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sethrich 2 points ago +2 / -0

employers can easily mandate it: if you are vaccinated - show proof and get an extra vacation day or some incentive to do so. if you aren't, then they will find some other reason to fire you. and there is no way to fight that because in most states companies can fire you for any reason they choose to, as long as it isn't a protected class (age, sexuality, gender, religion, etc.).

businesses can too in the same way: if you show proof, we will give you a discount. if you don't you are not allowed in the store, but you can still shop online or whatever.

unless the laws are changed at a federal level, it is a losing battle.

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sethrich 1 point ago +2 / -1

Trump too of course, just because we support him doesn't make him exempt. Otherwise we fall into the lefty trap of rules for thee but not for me.

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sethrich 13 points ago +14 / -1

basically what the left says about us "it's not murder if it's trump supporters".

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sethrich -1 points ago +2 / -3

I'd rather keep myself and my family safe. We already got our vaccines with no adverse effects. I suggest if you are worried about the virus, then you do the same, but it is your choice. I chose to get it so I don't have to worry.

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sethrich -18 points ago +1 / -19

if you don't break the law, you don't have anything to worry about.

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sethrich 1 point ago +3 / -2

i'm sure it has nothing to do with the lack of quality programming and the rise of competitive services. i have all the streaming services and netflix has gone downhill a lot in the last few years. they lost most of the nbc stuff to hulu and peacock. disney+ blows them out of the water when it comes to original series. hbo max beats them on sheer quality. even amazon prime has a much better selection now. netflix tried to focus on it's originals and failed more often than not.

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sethrich -1 points ago +8 / -9

as a show of solidarity, that is awesome. as a way to make a point, it is absolutely retarded. you won't get a refund for voluntarily leaving the plane, and you just saved the airline on fuel costs. plus you have to pay for another ticket, so one of the airlines will get your money.

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sethrich -1 points ago +1 / -2

your hyperbole is retarded and you should feel bad for spreading fake news. if you read the actual wording of the law, petty theft is still a crime. it was just changed to a misdemeanor instead of a felony. it is not legalized theft. it is still a crime. there are still penalties, and you can still be arrested for it. maybe educate yourself better, do a little research. it is obvious the schools have failed you, but there is still hope for you to better yourself.

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sethrich -1 points ago +1 / -2

theft is theft. by your logic, it is ok for lefties to steal from trump supporters because we support a different person than they do. also san francisco is a city not a state. this is why our education system needs an overhaul, it cranks out retards like you.

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sethrich -2 points ago +1 / -3

not all of us run away. i personally don't care about cancel culture. the more people that boycott sports, the cheaper tickets to games are. i have attended more sports games in the last two years than i have in my lifetime prior to that. it's been great as a massive fan of all sports. so i hope everyone keeps boycotting stuff so i can take advantage of it.

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sethrich 0 points ago +4 / -4

yep, all my lefty friends don't care about any of that, except trump is no longer in the white house anymore. they are getting stimmy checks, and that will keep them happy for a while.

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sethrich 1 point ago +10 / -9

while i don't agree with your religious angle (i am an atheist), i do agree that the racist posts here have gotten out of hand. it is definitely a different tone than it used to be. more stormfags.win and less patriots.win. it isn't as fun to come on here as it used to be. most of the memes are shit-tier, every other post is some veiled (or open) racist bullshit, and some of the stuff posted, i question what it has to do with trump supporters (like the hundreds of posts about the royal family drama - wtf even was that bullshit, this isn't britishpolitics.win).

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sethrich 1 point ago +8 / -7

this place has definitely been more stormfag.win than patriots.win lately, and it sucks. wish these racist white power assholes would just fuck off already.

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sethrich -4 points ago +1 / -5

i do for human life. not an unwanted clump of cells. and i have the utmost respect for a woman's right to choose what she does with her body. we don't get to tell her what to do, doesn't matter how we feel.

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sethrich -1 points ago +4 / -5

man you q-fags are getting worse by the day.

this patriots.win not doomer.win

you're looking for greatawakening.win, where you can go doom with all your retarded q friends.

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sethrich -2 points ago +1 / -3

the Morrill Tariff was passed after states had already begun to secede; secession itself allowed for the passage of the bill. it had no effect on a secession already in motion (The Great Civil War Lie by Marc-William Palen). had they remained, the tariff would not have passed. the tariff had nothing to do with the domestic economy, it was aimed at imports, which, admittedly the south was highly dependent on (the idiocy of relying on one major economic specialization). the tariff was aimed at how duties were assessed on goods entering the country, and it raised rates (which were the lowest in the world).

Lincoln did not want war at all. in fact he was willing to let the south throw their little temper tantrum, as long as they did not try to take any federal property. In his view, they had not seceded, because they could not under the Constitution.

