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wootsat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Our country desperately needs to turn back to the Lord as we were then.

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wootsat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dude Bernie's the guy that, on Jimmy fallon, walked through the exact scenario that played out for the election, to try and get ahead of it, playing the "my fear is that the election is going to go down like this and Trump will say it's fraudulent." It's super creepy how specific he got.

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wootsat 9 points ago +10 / -1

Enforcing a 25 mph speed limit would ultimately result in more misery and death. Instituting these Draconian lockdowns will result in more misery and death than covid itself will.

No one likes people dying, the question is which course of action will result in less death and misery.

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wootsat 27 points ago +29 / -2

You think an 80 year old and a 25 year old in good health have the same chance of dying from covid?

Also, everyone who dies from car accidents because we don't enforce absolute speed limits of 25 mph, do their lives not matter? Why are you ok with them dying?

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wootsat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do you dispute all the damage I laid out that's being done in reaction to covid? Do you dispute that the covid numbers are similar to a bad flu? Have you considered that your position on this may have been wrong?

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wootsat 8 points ago +8 / -0

I think you're vastly underestimating the damage these covid measures have caused and are causing. Psychological damage. Economic damage. Jobs lost, children's education wildly disrupted. Humans are extremely social creatures, it's extremely bad for people's health and well-being to be locked away from one another. Massive amounts of elected surgeries and hospital visits delayed while hospitals remain open and unused, waiting for covid patients. How many people will have missed crucial visits that would have caught cancer earlier, as an example.

Then you have the extreme amount of nonsense that has come out from experts the entire time. Models that are wildly off, expert suggestions that contradict each other every few weeks. Social media platforms that ban discussion as conspiratorial one week because it goes against cdc and who guidelines, and the next week, cdc and who guidelines change to take that position.

Then you have the numbers. Even if it is as bad as the numbers bear out right now, there's zero chance it's worth the damage being done in reaction. But the numbers are clearly being miscounted. It's undisputed that Corona cases are being counted in ways that inflate the numbers. Deaths that are obviously not caused by covid, but the person had tested positive for covid are being counted as covid deaths (e.g. suicide or hit by a car while having had covid). Hospitals incentivized to claim covid as much as possible to make more money. Counting Corona cases not just by a positive test, but symptoms alone, contact with someone who had covid, etc

Then you can look at who is actually dying from it. Overwhelmingly the old and frail, much like the flu. People treat it like it's the plague or something. If you're not old and or in poor health, you have nothing to worry about (yes, the occasional anecdote of younger "healthy" people dying is out there, that will happen with the flu too).

Now there is extreme fear-mongering of a second wave, but now the media is only focused on cases, because deaths are staying the same or dropping. There's also blatant politicisation when you see left-leaning sources laughably insist the massive blm protests haven't contributed to the uptick in cases.

And yes, people are worried that the precedent of giving up so much liberty to tamp down on a glorified flu is a bad thing.

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wootsat 5 points ago +5 / -0

This sums up my experience as well. I specifically remember some point in the summer of 2016, after watching the media coverage (particularly CNN) become increasingly aggressive in their bias, saying "alright, I'm voting for Trump. I'm voting against the media. I don't want to live somewhere where the media just tells you who to vote for."

I agree Trump loses if the media don't piss themselves with anti-Trump propaganda.

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wootsat 6 points ago +6 / -0

Imo the virus itself is a 2 or 3 out of 10. The government reaction is creeping up to 6 or 7.

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wootsat 7 points ago +7 / -0

He actually did admit they were wrong about how much the virus has spread, which is huge. That was one of the key reasons a competing Oxford study predicting much less risk,

https://www.dailywire.com/news/oxford-epidemiologist-heres-why-that-doomsday-model-is-likely-way-off

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wootsat 11 points ago +11 / -0

I understand Ferguson is trying to claim that the model predictions are still accurate, but I find that claim pretty flimsy. He admits himself that there is more spread of the virus than they thought. Well, that completely distorts everything they would have been predicting, making the virus much less deadly. This was a key difference in Oxford epidemiologist Sunetra Gupta's competing model that predicted much less risk.

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wootsat 5 points ago +5 / -0

Apparently the UK only started doing social distancing on March 18th, and only started to some lockdowns in parts of the UK (still not a national lockdown apparently) two days ago.

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