We're talking about excess deaths, regardless of how they write them down they're still deaths.

Even if they write down all COVID deaths as GSW deaths if you have 300k excess deaths then those 300k people died of something.

The CDC...

The usual causes of death are down but they're not down enough, it's not like no one is dying from the flu, the number decreased a lot (IIRC about 50~60%) but all of this doesn't compensate for COVID deaths.

I think the same thing you do, many people may be dying due to lockdown measures, and it'd be consistent with excess deaths. Thing is there's people straight up denying more people died lol.

That's not a source, that's an article that assumes there were no excess deaths and draws conclusions from that.

I'm asking you for a source properly showing there are no excess deaths this year.

I can't find it from mobile, pretty sure it was based on CDC numbers from previous years, it's obviously an average out of many years since as you say this does fluctuate, then again it's always positive due to population growth.

The numbers I've seen talk about over 300k excess deaths.

Would you mind providing a source of your claims?

Same. I recently started posting instead of just lurking and this is as bad as reddit lol.

You mean the ones that explicitly said they wouldn't support Trump if he calls for the IA?

He may not be a very legitimate President in the eyes of many, but based on how things are going now he will be President.

Yes, they will lol.

Needless negativity... so what do you do when you lose over and over? You're happy about it? You're happy about how regardless of all your efforts you're still fucking losing?

Well the plan doesn't mention two consecutive terms.

Pretty much, "hold the line... by moving the line backwards!".

Trust the plan is a meme, the plan was to win the election on election night and avoid all possible fraud, well that didn't work... then the plan was to go to court and get something going, well that didn't work... then the plan was the massive Kraken, well that didn't work... then the plan was to get your cases rejected quickly in order to get to SCOTUS, well that didn't work... then the plan was something about some date in December and some EO, well that didn't work... then the plan was the Texas lawsuit, well that didn't work... now the plan is Jan 6th.

If you truly believe the plan was to end up having to call for a massive rally on Jan 6th then you're fucking wrong, we're talking plan Z here, because all previous plans fucking failed. Anyone here truly believes that this is the ideal scenario? Ideally the fraud would've been stopped, that was plan A and it failed, there were a lot of subsequent "plans" and they all failed, one could argue they didn't really fail because it was all to build popular support for Jan 6th, but let's be real here, anyone really believe that? Anyone actually thinks Trump wanted SCOTUS to give him the finger instead of actually listening to the case and ruling in his favor?

This is all common sense and very basic logic, if you fail to understand my point and still believe "It'S aLl PaRt Of ThE PlAn" then you're as retarded as your average /r/politics user.

I've been reading this site forever and honestly the amount of non-thinking that's going on is scary. There's plenty of people who know what's going on but there's a fuckton of people who have no clue what's going on and accept whatever fake news they see. I've been called a shill for pointing out how some shit a lot of people here seem to believe is false, there's no real thinking.

People need to realize that this site has been turning into /r/politics, it's just that what's supported is different.

I'm from a third world country, believe me what they "require" is irrelevant.

You can check the CDC data yourself.

I don't hear him saying they got crushed though?

Pretty sure this study used wrong data, it assumed there were no excess deaths relative to previous years and that's false. What's true is that many causes of death have decreased massively since they're being labelled as COVID (rightfully or not, it's been happening).

Source of this definition?

This has nothing to do with excess deaths though, and this isn't really a very relevant point either.

Most people who die from COVID have comorbidities, and COVID pushes them far enough for them to fall. This also applies to the flu and whatever other minor disease you can think of, COVID is just a very strong flu.

Now, if we have over 300k extra deaths this year compared to last year even after adjusting for the regular yearly increase of 1.3%~ (due to population growth) then something is killing more people... that may be COVID, or it may not.

You eventually learn that the most "trusted" fact checkers are basically "journalists" from the MSM fact-checking themselves, they're basically another news channel lol.

It actually didn't drop that much, unless you believe the CDC is lying.

This means nothing.

Democrats usually win on cities, which cover a very small area and have extremely high population density, meanwhile Republicans win on bigger areas with a very low population density. No reason to have ballot drop boxes every four square miles over the whole fucking state... you'd end up with 12.000 ballot drop boxes which is ridiculous.

If you bought this shit as some kind of smart argument then you're retarded, sorry.

Was this deleted? Link doesn't work.

Literally who making a claim.