"I therefore consider that in view of the Constitution and the laws the Union is unbroken, and to the extent of my ability, I shall take care, as the Constitution itself expressly enjoins upon me, that the laws of the Union be faithfully executed in all the States. Doing this I deem to be only a simple duty on my part, and Ishall perform it so far as practicable unless my rightful masters, the American people, shall withhold the requisite means or in some authoritative manner direct the contrary. I trust this will not be regarded as a menace, but only as the declared purpose of the Union that it will constitutionally defend and maintain itself.

In doing this there needs to be no bloodshed or violence, and there shall be none unless it be forced upon the national authority. The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere. Where hostility to the United States in any interior locality shall be so great and universal as to prevent competent resident citizens from holding the Federal offices, there will be no attempt to force obnoxious strangers among the people for that object. While the strict legal right may exist in the Government to enforce the exercise of these offices, the attempt to do so would be so irritating and so nearly impracticable withal that I deem it better to forego for the time the uses of such offices.

The mails, unless repelled, will continue to be furnished in all parts of the Union. So far as possible the people everywhere shall have that sense of perfect security which is most favorable to calm thought and reflection. The course here indicated will be followed unless current events and experience shall show a modification or change to be proper, and in every case and exigency my best discretion will be exercised, according to circumstances actually existing and with a view and a hope of a peaceful solution of the national troubles and the restoration of fraternal sympathies and affections.

That there are persons in one section or another who seek to destroy the Union at all events and are glad of any pretext to do it I will neither affirm nor deny; but if there be such, I need address no word to them. To those, however, who really love the Union may I not speak?

Before entering upon so grave a matter as the destruction of our national fabric, with all its benefits, its memories, and its hopes, would it not be wise to ascertain precisely why we do it? Will you hazard so desperate a step while there is any possibility that any portion of the ills you fly from have no real existence? Will you, while the certain ills you fly to are greater than all the real ones you fly from, will you risk the commission of so fearful a mistake?" (first inaugural address of abraham lincoln, https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lincoln1.asp)

I would also like to point out and expand on the contemporary reasons for the war, as mentioned in documents from the time:

In December 1860 president-elect Abraham Lincoln wrote to Alexander Stephens (future VP of the rebellion) "You think slavery is right and should be extended; while we think slavery is wrong and ought to be restricted. That I suppose is the rub. It certainly is the only substantial difference between us" (http://www.civilwarcauses.org/aleck.htm)

In March 1861, Alexander Stephens gave what became to be known the Cornerstone Speech, here are some excerpts:

"The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. ...[Thomas Jefferson's] ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. ...Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition."

sounds pretty racist to me.

In 1863 Charles Sumner, the Republican senator, gave a speech during the discussions to admit Kansas as a state. in it he said "There are two apparent rudiments to this war. One is Slavery and the other is State Rights. But the latter is only a cover for the former. If Slavery were out of the way there would be no trouble from State Rights. The war, then, is for Slavery, and nothing else. It is an insane attempt to vindicate by arms the lordship which had been already asserted in debate. With mad-cap audacity it seeks to install this Barbarism as the truest Civilization. Slavery is declared to be the "corner-stone" of the new edifice." (The Barbarism of Slavery (1860) by Charles Sumner)

in August 1862, Lincoln explained the nationalist goal as the preservation of the Union, one month prior to the Emancipation Proclamation: "I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was."... My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. ...I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free." (letter to Horace Greeley, found at http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm)

he literally just wanted to preserve the US, regardless of his personal views. Lincoln's war goals were reactions to the war, as opposed to causes. He was a true patriot.

In his 2nd Inaugural Address he stated "One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it." (Abraham Lincoln, 2nd Inaugural Address).

So yeah, i'm pretty confident in saying Slavery was a major cause of the civil war.

i encourage you to do more research, spend time at the library or online, look for the original source documents, and to read a variety of interpretative texts. even if it conflicts with your current worldview. in this day and age, you can access a wide variety of information and dig really deep. you will get a clearer picture of how and why your statements are wrong. the civil war is among the most well documented and discussed parts of our history. understanding the reasons behind it will serve you well.

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sethrich -3 points ago +1 / -4

lol imagine using wikipedia as a source. https://cwcrossroads.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/tariffs-government-policy-and-secession/

the tariff in question, the morrill tariff, was passed AFTER secession.

the tariff you refer to (which was adopted to appease the southern states) was nullified in 1842, by the Black Tariff, designed as a protectionist tariff on all imported goods. The effects of this were bad, and it was repealed 4 years later by the Walker Tariff which set tariffs at their lowest (25%). this increased trade.

The Morrill tariff, set rates much higher, again designed to protect domestic industry (coincidentally something Trump advocated for). The point is, these tariffs were on IMPORTS. the South did not have to pay anything to the North, or whatever bullshit you are spouting. the South 100% seceded because of the abolitionist movement, because Abraham Lincoln was elected (mainly Northerners voted for him), and because they knew that these two factors combined would mean no more slaves soon. Like i said, a bunch of uppity racists got angry they couldn't play with their ball, so they tried to go home. too bad the North put the smackdown on them, and made the South their bitches.

and i'm none of the above. I am a black southern libertarian.

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