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thesummerwind -1 points ago +7 / -8

Disagree. It's not the role of the military to intervene in elections. Cowardly and sometimes corrupt judges failed to consider the evidence of corruption and fraud.

Think of it this way. What sort of country would Trump be president of if the military had intervened?

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thesummerwind 9 points ago +10 / -1

The best remedy is to be the sane ones. Be the group that unequivocally rejects political violence (unlike the left, where Biden/Harris have yet to denounce antifa by name). Be the group that picks simple, popular reforms and focuses on those rather than exotic conspiracy theories. Keep it simple. Be consistent.

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thesummerwind 11 points ago +11 / -0

Be the group that unequivocally rejects political violence--and make the point that many on the left support antifa, which is explicitly an organization dedicated to political violence.

Biden and Harris have yet to condemn antifa by name.

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thesummerwind 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. Be the group that unequivocally rejects political violence--and make the point that many on the left support antifa, which is explicitly an organization dedicated to political violence.
  2. Organize in order to raise money, turn out vote for candidates in primaries, and protest.
  3. Focus on local politics and particularly election transparency.
  4. The Biden administration will be manufacturing red pill ingredients in massive quantities. Harvest, manufacture red pills, and administer liberally. It's a lot harder to defend Trump than it is to criticize Biden and the government in general.
  5. Identify a few clear goals for the movement that enjoy broad support and where there is a clear need for change.
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thesummerwind 23 points ago +23 / -0

Why play the game in hard mode?

AOC took her seat by winning the primary with 10% of the votes that would be required to win in the general.

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thesummerwind 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's not the weapons that are a threat to the corrupt establishment. It's the organization. The weapons are a distraction that provides fuel for the "domestic terrorism" psyop that is underway.

This movement should be absolutely opposed to political violence of any kind.

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thesummerwind 8 points ago +9 / -1

Biden will be manufacturing the ingredients for red pills in massive quantities.

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thesummerwind 1 point ago +1 / -0

How about a lion inside the silhouette of an elephant?

An organized America First caucus inside the republican party would be transformative.

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thesummerwind 1 point ago +1 / -0

Would you be more or less likely to vote if every election you ended up with the same corrupt politicians no matter what? Imagine being an inner city black American. Have some sympathy for your fellow Americans.

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thesummerwind 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're assuming that 88% is the true number of black people that voted for Biden. It may have been much smaller than this considering that most of the fraud was concentrated in areas with black voters.

This is why I scoff when they talk about efforts to expose fraud being about disenfranchise black people. Nope. It's about disenfranchising black people. As a non-racists (as opposed to an anti-racist, which is a type of racist), I assume black people are the victims of election fraud when you see the anomalies in this election in predominately black districts. Because of the historical injustices suffered on by the ancestors of our fellow black Americans, we should re-double our efforts to get the bottom of this election fraud.

Based on polls before the election, some were suggesting the possibility of Trump getting as much as 30% of the black vote. You have to wonder if that might have been true if there hadn't been suspiciously high turnout...

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thesummerwind 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks for the positive comment.

On the more controversial side (for this forum), I don't know for certain that Biden would lose the election if all "legal" votes were counted. But, I do know that there is plenty of evidence to warrant more investigation which requires court orders that haven't been forthcoming.

There is a real possibility that Biden got more votes in swing states by Zuckerberg legally (but certainly not morally) funding what amounts to government sanctioned democrat "get out the vote" efforts. It's likely that these efforts were quasi-legal in the sense that the table was set by the democrats for massive fraud through relaxed election integrity measures justified by COVID.

None of this even begins to take into account the stunning censorship and media manipulation by the left.

Part of opposing this effective overthrow of our government by the left is the valid challenge of the legitimacy of the last election. The left has no mandate and certainly doesn't represent the will of the people. The majority of their voters don't even have the slightest inkling of what they voted for and may not be so keen to give up their ability to vote our corruption and tyranny in the future.

The left certainly challenged the legitimacy of Trump's presidency on what was ultimately shown to be false pretense. It's interesting to note that while there were many style and magnitude differences, the only substantial policy differences between Obama and Trump were China and bringing home troops (and some would argue that Obama was also for bringing home troops).

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thesummerwind 2 points ago +2 / -0

Poor black people are so fucked over by democrats its not even funny.

BLM collects over a billion dollars. How are they using it? To promote white guilt and get more successful black people into boardrooms. White people feeling guilty doesn't help poor black people and may actually have a negative effect. Having more black executives doesn't change life for the other 99.9%. The reality is that a black person is far more likely to be offered a hand up by a white person than a black person--which has more to do with people being people than skin color.

