OK.

BUT NOW WHAT??????????????????????????

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yet they seem to think they can go much-much further.

That's my fear.

We've lost our will/ability to really fight.

How many millions of us have been wearing face diapers for the last six months?

So weak.

So disgusting.

That sounds good but so far there has been nothing substantive to prove it's nothing more than fantasy.

Short term gain. They are stealing a presidential election!!!!!!!!!!

See? Your reply is the kind of weak sauce my friend finally made me realize as well.

EXACTLY.

This is totally how I feel.

I would go so far as to say it should be a MILLION in D.C. demanding this shit stop now. We need to rattle their windows legit.

I pray you are right. I really do.

I just think we should have been far more prepared and fight much smarter. Places like this are great for spending time with some like-minded people, but at the end of the day, memes and keyboard warrior declarations of "Treason! Hang the from trees!" isn't going to get it done.

It makes us look even weaker.

You are totally right.

Proud Boys are tiny when compared to the Antifa/BLM monstrosity.

It seems we are outnumbered at every turn.

That's interesting that you brought up violence from the right. My friend made that point as well saying we are stuck in a prison of our own making. We do nothing and we lose. We get violent and the media gleefully pounces, the powers that be denounce us, and we are driven underground once again.

Lose-lose.

I would call that a classic Chicom form of fighting. Those bastards are a lot better at this than we are because we've had it so good for so long we've forgotten what it means to actually fight to win.

Yup, total chaos to hasten the fall of America brought to you by the Chicoms.

No, he seems to be trying to avoid the political attacks that were ready to be dropped on his White House getting preferential treatment.

But we must also be open to discussion or we are no better than the Reddit Nazis who brought us all here in the first place.

Sharing concerns or frustrations over apparent losing of ground in this war (and make no mistake, we are at war) must be welcome not attacked.

Nothing is going down except America apparently.

I wish all it took was a big Trump pic to stop it but that's part of the problem isn't it?

Too many think posting said pic and saying "It's going down" is enough to defend America.

The Founding Fathers must be rolling in their graves.

You might be right - it was too spread out and disorganized. That was the vibe of the whole thing.

And yes, "low energy" was how it was described to me. They were very-very disappointed and left there saying "America is fucked" and not nearly enough people seem to care.

I brought up the affidavits to him.

He replied with an LOL.

"See," he said. "You're talking about some paper saving you when the other side doesn't give a damn about affidavits, testimony, rules, - they only care about the result."

So far everything points to him being 100% correct about that.

That's the part he said proved how unprepared they were.

He said (and look, he's a lib but he's also wicked smart and has political campaign experience as well) that the first 72 hours after the steal was critical and the Trump crew really dropped the ball and they've been playing increasingly desperate catch up ever since.

No, I'm a realist.

And I've been coming to TD since Reddit.

I think you may be right.

We've grown very soft on our side. Very complacent. Far too comfortable.

We talk tough but rarely deliver tough.

That's the part that ended up depressing me so much.

I was pissed at first but the more he explained what you just did the more I had to admit he was right.

We have been so damn weak. And I see that weakness repeated in here over and over again. People waste time on stupid memes and "IT'S HAPPENING" posts and saying to "Trust the plan" and that Trump will go Insurrection Act, and on and on and on while in the meantime our side can only muster about 5000 people in DC in the wake of the Chicoms stealing our country from us?

As I said, my friend and his wife were disgusted by the turnout. They drove six hours to get there and couldn't believe how small it was, how disorganized, etc.

But when are values overtaken by losing?

If everyone took the "We are not tyrants" approach in 1776 wouldn't that mean no war for independence would never have been fought?

But we can see what has gone down so far and that has been the Chicoms securing the steal w/o breaking a sweat so far.

And the Stop the Steal rallies sure seem to have lost the momentum. This past weekend was a joke. 5000 people? That's nothing and won't even come close to making the government and it media cohorts squirm or take us seriously.

What it will do is have the Chicoms nodding happily and saying, "we got this - and it was SO EASY."

Totally believe Trump won Virginia.

That early call by Fox was the first real "UH-OH there is fuckery afoot" moment for me.

It was downhill from there.

YUP

Sounds too much like "TRUST THE PLAN" crap that has gone very stale around here.

I'm all for optimism until it devolves into clown world honk-honk stupidity.