
- that video is from the correct wing/cell of the prison
- that video has been viewed by barr
- barr says in that recording nobody entered or exited the cell until first responders got there
I thought about this as well, but didn't you hear? The recording of the first "suicide attempt" was overwritten by a recording of a DIFFERENT WING OF THE BUILDING. So when barr says nobody entered into the cell, he's right, nobody entered the cell that was recorded. BUT IT WAS THE WRONG CELL. I guess at the time they didn't realize they were looking at a recording of the wrong wing. So, now we're back to having a bunch of evidence that says epstein was murdered.
Edit: Also all the other cell cameras were malfunctioning or did not record anything. As far as I know, the only recording that they have is of the WRONG WING OF THE BUILDING. If you can find evidence that suggests any of the cameras in epsteins wing were functional and that their video recordings still exist, let me know. However I don't think that's the case.
Yeah. I was talking to a friend of mine. He said, militarily, it's probably different. The only consequence internationally regarding a military related incident would be the response by the nation whos citizens were killed (in this case canada).
I was thinking about the thoughts being made by the commander. If he didnt fire, and it WAS a missile, people could die. If he did fire and it WASNT a missile, people could die. It's like a no win situation I guess. Since he is Iranian, he would err on the side in favor of Iran. Which means to fire against it. So maybe there's no really good answer here. I think if Canada wanted to retaliate against Iran, they might have a good foothold for such a claim or action (not that they should though).
You're a woman whose been raped before. It's your birthday, you're chilling at home and you saw some recent news reports about suspicious pedestrians in your area. Its dark out and your lights are off. You hear somebody fooling around with your deadbolt and doorknob. You run to your gun case, grab your pistol and a magazine, and load the pistol. The front door opens, you see a silhouette. You think its an intruder here to rape you and probably kill you. You pull the trigger shooting the intruder and they die instantly. It was actually your best friend coming in to set up a surprise birthday party event for you and she was pregnant with 170 children at the time.
Did you kill somebody?
Yes
Did you murder somebody?
No
Did you just commit criminally negligent manslaughter on a massive scale?
Yes
Is the consequence for 170+ counts of criminally negligent manslaughter the death penalty?
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were. And I wouldn't feel bad either if it was.
What you're talking about is called involuntary manslaughter (criminally-negligent manslaughter). It's when you dont intend to kill somebody but they die anyway. He thought it was a missile, not a commercial airliner (or so he claims). People who commit manslaughter dont get off scott free because they feel bad. Their actions contributed to the death of somebody else (in this case 170+ people). So its like mass-manslaughter in this case (if that's even a thing, if not its 170+ individual cases of involuntary manslaughter).
Assuming he actually did it, you are right about one thing. He will be haunted by this for the rest of his life. The only thing you got wrong is how short the rest of his life should be (here's a hint: not very long).
Well guys, as long as he "wishes he were dead" and "accepts full responsibility" for it, then nothing else has to happen right? /s
If he admits to it and accepts responsibility for it, then he should get the death penalty. He killed 170+ people. Serial Killers dont kill that many people in their lifetime. This guy did it in an instant.
What doesnt make sense though is that this guy admits to it, but the government was still bulldozing the crash site and was lying about being responsible for it for the longest time. My guess is they found a patsy, and its this commander guy. I doubt he's actually responsible.
they dont want to take credit, because they made a mistake and shot down a civilian commercial airliner full of iranians and canadians (who are very likely to be dual citizenship iranian-canadians). So they basically shot down a commercial airliner full of their own citizens (and a handfull of citizens of other countries). They dont want to look like idiots, so they dont want to take credit and dont want to provide the black box and its data.
right. exactly. there's zero evidence of anything incriminating. everybody just throws their hands up in the air and shrugs, saying "it was the perfect storm, but there's no conspiracy." The only thing we have to go by is the words of the people involved, because theres "zero evidence of anything". And of course the words of those people can't be trusted. So... "zero evidence of anything". Also this place isn't logged, recorded or monitored. The guards at the jail FABRICATED their logs. So now the logs at this facility dont mean anything. Footage is missing and cameras are "malfunctioning", so thus there is nothing recorded or monitored. So I'm not quite sure why you're upset with my 'zero evidence of anything' statement. It's entirely true.
no this is his first "suicide attempt". the one where his cellmate probably roughed him up and tried to take him out, but failed. convieniently this footage is missing and cannot be found. The second "suicide attempt" where he actually DID die, they said the cameras were malfunctioning and there was no video. So once again, zero evidence of anything, so thus the clinton kill team gets away with murder and can deny deny deny.
Actually this entire thread seems out of character and out of place for thedonald.win. It's the first and only thread i've seen that has made me go "wtf". I wonder if it was created (and responded to by fraudulent accounts) by reddit liberals to make thedonald.win look like its promoting violence against people. I sure hope so, otherwise thedonald.win may be heading in a direction that is... sad.
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