Of course, those things are a lot easier than providing safe neighborhoods, good educational opportunities, and economic opportunity to poor black people (which, BTW, could be done regardless of race). And, if you actually did these things you'd have fewer poor black people and the democrats would lose that portion of their base.

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thesummerwind 2 points ago +2 / -0

No one asks the question of what legalizing crime will do to poor people. Will it encourage them to develop skills that contribute to society thus building a better future or will it encourage them to become better criminals?

Unintended consequences.

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thesummerwind 2 points ago +3 / -1

Forming a third party is an almost sure way to fail.

Right now, you are the Republican party. If you don't like your representatives, replace them.

Vote in primaries. Participate in party. If you don't feel welcome, keep bringing like minded friends until the shoe is on the other foot.

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thesummerwind 3 points ago +3 / -0

How many times more deadly do you think Coronavirus is compared to the flu? (looking at the entire population, not just young people)

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thesummerwind 13 points ago +13 / -0

They don't get it. It's not about anger and frustration. It's about using sunlight as a disinfectant. Fraud allegations should have been taken seriously from the beginning, but they haven't been. Every court has stayed away from ruling on the merits and used judicial loopholes to avoid weighing in on the evidence.

The democrats are treating this election as a mandate. Step 1: Eliminate the filibuster. Step 2: Pack the court, by definition nothing including DC statehood will be unconstitutional from that point forward. Step 3: Add new states and new voters to ensure permanent majority. Step 4: Use resulting power to reward allies, punish adversaries, and perpetuate power (i.e. tyranny). Eventually, as with all things, this will unravel but it will take decades and countless years of suffering. The pie will get smaller as the economy shrinks, China takes center stage, and there are fewer rewards to dole out. Squabbles over what remains along with fading faith in the leftist idealism will tear apart any remaining unity.

It's about fighting for this country and by extension the western democracy.

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thesummerwind 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are the Republican party. If you don't like your representatives, replace them.
Vote in primaries. Participate in the party. If you don't feel welcome, bring enough friends until the shoe is on the other foot. Realize that there are FAR more of you than their are establishment RINOs.

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thesummerwind 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's popular around here to slam the GOP. You should realize that YOU are the GOP now. If you don't like your representatives, replace them.

Don't be someone that let's other people choose your candidates. Vote in the primary and participate in the GOP. If you don't feel welcome for any reason, just bring enough friends until the shoe is on the other foot. It won't take much.

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thesummerwind 1 point ago +1 / -0

It won't be an easy battle. Populism won't get any help from the mainstream media and in fact will be trying to crush populism any way it can.

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thesummerwind 3 points ago +4 / -1

I see a lot of posts suggesting an armed insurrection. Influence is power. The use of force is a crude way of asserting influence. It's not as sexy, but demonstrations and mass civil disobedience would probably be far more effective means to gain influence. In this regard, the left is light years ahead of the right.

There are HUGE issues that the populist movement could use to grow:

  1. Election fraud. Who is for election fraud? This last election provided lots of material from which to build. The establishment uses election manipulation (both legal and illegal) to maintain power.
  2. Free speech. Who wants tech monopolies deciding what's allowed and not allowed? Who is confident they will use this power for good purposes?
  3. Immigration. Love immigrants, question immigration. Why would we allow massive numbers of new people into our country when we still have massive unemployment of black people. Immigration is a civil rights issue. Big tech and the chamber of commerce promote immigration to bolster their profits while making sympathetic sounds.
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thesummerwind -1 points ago +1 / -2

There are limits to what Trump can do. He's already given a great deal. Don't blame Trump for stepping down if Biden legally becomes president.

One man can't change an entire corrupt system. The system will need to be changed city by city, county by county, and state by state. Even Trump holding onto the presidency for another four years won't do it.

Influence is power. Today the establishment wins because it controls the media, big tech, and spends billions influencing elections. Winning won't be accomplished through an armed insurrection. It will be accomplished by convincing the majority of people that the establishment is corrupt and people like Jimmy Kimmel are propaganda tools for that establishment. Are you up to the task of building a better red pill?

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thesummerwind 2 points ago +3 / -1

We also need to identify good alternative candidates to run against them in the primary. We need to find people with populist values that are articulate, willing to take the heat from both the establishment as well as the left, and willing to give up what they are already successful doing.

We also need to organize America First caucuses that will get out the primary vote and help with fund raising for these candidates. It won't be necessary to raise as much money as the establishment, but it will be necessary to raise some critical threshold of money necessary to deliver the counter narrative.